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British man accused of molesting teenagers in Poland


delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Apr 2011 #1
So - just as Harry has been predicting on this forum, Poland's shocking inability to vet foreigners in charge of children has produced victims -

Prosecutors are investigating complaints that a British man has been abusing girls as young as 13 or 14 years of age at a sports facility in Krakow, southern Poland.

The TOK FM radio station is reporting that the suspect is currently being detained by police.

thenews/national/artykul153717_brit-accused-of-paedophilia-at-krakow-sports-facility.html

I'm surprised it's taken so long for this to happen.
poland_
19 Apr 2011 #2
As I previously mentioned in the Bring back Harry thread, he is a good contributor to PF and more often than not, he is on the money when it comes to Polish current reality.
chichimera 1 | 186
19 Apr 2011 #3
Poland's shocking inability to vet foreigners in charge of children has produced victims

When a Pole eats a swan in the UK it's because Poles are wild and disrespectful
When a Pole rapes a woman in the UK it's because Poles are wild and disrespectful criminals

When a Brit molests a child in Poland it's because of... "Poland's shocking inability"
ukpolska
19 Apr 2011 #4
The guy should have his balls torn off and so should the people who employed him!!!

Not too sure of your motives here, except I find them rather pathetic compared to the poor child that was abused.

sadattempt#
ShortHairThug - | 1,101
19 Apr 2011 #5
When a Brit molests a child in Poland it's because of... "Poland's shocking inability"

That’s their favorite tactic, divide and conquer. Those Brits wannabes, but we all know their game and who they are.
ukpolska
19 Apr 2011 #6
I cannot believe how pathetic your egos are here.
Children were abused here, or do you not care about that and only focus on your own masterbatery egos?

So sad!!!!
ShortHairThug - | 1,101
19 Apr 2011 #7
Goes without saying, seems to me the OP have already made a fool of himself by making this post, don't you think? Now he's jerking off in a dark corner, best of all he's British isn't he?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149
19 Apr 2011 #9
Poland's shocking inability

Isn't It all Kaczyński's fault ?

Children were abused here, or do you not care about that and only focus on your own masterbatery egos?

Unfortunately many children are abused daily, in Poland, UK and elsewhere.
Crow 155 | 9,025
19 Apr 2011 #10
British man accused of molesting teenagers in Poland

i see, Serbians are right when consider Brits to be degenerics
chichimera 1 | 186
19 Apr 2011 #11
That’s their favorite tactic

I cannot believe how pathetic your egos are here

That's another example of the tactic: when Delphiandomine uses the subject to criticize Polish laws or employment regulations or whatever he wanted to criticize it's ok. When I point out the hypocrisy of his thread it means that I'm being pathetic and have no regard for the child (?!?)
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Apr 2011 #12
Actually, the subject is a bit of both - it's sickening that someone came to Poland to do such a thing, and it's sickening that Poland allows people to have unrestricted access to children without any sort of criminal check. Yes, I know such checks aren't perfect - but at least they might discourage the real nasty ones.

Thankfully, good old Polish prison justice should be handed out to him. Can't imagine prison will be pretty for a child molesting foreigner, to be honest...

British, American, Polish... they should all be strung up by piano wire around their balls.

Indeed, the nationality doesn't matter at all.
ukpolska
19 Apr 2011 #13
Thankfully, good old Polish prison justice

Too right, and I hope they get what is coming to them.
poland_
19 Apr 2011 #14
When a Brit molests a child in Poland it's because of... "Poland's shocking inability"

I don't quite get your point here. How can you compare killing a swan, to raping women or even molesting a child/children. The perpetrators of these crimes are very sick and evil people. Nationality is not an issue.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,379
19 Apr 2011 #15
The perpetrators of these crimes are very sick and evil people

True.

but at the same time there is no mention of guilt in the opening post.

should we not wait for the court's decision on that matter.

as for removing this man's 'balls', chemical castration may be an option.
ShortHairThug - | 1,101
19 Apr 2011 #16
Excuse me, but I'm not British and don't associate myself with any concept of Britishness. I don't even know the words to God Save The Queen.

Don’t fool yourself a Canadian is a subject of her Majesty just the same so you better get used to that phrase, so is your Australian sidekick Harry or is it the other way around? Sidekick that is.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
19 Apr 2011 #17
It's no surprising it happens there because it happens everywhere on earth.
ShortHairThug - | 1,101
19 Apr 2011 #18
Haven’t you read the article, it’s imported.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Apr 2011 #19
Would you like to read articles about how Polish people abuse children, too?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
19 Apr 2011 #20
Haven’t you read the article, it’s imported.

It doesn't matter who it is, british or polish. It happens everywhere, although I haven't heard of it being a Polish dude in Britain guilty of this.
BBman - | 344
20 Apr 2011 #21
Molestations of Polish children by Brits (and others) is another one of those "tip of the iceberg" situations in Poland. I've read a little about this in the polish media but it seems like it is too taboo for get more attention. Right now "sponsorings" get more coverage (which is another problem).

Foreigners have to be screened more before they are employed in Poland. Well, i think all prospective employees should get more screening, this process is really pathetic in Poland when compared to other western countries.

dumbass Polack

I'm quoting this to highlight your disrespect of Poles (again).
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
20 Apr 2011 #22
Isn't It all Kaczyński's fault ?

Last time i checked Tusk's PO is in charge no to reason for anyone to blame PiS. There are sick pervert everywhere there have been western European pedophiles coming to the Czech Rep. for years not to mention Asian countries like Thailand.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
20 Apr 2011 #23
Molestations of Polish children by Brits (and others) is another one of those "tip of the iceberg" situations in Poland.

So, are you saying the laxity in Poland is what attracts this type of individual to the country? In that case, Poland should step up its screening procedures and stop the low lifes from coming in!
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
20 Apr 2011 #24
Have lax rules regarding background checks got anything to do with so many youth groups being run by the Church?
wildrover 98 | 4,441
20 Apr 2011 #25
Well... here is my scarey story....

As many of you know , i wound up living in Poland after falling in love with the place during aid trips to Belarus , and later to a childrens home in Poland...

Some of the people who joined our ventures were fellow Landrover owners who wanted to help the children , and others included two paramedics , a lady who worked in a UK home for abused kids , a Brownie leader... Some of us were approved to work with children , others , including myself , were not...

This was no problem , as my usual way of doing things was to visit the kids at a time arranged with the head of the home , chuck loads of toys , books , computers and bycycles at them , play a few games with them , then scoot off before the kids got too attached to us or us to them...

We would visit the kids several times during our stay in Poland , but i tried to keep the visits short , and on our last day in Poland we would not visit the kids , no traumatic farewells for the children...

However , one time fate took a hand in our plans..... whilst we were on route to Poland , a huge storm destroyed the toilets and washing facilities at the place where we normally camped , and the friend we stayed with , and her friend , the director of the childrens home arranged for us to camp on the football field of the childrens home... we did not know about this untill we arrived at the place...

We were pretty tired after our trip , so we just put up the tents and made the best of it , but i was a little bit shocked to discover we had been given the keys to the childrens home , so that we could use the toilets and showers....

I presume that there was a member of staff on night duty to take care of the kids , but the idea that they would give to keys of the home to a bunch of people they did not know that well was a bit worrying , i talked with them about it the next day , and they said that it was no problem , they knew we were good people....

The down side of camping at the kids home was that the little sods woke up at the crack of dawn and were outside our tents wanting to play games while we were still in a coma , and the last day was a bit of a trauma too....

I had planned to pack up the tents during the night and be gone by the time the kids woke up , but i found out that the director of the home had arranged an English breakfast for us before we left , it would have been very upseting for them if we had refused it...

So , we had a great English breakfast , and after it the kids and teachers sang us some songs to say goodbye , one little boy , realising we were leaving began to cry...very loudly , and others soon joined in , before long several of our group were crying too... this is what my disapearing in the night method is supposed to avoid...

We had a great time with the kids , but it did make me realise that there is a certain innocence about Poland that for sure somebody is going to take advantage of , and not just at the kids home...

I have a friend who is a teacher at a village school , when her car was out of action i used to go and pick her up from the school... if she was not outside when i arrived , i would just walk into the school and look for her , not a problem , no security fences , no cameras , i could just wander around the school till i found her...

I would hate for Poland to become like the UK , where they seem convinced every male is a pedo , but i do think it needs to wise up a bit in the safety of children...
Al Paca
20 Apr 2011 #26
Right. But that's a tough balance to strike.

L****
wildrover 98 | 4,441
20 Apr 2011 #27
I like living in a place where you can wander in the forest and any child that you meet will usually say hello , they have not been brought up not to talk to strangers , they have been brought up to be polite to adults...in the UK they would not be wandering around in the forest , the parents would not allow them out of the dam garden , most likely they would be indoors playing stupid computer games and getting fat , not out riding their bikes like they should be....

Out where i live its not uncommon to see kids hitching a lift to school after they missed the bus , i have several times given lifts to kids , you just would not see that in the UK , and if you did , you sure as hell would not dare to stop for them , you would be on a Police register before you know it....

I am sure that one day Poland will be just like the UK..it will be a pity , but i don,t think it can be avoided...
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
20 Apr 2011 #28
Its not all doom and gloom WR
Kids wander all over the countryside and the woods near me where I walk my dog etc ,but being british i hesitated before admiting I see unattended kids out in the wilds in case,like you say,I end up on some register....

But your right, I would never give a lift to a kid if I was on my own even when Ive seen kids in crappy weather,stood at bus stops and I might not know the kid but know they are locals,my impulse is give the poor buggers a lift home,that voice that warns of Kafka situations makes me speed past trying not to drive through the puddle.....
wildrover 98 | 4,441
20 Apr 2011 #29
Kids wander all over the countryside and the woods near me where I walk my dog etc

I am glad to see that not all parents in the UK do not think the world is full of child molesters...

As i mentioned on another thread , where i lived in Leeds the people next door to me would drive their kid to school...you could see the dam school from their house...

you had big problems to drive past the school at chucking out time because of the huge number of cars parked all over the road and pavement , seems no children were allowed to walk home...

When i was a kid i many a time walked three miles home from school , i had bus fare , but chose to spend it on sweets , i survived...

Its a different world over here in Poland , one i rather like , but of course they is always the risk that some scumbag from another country who sees kids as a sexual object is going to take advantage of that....

If there are any pedos reading this , and planing a trip to the Polish countryside , you should be aware that if you get caught doing something nasty to a child out here they would likely as not nail you to a tree and chop your bits off before calling the police....
Harry
20 Apr 2011 #30
The guy should have his balls torn off and so should the people who employed him!!!

Well said (although we should give him a fair trial first).

From what I understand this particular case appears to have been going on for years.

Poland should step up its screening procedures and stop the low lifes from coming in!

Not so much 'step up', more 'introduce': at the moment there are absolutely no background checks at all needed to start working with kids in Poland (provided that you are from an EU country and work in the private sector). Why not just put out a welcome mat for nonces?

When a Brit molests a child in Poland it's because of... "Poland's shocking inability"

If this bloke does turn out to have past form in the UK, yes: it most certainly will have happened because Poland hasn't bothered to introduce a system of checks that some people have been calling for for years.

Unfortunately many children are abused daily, in Poland, UK and elsewhere.

Yes. And that is precisely why there needs to be system in place to make sure that nonces are not allowed near children!

h I haven't heard of it being a Polish dude in Britain guilty of this.

One reason you might have not heard about it is the type of policy set by a Polish supplementary school in the UK which can be found at szkolalancaster.org.uk/Child-Protection-Policy-and-Procedures-for-staff-and-vols.htm. In more than a decade working in education in Poland, I have never seen any similar type of document here.

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