Palivec
10 Oct 2011
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]
Nicely illustrates how out of touch with Polish reality the American Polonia is.
Nicely illustrates how out of touch with Polish reality the American Polonia is.
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]
Upper Silesian from Nysa: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld202k.mp3
But OK, that's just the German dialect of a native German.
East Prussian from Lidzbark Warmiński: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld083.mp3
And West Prussian from Elbląg: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld283k.mp3
I don't believe I've ever met or spoken with a native Silesian speaking German or even their native tongue. Same goes fore Cashubs or Sorbs.
Upper Silesian from Nysa: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld202k.mp3
But OK, that's just the German dialect of a native German.
I once talked with a very old gentleman, oh, I'd guess round about 85, or so, from the former Koenigsberg, East Prussia (now Kaliningrad!). When he spoke German, his accent reminded me immediately of a Pole speaking;
East Prussian from Lidzbark Warmiński: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld083.mp3
And West Prussian from Elbląg: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld283k.mp3
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
Travel / Where would Poles (from Poland and abroad) migrate in case of rapid coming of new Ice age? [27]
Serbia?
They should come to a place full of beaches hot women and booze.
Serbia?
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
News / Tusk wants to privatize PKP Cargo. [38]
And Kaczynski doesn't want investments of Europes biggest economy in 1/3 of Poland. Idiot.
And Kaczynski doesn't want investments of Europes biggest economy in 1/3 of Poland. Idiot.
Palivec
6 Oct 2011
Life / Are Polish people so chaotic and disorganized like Germans say? [89]
Yup. If you travel around Central Europe it looks like this:
Switzerland - Germany - Austria - Hungary/Czechia - Poland
I've been to both countries and Germany definitely looks more organized.
Yup. If you travel around Central Europe it looks like this:
Switzerland - Germany - Austria - Hungary/Czechia - Poland
Palivec
5 Oct 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]
Speaking of sugar... sugar is also very expensive in Poland, that's why Poles flooded supermarkets in Germany and bought so much that the supermarkets began to ration sugar. Apparently a kg costs between 1,25 and 1,70€ in Poland, but only 0,65€ in Germany.
Speaking of sugar... sugar is also very expensive in Poland, that's why Poles flooded supermarkets in Germany and bought so much that the supermarkets began to ration sugar. Apparently a kg costs between 1,25 and 1,70€ in Poland, but only 0,65€ in Germany.
Palivec
5 Oct 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]
He presented his new book this week. According to him Merkel wants Germany to be a superpower that plans to subdue Poland. This imperial Germany wants to get the former German territorries of Poland back. That's why he doesn't welcome investments by German companies in Western Poland. And Merkel was installed by the Stasi (former secret service of Commie Germany).
LOL! :D
He presented his new book this week. According to him Merkel wants Germany to be a superpower that plans to subdue Poland. This imperial Germany wants to get the former German territorries of Poland back. That's why he doesn't welcome investments by German companies in Western Poland. And Merkel was installed by the Stasi (former secret service of Commie Germany).
LOL! :D
Palivec
30 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Such houses are sometimes listed, sometimes not. The situation is absolutely chaotic. And even listed houses often get sold to the first investor. They don't have to present a concept for the building, they just have to bring the money. In many cases these investors destroy these buildings during restoration, and the monument protection service has no means to stop them.
Such houses are sometimes listed, sometimes not. The situation is absolutely chaotic. And even listed houses often get sold to the first investor. They don't have to present a concept for the building, they just have to bring the money. In many cases these investors destroy these buildings during restoration, and the monument protection service has no means to stop them.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
No, but as i said I work on transboundary projects, and one project is to develop contacts in the border triangle GER/PL/CZ. In one study the state of the castles and manors in Upper Lusatia, the eastern part is now part of Poland, was examined. Result: 40% in Poland are in such a bad condition that they cannot be saved, 70% of all are in a bad state, but can be saved. Result in Germany: 10/20. No results for Northern Bohemia though (not part of *this* study), but my feeling is something like 10/30.
Maybe you are too young? This is a nice page to find out:
wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/
Another study compared the state of the rural architecture in this border triangle. They have some very distinctive houses there, a mix of German half-timbered houses and Slavic blockhouses. These houses can be found in all three countries there. In Germany are 6.472 houses, 95% of them are listed. In Czechia are ~12.000, the majority is listed, but the monument protection service didn't know the exact number. In Poland are ~1.000 houses, most of them aren't listed. The monument protection service had no clue about these houses.... to put it mild.
What I want to say: the monument protection service can only be as strong as the will of the society to save the cultural heritage is. And this will differs considerably between people who always lived there and people without roots in the region. The majority of the old rural houses in Silesia aren't listed (don't know the Situation in Inner Poland), and even when they are listed the monument protection service has no power to influence the owners.
are you sure it's exactly Polish culture to blame and not the communism?? - ever heard of the fate of palaces in central Poland?
No, but as i said I work on transboundary projects, and one project is to develop contacts in the border triangle GER/PL/CZ. In one study the state of the castles and manors in Upper Lusatia, the eastern part is now part of Poland, was examined. Result: 40% in Poland are in such a bad condition that they cannot be saved, 70% of all are in a bad state, but can be saved. Result in Germany: 10/20. No results for Northern Bohemia though (not part of *this* study), but my feeling is something like 10/30.
two churches per village - nah - not in the areas i'm familiar with (in towns yes - and yes some protestant churches have fallen into disuse and neglect (and actual ruin) - I know one example)
Maybe you are too young? This is a nice page to find out:
wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/
you don't list half ruins of simple country houses - is it difficult to grasp?
Another study compared the state of the rural architecture in this border triangle. They have some very distinctive houses there, a mix of German half-timbered houses and Slavic blockhouses. These houses can be found in all three countries there. In Germany are 6.472 houses, 95% of them are listed. In Czechia are ~12.000, the majority is listed, but the monument protection service didn't know the exact number. In Poland are ~1.000 houses, most of them aren't listed. The monument protection service had no clue about these houses.... to put it mild.
What I want to say: the monument protection service can only be as strong as the will of the society to save the cultural heritage is. And this will differs considerably between people who always lived there and people without roots in the region. The majority of the old rural houses in Silesia aren't listed (don't know the Situation in Inner Poland), and even when they are listed the monument protection service has no power to influence the owners.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
The answer here, in case the house is listed, is interior thermal insulation.
How many destroyed churches I have seen? I would guess quite a lot, since Silesian villages usually had two and not just one.
Destroyed library? Schaffgotsch library for instance. Removed from Jelenia Gora, some parts in Wroclaw, some in Warsaw.
Castles and palaces not destroyed but neglected.... where is the difference when the castle is a ruin and no one cares? Gone is gone. In Western Silesia 40%.
why do you think Poles never bothered themselves with building stone houses (the technology of brick burning was not the cheapest one and very simple) - wooden houses offer much better heat insulation
The answer here, in case the house is listed, is interior thermal insulation.
destroyed castles, palaces? which castles and palaces - or did you mean neglected? - well you know communists didn't need palaces
How many destroyed churches I have seen? I would guess quite a lot, since Silesian villages usually had two and not just one.
Destroyed library? Schaffgotsch library for instance. Removed from Jelenia Gora, some parts in Wroclaw, some in Warsaw.
Castles and palaces not destroyed but neglected.... where is the difference when the castle is a ruin and no one cares? Gone is gone. In Western Silesia 40%.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
And castles and palaces, parks, cemeteries, churches, entire town centers, libraries...
No, I'm shocked by the general state of the cultural heritage in the former German regions of Poland, which I know pretty well since I work in a agency which develops transboundary projects in several EU countries to promote a closer cooperation between institutions and people. It's simply my job.
And castles and palaces, parks, cemeteries, churches, entire town centers, libraries...
No, I'm shocked by the general state of the cultural heritage in the former German regions of Poland, which I know pretty well since I work in a agency which develops transboundary projects in several EU countries to promote a closer cooperation between institutions and people. It's simply my job.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Did the climate change when Silesia passed to Poland? On the Czech side of the mountains and further west in Germany people have no problems with it... such houses are actually listed buildings there and cannot be rebuild that easily. But well, the monument protection service in Poland is a joke anyway when it comes to cases like this.
living in a stone-masonry house in Poland isn't the thing you would wish for in winter Palivec
Did the climate change when Silesia passed to Poland? On the Czech side of the mountains and further west in Germany people have no problems with it... such houses are actually listed buildings there and cannot be rebuild that easily. But well, the monument protection service in Poland is a joke anyway when it comes to cases like this.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
A village where only 3 of 60 houses survived? I highly doubt it.
No, I just often traveled there job-related (monument protection), and the lack of preserved rural architecture is absolutely shocking.
A village where only 3 of 60 houses survived? I highly doubt it.
No, I just often traveled there job-related (monument protection), and the lack of preserved rural architecture is absolutely shocking.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Replaced stone walls with brick walls? Sounds more like he destroyed it?! (which wouldn't make any difference though, the villages of the Sudete mountains are mostly lost anyway. It's a sad sight today.)
Replaced stone walls with brick walls? Sounds more like he destroyed it?! (which wouldn't make any difference though, the villages of the Sudete mountains are mostly lost anyway. It's a sad sight today.)
Palivec
24 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
This is a completely different matter. Sorry to say this, but you don't understand the character of the HRE. The Habsburgs as Austrian dukes were powerful, the Habsburgs as emperors were not, since the power of the emperor was gradually reduced, while the states became more powerful.
Do you actually know what "elector" means when it comes to the HRE?
They also voted out the most powerful king of the HRE, so...
You can use the books used there...
So you mean Austrian Emperors had no power at all being the most powerfull german state?:)))
This is a completely different matter. Sorry to say this, but you don't understand the character of the HRE. The Habsburgs as Austrian dukes were powerful, the Habsburgs as emperors were not, since the power of the emperor was gradually reduced, while the states became more powerful.
But it could enter via Duchy of Courland, Duchy of Brandenburg, Lithuanian Radziwil Branch who were already electors, and it did several times, back to the books for you.
Do you actually know what "elector" means when it comes to the HRE?
I'd love to see german states vote out an Emperor who had the polish army and the polish coffers behind him.
They also voted out the most powerful king of the HRE, so...
I'm sorry i dont use wiki nor do i use it as a source
You can use the books used there...
Palivec
23 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
Interesting that you can't answer without insults...
The emperors of the 12th century can't be compared with emperors of the 16th century since they lost power with every new election. This "Wahlkapitulation" was even institutionalized in the 15th or 16th century. Looks like I read some books.
Poland couldn't enter the HRE "as an elector" since, even with a Polish emperor, Poland would still have been an foreign aggressor. The election of a foreign candidate wouldn't have led to a personal union of the HRE with the country of the foreign candidate. Emperors moreover could get voted out of power if they acted against the empire.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Army_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
Maybe you simply shouldn't write about history, lol
Barbarossa for example had plenty, there were many who had, dont try to discuss history with me when you havent picked up a book on your life.
Interesting that you can't answer without insults...
The emperors of the 12th century can't be compared with emperors of the 16th century since they lost power with every new election. This "Wahlkapitulation" was even institutionalized in the 15th or 16th century. Looks like I read some books.
IF Poland entered the HRE as an elector there wouldnt be Prussia to speak off, expading westwards meant eventuall annexation of Brandenburg and Teutonic States.
Poland couldn't enter the HRE "as an elector" since, even with a Polish emperor, Poland would still have been an foreign aggressor. The election of a foreign candidate wouldn't have led to a personal union of the HRE with the country of the foreign candidate. Emperors moreover could get voted out of power if they acted against the empire.
The grand total mobilisation capacity of HRE was around 120.000 men so you're inflating it, also no the HRE did not have an "imperial army" the imperial army was the army of the state from which the emperor hailed which is why it was for a long time Austria, the most powerfull of the german states.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Army_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
Maybe you simply shouldn't write about history, lol
Palivec
23 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
The emperor of the HRE had no real power. He couldn't stop a German state like Prussia from attacking a third country like Poland. And Poland back then was attacked by German states (the order wasn't even part of the HRE), not the HRE itself. So getting a puppet on the throne of the HRE would have made no difference anyway. On the other hand, when one state of the HRE was attacked by an outside force the state and HRE was defended by the Imperial army (30.000-120.000 men) + the army of the state.
That was completely unneccesary, yes Poland should have entered the HRE around 1520-50 and would totally dominate it but marrying into it was unnecesary.
Between 1450 and 1600 Poland has the kind of military, political and financial leverage that it could enter the HRE or simply support an elector and have its own way, that Poland did not dominate Germany at this time is a grave error that cost us our prosperity for the next 300 years.
Between 1450 and 1600 Poland has the kind of military, political and financial leverage that it could enter the HRE or simply support an elector and have its own way, that Poland did not dominate Germany at this time is a grave error that cost us our prosperity for the next 300 years.
The emperor of the HRE had no real power. He couldn't stop a German state like Prussia from attacking a third country like Poland. And Poland back then was attacked by German states (the order wasn't even part of the HRE), not the HRE itself. So getting a puppet on the throne of the HRE would have made no difference anyway. On the other hand, when one state of the HRE was attacked by an outside force the state and HRE was defended by the Imperial army (30.000-120.000 men) + the army of the state.
Palivec
21 Sep 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]
Wikipedia has a nice article about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
Wikipedia has a nice article about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
Palivec
20 Sep 2011
News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]
Currently the EU is divided into three blocks. The founding members, the Mediterranean and the former Commie countries. The founding members, which interestingly are the successor states of the Frankish empire of Charlemagne, share the same view on matters such as integration, economy, fiscal policy and so on. The Mediterranean countries are for more integration too, but their economic and fiscal traditions are different. The former Commie countries, especially Poland and the former countries of Austria-Hungary, share the economic and fiscal policies of the founding members, but aren't ready for more integration.
Currently the EU is divided into three blocks. The founding members, the Mediterranean and the former Commie countries. The founding members, which interestingly are the successor states of the Frankish empire of Charlemagne, share the same view on matters such as integration, economy, fiscal policy and so on. The Mediterranean countries are for more integration too, but their economic and fiscal traditions are different. The former Commie countries, especially Poland and the former countries of Austria-Hungary, share the economic and fiscal policies of the founding members, but aren't ready for more integration.
Palivec
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]
Of course not. They will stay in the UK, and the next generation will be fully integrated and hardly Polish anymore. Poles assimilate very fast... just ask the Germans.
So are the Poles returning home???don't think so.
Of course not. They will stay in the UK, and the next generation will be fully integrated and hardly Polish anymore. Poles assimilate very fast... just ask the Germans.
Palivec
19 Sep 2011
Food / Polish Pizza !! The best in the world? [329]
And this is a pizza from Napoli:
Pizza is a simple dish made from fresh, good ingredients. Fresh tomatoes and herbs, good olive oil, buffalo mozzarella, baken in a brick oven.
This is a Chicago-thin-crust-style pizza made in America by one of Polish descent from a recipe based on one used at an Italian pizzeria.
And this is a pizza from Napoli:
Pizza is a simple dish made from fresh, good ingredients. Fresh tomatoes and herbs, good olive oil, buffalo mozzarella, baken in a brick oven.
Palivec
17 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
Based on history... lol. Ever heard of the Livonian Crusade? Terra Mariana? The reason for the establishment of the Livonian Brothers of the Sword?
Based on history... lol. Ever heard of the Livonian Crusade? Terra Mariana? The reason for the establishment of the Livonian Brothers of the Sword?
Palivec
17 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
Blablabla. The Teutonic Order and the Livonian Order converted old Prussians, Latvians and Estonians by force. Latvians and Estonians still exist. These are facts, and your rant can't change that.
Stop being such a faggot, the Teutonic Order depopulated entire regions, i don't care about the paper what they historically did was genociding the f*ck out of Lithuanians.
No its not pure speculation because both the Teutonic Order and Muscovites historically did murder everything that walked on two legs, only the involvement of Poland stopped said invading forces from depopulating all of Lithuania.
No its not pure speculation because both the Teutonic Order and Muscovites historically did murder everything that walked on two legs, only the involvement of Poland stopped said invading forces from depopulating all of Lithuania.
Blablabla. The Teutonic Order and the Livonian Order converted old Prussians, Latvians and Estonians by force. Latvians and Estonians still exist. These are facts, and your rant can't change that.
Palivec
17 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
The Teutonic Order didn't have the mandate to annihilate Lithunia but to convert pagans to Christians. What wiped out old Prussians saved Latvians and Estonians. It's therefore pure speculation to speak of "complete and utter destruction".
The Teutonic Order didn't have the mandate to annihilate Lithunia but to convert pagans to Christians. What wiped out old Prussians saved Latvians and Estonians. It's therefore pure speculation to speak of "complete and utter destruction".
Palivec
17 Sep 2011
Palivec
16 Sep 2011
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]
And this:
this:
Poland owes to Germany Auschwitz camp one of the most popular attractions visited every year by hundreds of thousands tourists bringing hard currency.
And this:
this:
Palivec
16 Sep 2011
Life / My impressions on Poland I: The People, Politics, The Countryside and Infrastructure [39]
In Europe it's common to learn a few sentences of the local language. Makes people smile and incredibly helpful. Going to a foreign country and expecting the people to speak English is simply arrogant.
Ever been to Wałbrzych?
Most of the Poles don't even understand English - a necessity in the modern world.
In Europe it's common to learn a few sentences of the local language. Makes people smile and incredibly helpful. Going to a foreign country and expecting the people to speak English is simply arrogant.
lols, another dumb fekker mistaking allotment sheds for houses..............
Ever been to Wałbrzych?
Palivec
16 Sep 2011
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]
Poles owe nothing to Germans, that's for sure. Better ask how Poland was influenced by Germany. How about:
- German town law
The medieval settlement structure in Poland was imported from Germany. Even today many municipal structures are based on it.
- Sachsenspiegel
This legal code was used in many parts of medieval Poland
- modern book printing
Obviously most printers who introduced book printing to Poland were Germans
- Brick Gothic
From Luebeck via the Hanseatic League to Poland
Poles owe nothing to Germans, that's for sure. Better ask how Poland was influenced by Germany. How about:
- German town law
The medieval settlement structure in Poland was imported from Germany. Even today many municipal structures are based on it.
- Sachsenspiegel
This legal code was used in many parts of medieval Poland
- modern book printing
Obviously most printers who introduced book printing to Poland were Germans
- Brick Gothic
From Luebeck via the Hanseatic League to Poland
Palivec
15 Sep 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]
I'm not Bratwurst. I'm not even German. But contrary to most Americans here I actually know Poland. Compare the twin cities of Goerlitz/Zgorzelec or Cieszyn/Těšín and you know what I mean.
Goerlitz: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1326561
vs.
Zgorzelec: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1426038
I'm not Bratwurst. I'm not even German. But contrary to most Americans here I actually know Poland. Compare the twin cities of Goerlitz/Zgorzelec or Cieszyn/Těšín and you know what I mean.
Goerlitz: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1326561
vs.
Zgorzelec: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1426038