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Joined: 18 Mar 2011 / Male ♂
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Ant63   
10 Sep 2013
Law / Being forced to Maintenance Payments to alcoholic father in Poland? [14]

My point would be that it is applied under UK law and under UK law that debt simply does not exist.

The point of it is to make it possible to enforce in another country. In the UK it would become enforceable but they can't take what you haven't got and you are not getting sent to prison because you can't pay. To enforce it I believe they have to go through the County Court system and then bailiffs can be used to enforce. I would guess all you have to do is offer what you can afford to the court and nothing will happen.
Ant63   
10 Sep 2013
Law / Being forced to Maintenance Payments to alcoholic father in Poland? [14]

however, I'm less than sure that they could actually enforce that payment if you're living and working in the UK

European Payment Order. Effective throughout Europe. UK and Norway, I believe, had certain parts of the agreement set aside. For people subjected to an EPO in the UK have it applied under UK Law. This means they can't take more than you can afford.
Ant63   
8 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women are angel [30]

If that's your chat up line you are likely to hit the mark in the local psychiatric institution. Elsewhere I wouldn't bother.
Ant63   
8 Sep 2013
News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

Polish drivers are willing to go out in their truck for 4-6 weeks at a time

Delph ask yourself what kind of life that is for anybody. Don't forget they are also doing it for a lower price than their British counterparts. What about a right to a family life?
Ant63   
7 Sep 2013
News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]

What might cause a problem is if too many people leave rural areas and fewer available to do the agricultural work -- same problem happened in the UK.

Having spent most of my life in rural communities, I would say this statement is wide of the mark. At the age of 12 I was milking cows and generally helping out on the farms. Nearly 40 years ago. Over the next 10 years things changed dramatically. Hedges were removed to make fields bigger and bigger tractors, harvesters and a general improvement in the efficiency of machinery reduced the need for labour on farms except when seasonal harvests required. At the same time the middle class began their drift from the big cities in search of a better environment to bring up their children forcing up house prices. Big houses remained cheap in the early eighties in rural England but prohibitively expensive to run.

Now very few people work in farming daily. There isn't the work except seasonally and the supermarkets have driven prices at source so low that seasonal work is not financially viable unless you live in multi occupancy. Drive through Boston in Lincolnshire @ 5am to see the effect low prices and low wages have had. It must be tough in Poland, Lithuanian etc. if your desperate enough to stand out in all weathers in the vain hope your going to get chosen to work that day.

Very few Poles are doing alright and the majority is either full of debts or in big sh... or both.

From what I hear from my partners friends in Poland, I believe you are correct. 82 hrs a week for 1200zlt/month and 5 mouths to feed. Ouch! Heard this last week. A couple of weeks ago someone we know borrowed 40,000zlt to pay off his mothers finance debts on 2000zlt a month income. Long time paying that one. Probably would have got less time for insuring her and throwing her off the balcony if he got caught. I find it amazing people on here refuse to accept there is abject poverty in Poland. I would suggest some broaden there social circles or open their eyes. It also seems the root of this evil is unscrupulous employers that pay low wages to avoid taxes and compensate with cash. It appears to happen everywhere. I do wonder how bigger businesses get away with this, but I guess as they are corrupt, then someone above is also corrupt.

Wrocław is full of brats sorry I mean children, almost everywhere.

When people can't afford to go out, they turn to other activities. Don't I just know it. Number 3 in January.

Hundreds of schools closing and 8-10,000 teaching jobs going says it all. It's far more financially attractive having a baby in the UK if your Polish. £500 bonus just for starters so the Polish mums tell us.
Ant63   
30 Aug 2013
Life / Bad Polish mothers [34]

This doesn't just happen in Poland.

You are kidding aren't you!!

It is not specifically mothers. Its parents and criminals.

Note the recorded figure for baby sales was 1772 for 2010 and that was only the recorded ones. The real figure may well have been at least double that.

All that is required is a change in the law but that may upset a certain institution that profits from this.
Ant63   
29 Aug 2013
Life / Bad Polish mothers [34]

s there a link where I can read the research or view those stories...quite interesting !!!!

Google Poland people trafficking
Google Poland children for sale
Google Poland Domestic violence

Do remember most posters on here are never touched personally by the grim realities so refuse to accept facts.
Ant63   
29 Aug 2013
Love / Are Polish mothers-in-law monsters? [91]

but has any non-Pole had any interesting contacts (or run-ins) with their Polish mothers-in-law, the chronic but of many Polish jokes.*

In my experience the English one was the quiet assassin. Devious to the core. The Polish one prefers the direct approach. Shouting and throwing things. Bloody scary. The father in law is a brave and tolerant man. Just hoping the other half got his genes.
Ant63   
28 Aug 2013
Life / Bad Polish mothers [34]

The teacher who first raised the problem should have contacted her union as well

I suggest you read the detail. Social services were contacted and the parents did everything in their powers to avoid them.

My (Polish!) mother gave me up for adoption.

Try and look at it positively. Do what you need to do and live YOUR life.

Unfortunately mothers (and fathers) killing their kids are of all nationalities.

Its true but Poland has inherent problems with its laws that the government seem to be doing little or nothing about. For example you can sell children in Poland. Poland is considered a Tier 1 people trafficking country by the US. Sales of children are only partially documented. The figures are all out there for people to see.

Where the babes lost in the woods or were they sold??
Ant63   
25 Aug 2013
Travel / What's worth seeing in Poznań? [17]

6) Slow walk to Ostrów Tumski to see the Cathedral, stopping at Plac Wielkopolski to buy some fruit at the open market.

The organ pipes are very attractive also

I like the botanical gardens. A bit tired but worth a visit.

The Old Zoo is interesting if only to see the old Lion cages and how things used to be. We always spend time here as my partner grew just round the corner

There are many attractive old buildings and some still with wounds inflicted during the war.
Ant63   
19 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

Of course, we are all entitled to our opinions, have our likes and dislikes.

And those opinions should be kept to oneself. Thrusting individual beliefs on others shouldn't be tolerated.
Ant63   
19 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

really, Harry? Is that what Catholics do?

They did this

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html

Spains stolen babies
Ant63   
16 Aug 2013
Law / Non-Polish Fathers rights for child in Poland [19]

I know a case when a 5 yo was asked by the judge

Yes its a step up but only moved it from the courtroom to the psychologists.

We have a pretty good system in the UK. An organisation called Cafcass who are entirely independent of the courts; their duty to report their findings to the court, Their first point of call is school, and their enquiries extend to family friends and clubs that the children may be involved in as well as spending time with the kids alone. That way they get a truthful picture of whats going on in a childs mind. Possibly more of an idea than the childs primary carer. Often kids say only the things they think you want to hear.
Ant63   
16 Aug 2013
Law / Non-Polish Fathers rights for child in Poland [19]

thats not what I've heard

You heard wrong.

Basically its the kids that lose out in a Polish court. I'm not sure how high the bar is set for parental abuse in Poland, but it's far higher than we are prepared to accept in the UK. The most dangerous person involved in this, is the court psychologist, who will profess to know the intimate details of every aspect of a couples marriage and a child's feelings, all within a 4hr meeting. Its astounding how they come to their immaculate conclusions when the husband or wife and the children are faced with their abuser. They wholly believe what they write in return to the court, and the judge will defend them mercilessly should you question their perspective of reality or their credibility. Most likely the judge will have made his/her decision before anyone set foot in court and the questions to the psychologist will be tailored to increase the standing of his or her choice of winner. You will never know what the questions were though. That is private. What should be noted is it is the judge whom selects the psychologist and his or her court that pays him. A very Polish affair based on greasing palms. It stinks.

A recent decision I am familiar with, the father got the kids and the wife had to pay 2000zlt/month. The kids had to be delivered to the wife for Wednesday and Thursday nights and alternate weekends. Poor kids will never know where home is. The kids lost out and most likely their understanding of relationships will be damaged for ever more.

No wonder then that your wife and her solicitor will not let you be left alone with your daughter ...

If you knew how the Polish Courts operate you would know why that inappropriate remark was made. The guy is in a desperately difficult position. What this guy wants is contact with his child and assuming he is OK, then he should get unmolested contact in Poland. Unfortunately for him he is a foreigner in a prejudiced country.

I give you an example. An English born child was not returned to the UK by the Polish courts because it could not speak English. The child was just over 1 years old. It couldn't speak.
Ant63   
15 Aug 2013
Law / Non-Polish Fathers rights for child in Poland [19]

Couldn't you make this sentence any less comprehensible?

Its comprehensible if you know what is being discussed!!

national disgrace

An International Disgrace is a better description

I expect posts that are understandable in that language

Learn about what he is talking about and then you would understand. If you don't know what the Hague convention for abducted children is look it up. You never know, you might need it one day. 1,000's have.
Ant63   
10 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

I was an atheist for sixteen years. I was a superior atheist, too.

So what changed your mind? I'm interested.

You show me an atheist

You are a superior Christian also it appears.
Ant63   
10 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

Nobody is born believing in God. My feeling is religion plays on our subconscious fears of the unknown. The heaven and hell conundrum.

It's a choice, which is frankly imposed on most of us, and some choose to release themselves from its shackles when capable of making an informed decision for themselves.

It's not universally true that Catholic countries are immune - lots of nonbelievers in France - but it looks like a decent rule of thumb.

So what happened to Spain?

Going back to your suggestion I am American. I'm not. I'm English with a Polish partner. At least I thought I was; but coincidently I discovered a fact which is a little amusing to me. I was adopted at a few months, and a few days ago discovered that it is likely my father was half Polish and the son of a pilot in the 303 squadron. Bloody ironic. Will find out for definite in a couple of weeks.
Ant63   
10 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

I fully expect Catholics to be around in a 100 years.

Touched a raw nerve did we.

I think you might find the RCC is going to have to change dramatically to exist in a 100 years time. Populations are no longer repressed in the way they were. Poland no longer requires the RCC to fight on its behalf against its atheist masters. That time has passed.

Here is an article that demonstrates my point.
humanityinaction.org/knowledgebase/159-airing-the-dirty-laundry-exploring-the-challenges-of-domestic-violence-in-poland

your bizarro worldview

Mine is firmly based in the 21st century. Your moral compass obviously is not.
Ant63   
10 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

All society owes the Church a great deal: spiritual depth, a moral compass, charitable and educational servcie to the nation

You are kidding?

An organisation that tells women they should be more obedient after they have been abused domestically to prevent further beatings. Where is the moral compass in that????
Ant63   
6 Aug 2013
Law / I have recently been scammed in Poland. My company accounts frozen. [58]

Funny.

It's not funny Pawian. It's a disingenuous way of dealing with it. The law in this case is divisive and unbalanced and assists the cheaters. When such large sums of money are involved, the burden of proof that the documents were served correctly should be on the claimant.
Ant63   
2 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Daniel Pelka murder: Polish mother and stepfather face life sentences [96]

But you raised the issue of cultural difference.

I raised the cultural difference, not as an attack on anyone, but because I know from our children's school how much weight cultural differences are held within UK schools, how it gets repeated back parrot fashion, and should you dare question why on earth they remove a child from a class to learn English with a Polish teacher that can't speak English anywhere near as well as the child in question, they get worried and say we have to respect her Polish culture. So contrary to the fight you want to pick, I'm not suggesting that culture had something to do with it, but the ingrained fear teachers have of offending a pupils culture which is possibly why nothing or little was done.

I repeat the following

Poland
3000 missing children a year
1700 babies sold
Tier 1 country for child trafficking.

Pot Kettle Black
Ant63   
2 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Daniel Pelka murder: Polish mother and stepfather face life sentences [96]

Yes, and some Polish migrants are welcomed in their new communities while others are met with hostility or indifference.

TBH it sounds like they arrived hostile to the neighbourhood from the media reports

Yes, but the evidence used in the trial had nothing to do with cultural differences.

The trial was to determine guilt not the failure of the school or social services. Wait for the public enquiry.
Ant63   
2 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Daniel Pelka murder: Polish mother and stepfather face life sentences [96]

The nationality of the parents is irrelevant - the law requires makes the state responsible for the welfare of all children physically present in the UK, regardless of citizenship issues.

From 3 years of bouncing back and forth between Polish and UK courts I know it is not that simple but you are right in what you stated.
Ant63   
2 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Daniel Pelka murder: Polish mother and stepfather face life sentences [96]

We need the Norwegian approach - far greater funding for social services, stronger child protection and no messing around.

Agreed Jon. Protect first and be damned afterwards which is how the English court system does work if one of the parents is well meaning. It takes around an hour to get a prohibitive steps order and temporary residence order if you know what to do and which court to go to. Once that's in place you can then fight it out in court away from the child.
Ant63   
2 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Daniel Pelka murder: Polish mother and stepfather face life sentences [96]

The true measure of civility in any society is how well it looks after its most vulnerable.

Read above. Its self explanatory. Chalk and cheese I would say.

At what point does the state step in and limit the parents authority? It is certainly a tricky one. The child is Polish, I suspect he held a Polish passport and I suspect and the parents had no affiliation with UK other than being here. There are all sorts of legal implications and then you have cultural differences. What is acceptable in Poland may or may not be acceptable in the UK, but schools and government departments are warned repeatedly about discriminating against culture. I experience this in school at any meeting with teachers when they blast on about how they support Polish culture. I doubt they really know what it even is. I don't and I've been with Polish people since 2005.

I have no doubt intervention would have saved the child and in that respect the child was desperately let down. The result of the public enquiry will bring to light the failings, and who is, and why they are to blame for the lack of intervention.

A couple of years too long and we will know.