News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]

That's a good one coming from you!! Joke of the day!!

Another one who is completely clueless trying to comment about something he knows nothing about.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


Warszawski ... would you please stop talking about something you don't know anything about?! Please!!!!

It wasn't a hit!!

Don't believe me?! In the Top 40, more than TWO years ago, it was in the charts for 20 days, with a highest position of number28 on 09/02/2008.

Please ... you have been claiming all kinds of stuff, which are simply not true.

And why? Cause you don't know enough about the Netherlands. As I have been saying again and again: the reason why I don't comment about Polish society is because I don't know enough about it; I don't live there (yet) so it is wise for me to shut up and just listen.

I am sorry, warszawski, but you should do the same! You don't live here, you claim all kinds of stuff which for me are easily refutable and even for you if you had cared to check google for "top 40 bussie vol met Polen".

Now stop commenting on something you don't know enough about. Again ... it doesn't become you.


And what you conveniently forget to mention is that his wife is the other shareholder. And his wife is Polish. Want to see another office of OTTO workforce? Have a look in Wroclaw along the A4.

In other words ... a Polish woman exploiting her OWN country men and women.

Now ... warszawski ... stop being economical with the truth!!!

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]

Fvck you, IS ... you are lying as usual.


And what do you claim this means? Try to write some legible English for a change.


And this? Still no explanation, nutthead.

Travel / Driving to Poland from England - any tips? [264]


Think about the following:

From Huddersfield to Wroclaw is about 1.650km (just over 1.000 miles) and it will take you about 18 hours or so. Calculate the fuel ... about 1l/12km let's say. So that is about 280l of fuel or about 450 euro (that's only the travel to and from Wroclaw).

Now ... from Huddersfield to Doncaster is about 55km. Return tickets for you, your wife and your kids from Doncaster directly to Wroclaw is about 260 euros and takes 2 hours and 10 minutes (see wizzair.com). And they fly three times a week. Book at least 6 weeks in advance.

Now consider renting a car in Wroclaw (for example express.pl). A decent car sets you back 25 euros a day, and about 15 euros to have it delivered at the airport and another 15 to have it picked back up at the airport.

Do the maths. And look at the time and effort you safe. And this time and effort is worth some extra bob as well, isn't it - your time is also money. I hope you see what I mean ... ;).

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


Read sunshine, read ... I know it is difficult for you. I said before that they don't particularly target Poles at the moment but Bulgarians and Rumanians, who are still restricted from coming over to work in the Netherlands.


You obviously don't know what you are talking about :D. The pot calling the kettle black?! A farmer sells his milk to a dairy factory (let's just say that the milk is sold to be drunk and not to make cheese, because then the price on the worldmarket comes into view). The dairy factory sells it to the supermarket and that's it. There is no such thing as middlemen practices.

Please guys, if there is something about another country you don't know the details about, just ask. And I or other people here will be happy to give you the answer. There is nothing wrong with not knowing anything about a subject ... there really isn't. But if you don't know anything about a country, or, like in this case, about how the "milk market" in a certain country works, just shut up, will you?!.

I will never say anything about Polish society, politics or whatever. Or Polish meat quality control. Or Poland's use of antibiotics in growing animals. Why? Cause I don't know anything about it, so it is wise for me to keep quiet. If I have a question, I will first ask my wife and if she doesn't know the answer I will look for information elsewhere, maybe even here.

Personal comments removed.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


Sorry, Seanus ... but as you know there is a difference between the parliament and a lone minister in government.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


It has nothing to do with "some quarters". They are a minority of cases. And ... please don't forget that there are a lot of Polish employment agencies over here that are NOT registered (and will therefore be closed down not before long) which are exploiting there OWN.


I have to agree with you, to be honest. The longer a migrant worker is in a certain country and has therefore also paid fees and contributions to social security (!!) the more "right" that person has to "enjoy" the social security system.


At the moment we are not even talking about the Poles anymore, but about Rumanians and Bulgarians who come here to work illegaly. They don't have the same rights as Poles (yet).

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]



Of hundreds and hundreds of cases where there is nothing wrong, you have to single out a couple. I wonder why so many Poles come here to work ... it must be absolutely horrific :D:D.

So ... to follow your own way of reasoning ...

I've noticed that some Poles on this forum are morons, should I therefore conclude that ALL Poles are morons?

I've noticed that some Poles murder eachother on Dutch camp sites. Should I therefore conclude that ALL Poles murder eachother on camp sites?

Etc ...

Warszawski ... you have been digging your own grave and it gets deeper and deeper ... :D. I sugest you stop before you fall in :D.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


No ... not true.


Again ... not true:
statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/publication/?DM=SLNL&PA=71737NED&D1=0&D2=3-4,10-11,13,17-18,21-22,26-28,32&D3=4,9,14,19,24,29,l&HDR=T,G2&STB=G1&CHARTTYPE=1&VW=T

It is actually going down. Care to show me Polish figures ... :D?

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]

So now you are changing the subject ... :D.

Long term sickness: first year 100%, then 70%.

If you are still ill after 2 years, then you are entitled to welfare for the longterm sick.

No ... we don't have a problem with longterm sick people. And that even although we don't have to produce a note from the doctor when we are ill. Just call your employer before 0930 and tell him that you are ill. In most cases your employer will wish you a speedy recovery and leave it at that. Officially a doctor will visit you at home, but it never ever happened to me.

Only in a very few cases do we have problems with fake illness and that is mainly the day after a football final during EC's or WC's. Especially when we played late or when the championships are in some far away place. So in 2012 we won't have any problems, but in Brazil, be sure that quite a lot of people are "ill" next morning.


Didn't know we had a problem with Russians in NL ... :S

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


So obviously you only know 40%

It has NEVER EVER been 90% ... .

Again ... don't talk about things you know nothing about. It doesn't become you!!

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]

These are Dutch companies, warszawski. Dutch multinationals.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


Not true. It is 70%.

Please ... warszawski ... I never talk about things happening in PL cause I don't know enough about it. Please stop talking about things you know nothing about.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


Really ... so no Shell, BP, Unilever (Hellman, Axe, Dove, Knorr, Lipton, Cif, Rexona, Bertolli), Philips, Saab, Randstad, Heineken, Grolsch, Air France KLM, computer chips (ASML), TNT, or anything DSM makes??!! :D:D:D.

Think before you speak, warszawski ... ;)


And that is what I AM talking about.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


I'm in ... ;)


Wrong, warszawski ... it's the other way round. German, Belgian and Dutch farmers are in a squeeze because of the flooding of milk by farmers from across the former Iron Curtain.

News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]


I'm sorry, but I can't see anything wrong with that.


As I wrote earlier on PF, I've found a new job in Poland. I will start on June 1st. You know what? I have already been accused by someone of stealing jobs from Polish people ... and I haven't even started yet :D. These comments are typical for simple minded people. There is the possibility of finding a job abroad, and there are plenty of jobs out there, even for a 44-yr old ex-officer who has never done anything else than being in the army. And the simple-minds will ALWAYS accuse a foreigner of stealing jobs from them (mostly while they are sitting on their arses doing nothing).


We are in the EU ... Poland as well ... like it or not. Open markets. If you don't like it, next time when you go to the polls, find yourself a party that wants to quit the EU and vote for them. But I guess that'll be a hell of a problem ... ;)

Life / $3,000-$4,000 a month - would we have enough money to live in Poland? [273]

I'm very sorry for your (wife's) loss. Good luck and a lot of strength in the days, weeks, months ahead.

Take care of yourself and try to give your wife as much support as she needs.

News / "Poland is flourishing" [62]


The only reason why PL grew was because of the zillions of euros they got in subsidies. Fortunately NL and UK are against raising the EU-budget and I hope they will stick to it. Let's see whether PL is able to keep growing after the money from the EU dries up.

News / Will many Poles migrate to Germany in May 2011 (after opening labor market)? [157]


See ... the guy who calls himself German, obviously doesn't know "his" country's history. Or the old man forgot. The first "Gastarbeiter" were Italians from 1956 onwards, after the first "Anwerbeabkommen" (or recruitment agreement) between the then Bundesrepublik Deutschland and Italy of December 20th 1955.

This one was followed by similar agreements with Spain and Greece (1960), Turkey (1962), Marocco (1963), Portugal (1964, the millionth "Gastarbeiter", Armando Rodrigues de Sá, a carpenter, came from there and was congratulated on the Cologne-Deutz railway station and was given a bunch of flowers, a diploma and a Zundapp moped), Tunisia (1965) and Yugoslavia (1968).

In 1973, after 4 million foreign workers had already settled in Germany there was actually a stop in recruitment because of the oil crisis.

Ah well ... I guess we are used to his factual inaccuracies.

Life / Price of cigarettes in Poland? [192]


For the soft packet

PLN 11,80 for the hard box ... ;)

News / British man accused of molesting teenagers in Poland [74]

I know ... but there was this geezer who claimed that he was not allowed to take up the matter with his Dutch colleagues. I found it strange when I saw it at the time, but I can't imagine the guy just says such things only to cover his six.

News / British man accused of molesting teenagers in Poland [74]

Harry, wouldn't you agree that it would be better to always have 2 people in charge of a group. Wouldn't that make it less likely for someone to even try something?

And wouldn't you agree that it is incredibly difficult to vet foreigners anyhow? As you've probably heard or read, we have this case of a Latvian national who has confessed to abusing more than 80 children (bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11981734). Before he came to the Netherlands, he worked in Germany where he was convicted of possessing child pûrnography. Yet there was no contact between the German and Dutch police. Maybe, if the Dutch police had known, all this could have been prevented.

The German police claim that they are not allowed to pass on information to other police forces (I don't know whether this is true or not).

Travel / Best Places to eat in Wroclaw [24]

Piwnice Świdnickie - Rynek - Ratusz 1

Since the missus was away, I decided to get myself a meal in the city. Piwnice Świdnickie has this "French" part of the restaurant. You go down the stairs and then turn left.

I asked whether I could pay by debet or credit card, but the waitress told me that the restaurant was new and therefore didn't have a terminal yet. So if you wanna go there, take enough cash.

I ordered a duck salad for a starter but got a prawn salad. How the waitress could have misheard me is a little beyond me. Also in French there is a big difference between duck (canard) and prawns (crevettes). But anyway, I didn't send it back. Prawns were rather chewy, so not a good choice.

For main dish I ordered a steak with pate de foie gras in a red port reduction, veggies, and some kind of potato rosti. The steak was cooked okay, although the cut was a little disappointing (lots of sinew). Veggies were rather basic and not much more than two teaspoons full. The rosti and the veggies were completely smothered in butter; not very pleasant to eat. The Cotes du Rhone was nothing special. Including a double espresso I had to part with PLN 130.

I've had much better food for that price, even on Rynek.

Definitely not recommended.

UK, Ireland / Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state [129]


So since the Dutch gave the Russians all their nautical knowledge in the time of Peter The Great, we can cheat them as well (not that the Russians have such a great welfare system, but anyway). Come on ... rozumiemnic ... I do hope you are just joking cause otherwise you are making a complete nuthead of yourself.

And people defrauding the system withhold those who are really in need of the money they are entitled to. So your contention is not only ridiculous, but also short-sighted.

Well ... you guys can complain all you want, but the time that people from Central and Eastern Europe can defraud the Dutch system are nearly over. Three months out of a job and it is back to your own country, EU-citizen or not.. Hope a lot of people read it and heed the warning. And by the way ... in the Netherlands unfortunately it is NOT a drop in the ocean ... that's why the government decided to pass a law. And I am all for it.

UK, Ireland / Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state [129]

I'm sorry ... I see it quite differently.

What we did then has nothing to do with what is happening now.

Post-colonial hangover ... yeah right!

And by the way ... the Polish motorways are built by cheap immigrant labour as well ... the Chinese.

If people abuse the English, Dutch, German welfare system or the welfare system of whatever country, they should be expelled. And that is exactly what the Netherlands will be doing as soon as this law is passed. No job for over three months and then it is bye bye, EU-citizen or not.

I for one applaud it.

UK, Ireland / Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state [129]

Come on, z_darius ... what on earth has colonialism some 300 years ago to do with today?

Fact of the matter is that people from Central and Eastern Europe come to the west, work a couple of months and then go on and abuse the welfare system.

You'd hate it when people would abuse the welfare system of your country (if it has any) and so do we. Nowadays even more, since we all are facing the consequences of the economic crisis. The time of free handouts is over.

UK, Ireland / Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state [129]

Unfortunately not only in the UK but in the Netherlands too. That's why the government wants to change the rules and only give benefits to those who speak the Dutch language. And if you don't have a job after three months, you are required to leave the country. Fair enough, I think.

News / Polish people mocked and humiliated in Season 7 of House MD [60]

Merged thread on title :P

1) People from Barcelona are mocked and humiliated as far back as the seventies.
...
Stop whining - part 1

2) The elderly with a hearing aid are mocked and humiliated in Fawlty Towers back in the seventies
...
Stop whining - part 2

3) The Germans are mocked and humiliated in Fawlty Towers back in the seventies
...
Stop whining - part 3

4) Experienced nursing staff is mocked and humiliated in Fawlty Towers

youtube.com/watch?v=lj3ZnzK1Ax0

Stop whining - part 4

5) Gays are mocked and humiliated in Are You Being Served

youtube.com/watch?v=uOmS3sb9oxE
youtube.com/watch?v=CLUQ2TQUZbI

Stop whining - part 5

6) Elderly staff in a clothing store are mocked and humiliated in Are You Being Served

youtube.com/watch?v=eC8cCVtyN3A

Stop whining - part 6

Shall I go on ... ?!

My God ... some people have such sensitive souls ... .

There we go again ... about someone's feeling humiliated by a TV-show.

Get a frickin' life!!

UK, Ireland / Are you Poles proud of your country? Then why do you keep coming to Britain? [100]

Hey Advice, do you think we are all too daft to use the internet?!

Try Google and typ in "election results BNP". Guess what ... you get a lot of articles about ...

Yes, you've guessed right ... the election results of the BNP. Frickin' amazin', innit?!

And ... guess what ... ?! On the Election 2010 website of the Beeb, it says ...


So you're claim that


is false!

Ohh ... yes ... you can find it here.

My God, I guess you are pretty much the only one ever on PF whose brain has filed for divorce. Now crawl back under your stone. And if you wanna post something moronic again, have the courtesy and get registered on this site, yeah?

Now shooh ... .

News / What are Poland's optimal both real and virtual neighbors? [81]


I always wonder why mainstream media don't write about it ... :D


We are not talking about this one, are we ... ?