News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

As always with those type of issues, it is the implication of the pro-abortion position that is the problem. Morality has always been relative depending on the situation. Killing is wrong, but killing in self-defense is permissible.

The same principle applies to abortion. In principle, aborting a child shouldn't be something anyone does on a whim. Like with killing, there may be situations where an abortion may be permissible, but that doesn't mean you can just abort fetuses with the same ease you would cut an appendix. There has to be an understanding or acknowledgement you are committing a transgression to prevent a worse evil.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


You would say the same thing about someone throwing her newborn baby into a dumpster, now wouldn't you. "That's their regret, and their business", right Dougpol?


Also no woman in the world says " I'm bored - what shall I do today......I know! I'll go and throw my baby into a dumpster! That'll be a laugh".


When a man kills a passerby in order to get the contens of his wallet, he "is more often than not desperate and feels he has little alternative."

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

There's going to be more bashing Polska going around soon. The Constitutional Court had convened and announced a ruling regarding the reforms (or legal trainwreck) of said court passed by the current gubmint . According to the Minister of Justice, Zbigniew "The Zero" Ziobro, and the prime minister Szydlo, the ruling is not a legally-binding ruling, merely and opinion by an informal gathering of constitutional judges. Who probably enjoy doing mock paperwork. Either way this is a legal conundrum, because the constitution does not specify who has the authority to declare a ruling is indeed a legally binding ruling or an opinion. Expect mudslinging over this in the near future.

In other news, a draft of the ruling has apparently been leaked online prior to the actual verdict. Goons of the gubmint claim this is proof the whole thing was an evil plot. Court judge counters that creating drafts is a standard procedure, and the one in question is 10 days old. Of note is that the ruling and decision itself did barely change at all from that version, but the justification of the ruling is completely different. Who leaked it is going to be investigated. The only people who had access to it are the judges and their assistants.

The drama is only beginning.

Life / Biomass boilers/heaters in Poland [12]

EU even hates our fuel: bbc.com/news/science-environment-35720335

News / Cameron's EU reform good for Poland [95]

Recently I had heated arguments wit my German boss who is an ardent Merkelist, and he actually yelled at me for voting PiS :D I explained to him that government has a duty to protect the borders and work for their own population, he told me that in his opinion Germany or Poland no longer exists, that we are now only "Europeans" and that Europe belongs to everyone. He also purports that 300,000 new employees are needed every year and the millions unemployed should suck it up. And I am beginning to understand why the elite is so foaming with anger. First, they think that they have already won a war, that the EU is irreversible and that East Germany, Poland, Czech etc are property of the West. I wonder what happens when the first seriously suggest that we could simple end the contracts, and that nothing is absolutely irreversible.

Second, businessmen like my boss are absolutely terrfied of a time when companies have to apply for skilled workers, where they are no longer in absolute control, can no longer pick the best people and dictate them to sh!ty jobs.

He also shouted that the unification was a mistake because the East Germans are "ungrateful" (in East Germany support for national conservatives is strongest), and that Poles, Hungarians etc should be made to pay back the subventions. Many West Germans are like that, I told him if this is so the East could still secede from Germany, together with the states that are on the same line. I mean Germany doesnt exist anyway, that is not such a big deal.

Perhaps that's really not such a bad idea that we simply split that country again, one zone for the Merkelist and her Syrians and feminists, the other for Poles, the unemployed and the East Germans, and see who fares better ;)

News / Cameron's EU reform good for Poland [95]


At the moment, the Euro makes German exports artificially cheap. As German wages are relatively low, despite the high know-how behind its products, German wares have a competitive advantage. As soon as the Euro is gone, the new German currency will rise in value, while the Polish Złoty will be depreciated. This means that, at this point, German wares will be too expensive, while Poland will not be able to afford any imports from Germany anymore. The German economy will see a massive downturn, probably a collapse of some firms, and a steep rise in unemployment.

As an additional problem, the end of the Euro will probably not come in an ordered fashion, but quite suddenly. At that moment, much of the trade surplus of Germany and the loans given, which both are counted as assets nowadays, will have to be written down as a loss. This means that the means of the government to compensate for the economic downturn will be very limited in such an event.

Long-term prospects are different, but the general level of the economy will be lower than today. Germany's prospects are not very good anyway, as it has structural deficits in its economic branches.

News / Cameron's EU reform good for Poland [95]

The only countries that would be hit really hard by an end of the EU would be Germany and the Netherlands. Both more or less completely depend on the EU and the euro, and their economies will most probably collapse without it. Although I see this as a more or less inevitable outcome, as one of the southern countries (probably Italy or Spain) will at some point decide that they have enough of being bled dry.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

This evil Kaczyński, how could his party win general elections... It cannot be, we must make a coup to defend the democracy
...

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

News / Poland - Third World Country?? [300]

For now, Poland is willing to accept 100 refugees
thenews.pl/1/6/Artykul/235635,Poland-to-accept-100-refugees

These 100 refugees should be women and children, preferably christians.
rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-fala-uchodzcow/najnowsze-fakty/news-uchodzcy-w-polsce-pierwszenstwo-maja-kobiety-z-dziecmi-malol,nId,1949946

I am all for helping christians endangered by ISIS, instead of some perfectly safe medieval muslim mob from Africa seeking for welfare ride. This way Germany can keep their medieval muslims and don't need to set stupid quotas on us, Frau Merkel would sure appreciate it!

News / Poland - Third World Country?? [300]

Poland is actually the most populous county and the premier economy of Eastern Europe: 8th largest economy in the EU, and 21st largest one in the world with a GDP of over a trillion dollars. And unlike most European economies it is still growing rapidly - we should surpass Sweden soon making Poland the 7h largest economy in the EU right behind the Netherlands.

That is why everyone was so resentful about the election of PiS and their stance on the refugee crisis. Merkel's "European solution" - which is also seen as "the only way" by EU elites like Junker and Schulz - largely depends on Polish support. Because of its size and economic strength Poland is supposed to take in and provide for a large number "refugees", certainly >100,000.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

I love he fact that you dont realise that marches are nothing new in polish politics: in 2005-2007 PO organized such marches, then it was PiS in 2007-2015 (in 2014 they protested "in defence of democracy and freedom of media", just like those guys today), and now it's again PO and modern (bankster puppets). The big difference is that today our former prime minister from PO is the head of European Commision, so suddenly the marches aren't some weird thing that political leaders and a bunch of pensioners do, but A SIGN OF A DEMOCRACY IN PERIL

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Meanwhile,


thenews/1/10/Artykul/237943,Council-of-Europe-decides-against-debate-on-Poland

UH-OH

And there I was, thinking that the ENTIRE EU was deeply concerned and critical of Poland and about to impose MASSIVE SANCTIONS against the evil kaczynski state :-D

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

So a march by the Commitee for Defence of Democracy was planned in Poznań. When KORWiN got wind of it they registered a march against irresponsible immigration policy and for solidarity with the victims of Cologne. As two marches can't go at the same time, democracy had to fend for itself.

Ok this was just an excuse to post this:
rp.pl/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=RP&Dato=20160116&Kategori=KRAJ&Lopenr=160119425&Ref=AR&Profile=1006&MaxW=750&imageversion=MainTopic1

Korwin's grills :-)

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Meanwhile in Poland...

The gubmint has just validated the project of a law meant to reform some parts of the way the police and the secret services operate, now it will have to be delivered to the senate. Within is a very controversial law that allows the services to shamelessly spy on the populace by putting the internet and people's correspondence under surveillance! Or at least that's what you'll hear in the news about this. But for the meantime, let us travel a bit back in time...

The first version of this law was passed in 2006, back when PiS was first in power (2005-2007). The law said that the services could inspect people's correspondence at their leisure, with no external check overseeing this. They could just go ahead and gain access to people's stuff, including tech data like who sent a message to whom but also the actual contents of said messages.

PiS was valiantly dethroned in 2007 and PO (2007-2015) took the steering wheel.

The 2006 law was still in effect. And nothing kept changing about it until finally in 2014 (!) someone brought it to the attention of the constitutional court, which deemed the law to be unconstitutional and that it would have to be reformed. The court even provided advice regarding an easy and quick way of fixing it - the secret service could still inspect technical data of any given communications, but a limit would need to be imposed on the way they'd access the content. For instance, that limit could be regional court rulings that would judge whether such breaches of confidentiality were necessary in security proceedings.

The court ruling was proclaimed in july 2014. The gubmint (PO) did nothing about it. They just showed the court the middle finger and left the ruling to rot.

Fastforward to today, the project by PiS is a de facto carrying out of the constitutional court's ruling. It takes the old 2006 law that gave the services unlimited surveillance potential and imposes upon it an additional check in the form of regional court rulings being necessary to access private message contents.

The public outcry to this is, naturally, DEATH OF DEMOCRACY! TYRANNY! MASS-SURVEILLANCE! ABSOLUTELY NEW DRACONIAN LAW THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SO BAD BEFORE!

The deal is also being attached to the central media narrative that 'pis has been in power for barely 2 months and they are passing new totalitarian laws in record speed!' without mentioning that speed is of the essence in this particular case, because the court's ruling *has* to be carried out before 6th february this year. Otherwise, the entire part of the law that was deemed unconstitutional would get scrapped automatically and would have to be written up and passed again from ground up (among massive ensuing legislative chaos no doubt).

FASCISM! HOW DARE THEY! A COUP D'ETAT! COMMUNISM AT ITS FINEST! HELP ME MERKEL!

Meanwhile, one of the chief corporate cronies from the opposition, mr Petru, claims:


oink oink

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

PiS have already said they don't give a damn what EU does. They're going to proceed with their plan and continue the changes regardless of what some bureaucrats may think.

BTW, how can a democratically elected government "violate democratic norms"? They didn't come into power via a coup. They were elected by majority the population. Sure, they got over 50% of the parliament seats mainly because leftist parties decided to act like retards and screwed themselves up in magnificent way.

Still, anything that happens now in Poland is what usually happens when there's a change of power. The only reason why there's so much screaming in European Commission about it now, is that the previous gov was doing what Germany wanted them to do and the new one has balls to go against German interests. It's a matter of Berlin using its Brussels proxies to protect Germany's influence over Poland.

Poland was always very pro-EU country, so I think EC rationale is to make a fuss to try to convince us Poles to start demanding reversal of this course internally. Unfortunately for them, the poor sods in EC didn't notice that times have changed, especially after how Merkel exacerbated migrant crisis and then tried to shove dindus down other countries throats.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

The real harm has been done when PO added new judges to the Tribunal, which shown that there's no "apolitical" Tribunal, just a bunch of apparatchiks. Also, I don't think the Tribunal actually guards democracy and freedom of speech, since it ruled some time ago that you can get arrested for calling the prime minister "moron".

Germans hold their constitutional court in high regards, therefore it's easy for the media to portrait any country in bad light, when they mention some tinkering with the courts there. The funny thing is that the German court isn't better at all, and the high regards are mostly historical. The German court is increasingly stuffed with party pawns, and it only became worse in the last decade because now it's sufficient to be a party pawn, while 20 years ago, you had to be a party pawn and a competent professor to be considered for the job. Also until this year, the (s)election process was done by backroom deals in a special election committee, which resulted in a typical tit for tat system for all the participating parties. The old election process was a pretty blatant violation of the constitution a creative and totally constitutional way of interpreting the German Basic Law, as the judges, who were elected by the process, confirmed.

Anyway Deutsche Bank will be up in arms about the new bank taxes (they're not that big here anyway), but I am not sure if the German industrial giants that have either manufacturing plants or offices in Poland will care. The retail business might be angry with more taxes aimed at super/uber/mega markets, but Jeries don't dominate that market here.

The outrage is blown out of proportions anyway. PiS is back-pedalling on some of the changes it proposed. The two judges that were chosen unconstitutionally by the previous government should be kicked out and replaced with new ones, to hell the other 3 PiS wanted to pick. PiS should deal with the fact they lost two elections in a row giving PO 8 years to fill the court with their stooges.

I am more concerned that they're going to throw the pre-university education system into complete chaos, after it already adapted to the major reform in the later 90s and started yielding quantifiable improvements. That and the possibility of canning the nuclear energy program.

News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]


Isn't this the same court that said that one can be arrested for calling the prime minister a "moron"? Well, at least when it's the prime minister that the court likes?

wyborcza.pl/1,75478,18865143,trybunal-konstytucyjny-grzywna-za-skandowanie-donald-matole.html?disableRedirects=true

Meaning, under the previous goverment some football fans were fined for calling the prime minister "moron". The constitutonal court ruled that it's A-OK and one can even be arrested for "disrespecting constitutional organs". And nobody was crying about the end of democracy, dictatorship or anything. So the milk has been already spilled. No need to be afraid of any "far-right" since the "moderates" are no better...

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

@Alison
"Eventually" is the key word here. If we can delay it for several hundred of years, lets go for it. Whatever the cost. If "eventually" Poland will going the the way of the dodo, I don't want it to be the fault of my generation.

News / Poland's indecent junk capitalism? [53]


Eh...? And then, it would be the lefists exactly like you, Delphy, that would be crying crocodile tears, baaaaawing that letting these idiots to starve is such an inhumane thing to do.

Life / Heroes/heroines of Poland's pop culture [27]

Merged: KAPITAN BOMBA - something about Polish pop culture and some hardcore curses

Do you want to find out something about Polish pop culture and lern some hardcore curses?

Look no further. Galaxy Kurvix is overrun by evil aliens. The only one that can defeat them is Captain Bomb.

News / Bitcoin Embassy Launches In Poland's Capital Warsaw [37]

No serious investor wants any part in Sh!tcoin, or any cryptocurrency for that matter. All the red flags are there: no intrinsic value, no government backing, limited supply (deflationary 'currency' oh my god itz heavan). I'd rather 'invest' in derivatives (hint: I would not 'invest' in derivatives). Naturally, speculators gonna speculate, but speculator is a four letter word.

News / The US sends troops to Poland for drills [83]


Putin tried nicely to tell other countries how close their relationships with the West should be. Damn those evil imperialists who won't let Putin have control over his colonies!

News / The US sends troops to Poland for drills [83]

Don't be silly, Russians are not staring to nuke anything, Putin is everything but stupid. As a matter of fact, I respect the bastatd.

I do not doubt the Russian military-industrial complex has skilled engineers and solid designs, even if they are at least a decade behind US in some areas, it's good hardware. But the army itself is a conscript-based one, how good of a fighting force do you believe all the dumb poor ruskie schmucks who couldn't dodge the draft are? That and they can't afford to outfit everyone with the best gear as much as the Kremlin would like to see that, you have a bunch of parade-worthy units with state of the art gear and forgotten garrisons armed with poorly maintained soviet era military antiques.

Still, Russia would definitely not be a pushover in a conventional conflict like Iraq or some other 3rd world hellhole that USA is fond of bombing. USA could beat it in a war though, China possibly could beat it, anyone else though? Not enough men and materiel unless they pool their resources. The up do date forces backed up by a horde of old soviet hardware would be simply too much to deal with to hold a Russian assault. Thats why we need the "policeman", Crow.

News / The US sends troops to Poland for drills [83]

Putin needs to be shown, that there are the limits. that some things will not be tolerated. Sadly, Obama has no guts for it. He's playing the game as timid as a foocking rabbit, these are Chamberlain levels of threats and warnings, Russians see these as signs of weakness which they are. Considering this is Obama's second term he could just announce they're going to station a few thousand men and some tanks in Poland at a new base. There would be Russian yelling, but the bear starts yelling for whatever minor reason anyway like a woman, there must be estrogen in all that krokodil and vodka. And the Americans would take years and years to actually establish a base anyway, and in the end the next president would either significantly downscale it or cancel the whole thing altogether before it is done.

What do the Americans have to lose here anyway? If their bluff would be called then Russians would do the same thing anyway. Ruskies won't nuke the planet over a base in a country that is outside of their sphere of influence anyway, but they might be willing to sign another worthless piece of paper and make concessions regarding Ukraine if USA stepped back from trying to station troops within former soviet dominion. Only ones who could lose on this would be the former commie NATO states as the Russians would probably raise gas prices or shut the pipeline valves, that's all they can do really. And our inane politicians would sacrifice their firstborn if it meant American troops stationed here, most of them don't give a sh!t about gas prices.

News / The US sends troops to Poland for drills [83]

600 men, what a show of strength. I bet Putin is trembling in fear.
It is just a token force of a few hundred men that's going to be here temporarily, unless they sent them to cover up scouting/debating new American base locations with the exercises being a smokescreen.

If 50k American troops would be stationed in Poland permanently then that would be what I would call significant, although still a far cry from cold war era US forces that were stationed in west Germany. Then again permanent and significant US military presence within former Warsaw Pact and USSR states alone would be enough to deter Russia, if Americans would show that they mean business and aren't just bluffing in regards to central and eastern european allies.

News / demonstration; What is Nowa Prawica? [30]

Ron Poul and Janusz Korwin-Mikke. Both fine gentlemen from two different countries share the same refined tastes and political views and should be talked a lot more than they currently are, so without further ado here is the less known Mr Janusz Korwin-Mikke holder of the Korwin crest



from the glorious Wielka Rzeczpospopolita Polska.



Fighting the commies

Will bring order to the Jewrope

Knows what is good in life

A family man Poland politician

A true Polish patriot that fights for freedom and prosperity

News / Little statistics about immigrants in Poland. Employment and job prospects. [25]

Most people are morons? There is no such a thing in life as "racism". If you are talking about people being asholes to people of a different race, I would call that being an ahole. But if we are talking about people feeling more at ease with members of their own race, I would call that normal and healthy behavior. The entire concept of racism is inherently relativistic and highly subversive. It carries the implication that "race is a social construct" right in its very core. But race isn't a social construct. The races exist, they are all different from one another and guess what, everybody is happier when living among their own kind, because that is the natural thing to do. Multiculturalism is an evil, not a good. The kumbaya rhetoric is only a mean to push what is essentially a malevolent and degenerate ideal. It is do to violence on human normalcy for the sake of creating a false unity which exists well below where unity can actually be found and ends up resulting in a totalitarian uniformity that has to war constantly with human instincts and the human soul in general in order to maintain itself, a situation which is downright psychotic

Asian people do know the value of living among members of your own race. Even when living in foreing country.

News / Little statistics about immigrants in Poland. Employment and job prospects. [25]

There is no such thing as "racism", so it, or the lack of it, cannot be a part of Polish character. The whole concept was made up by some forgotten Jewish psychologist and has no bearing on reality whatsoever. This sh!t is as Orwellian as it gets. You people are trying to criminalize basic human nature, and you know this sh!t is insane when even sometimes even babies are deemed as "racist".