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From: Lviv, Ukraine/Toronto, Canada
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Nathan   
13 Dec 2009
Genealogy / Monte Cassino + Russian labour camp [23]

Check these:

gulagmuseum.org/museums/museum_01/spravka_eng.htm
dtic.mil/dpmo/sovietunion/gulag_study_20020622.pdf

I also found some Ukhta labor camp 226/4. Maybe, your grandfather will be able to recall the number. There was also Ukhta-Pechora camp.
Nathan   
11 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Honour is not a laughing matter and it was a matter of honour to reject that
invitation.

Why then you didn't find an honor to keep your promise set in the agreement with Czechoslovakia in 1925 and broke it in 1938 invading the country, which was ready to fight Nazis? Parade invitation and all the BS flying around it, with your honor and effeminate attitudes is nothing compared to honor, which you threw lower than possible by utilizing tension between Chechoslovakia and Germany for your own gain, forgetting to keep the promise made just 13 years before! Where was your honor then? Or it wasn't as important as a letter with red roses from Britain?
Nathan   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

If someone invited me somewhere, eventually, bowing to press and public pressure
I would most likely tell him to stick the invitation up his bum.

How would you like it: for them to stand on their knees, kiss your arse and beg to come for the parade? It wasn't some gay pride parade - it was military parade for Christ sake. I accuse Brits for not sending flowers and a box of chocolate with their invitation. It would have melted touchy Polish heart ;)
Nathan   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

There is no such country as Czechoslovakia, therefore your argument is invalid. :-)

This is all you have found to answer my post? When you were stealing land with Nazis, this country existed. Nazi Germany is not there anymore, does it mean that there is no value of talking about concentration camps and all statements that there were such camps are invalid?
Nathan   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Just read this article on wiki this is a good start.

I read it -it is about Munich betrayal:

On September 29, France, Britain, Germany, and Italy signed the Munich Agreement. (SHAME ON YOU!) This allowed Hitler to take the Sudetenland in exchange for him agreeing to "guarantee" Czechoslovakia's borders - but only after Poland and Hungary (which by now had joined in) had taken their shares.

Then Poland made its move. On September 27, seeing Czechoslovakia in crisis as Germany prepared to invade, Poland issued an ultimatum (what a nice moment!) demanding that Czechoslovakia cede its Tesin (Teschen) district.

Poland had been first to share in the spoils. After an ultimatum from Warsaw on September 27, 1938, Czechoslovakia had ceded to Poland the district of Tesin (Teschen) - an area of some 625 square miles with a population of 230,000 people

blogcritics.org/books/article/poland-joined-hitler-in-dismembering-czechoslovakia/

From The Illustrayed WWll Encyclopedia (volume 1)

October 1938 - annexation of Zaolzie, Górna Orawa, Jaworzyna from Czechoslovakia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Polish_Republic

What was this region that Poland annexed?

Czech side built its argumentation on historical, economic and strategic reasons, while Poland based her demand on ethnicity.

At the Paris Peace Conference (1920) Poland requested northwesternmost Spiš (including the region around Javorina). What are virtually the present-day borders were set by a conference of ambassadors held at Spa (Belgium) on 28 July 1920: Edvard Beneš agreed!!!!!!!!! to cede to Poland 13 villages (especially Nowa Biała, Jurgów and Niedzica; 195 km²; pop. 8747) in northwestern Spiš and 12 villages in northeastern Orava (around Jabłonka; 389 km²; pop. 16133), in matter of fact the Czechoslovak authorities officially regarded their inhabitants as exclusively Slovak, while Poles pointed out that the dialect used there belonged to Polish language.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_conflicts_between_Poland_and_Czechoslovakia

Why was this Czechoslovak-Polish treaty signed in 1925 not valid in 1938, when Poland invaded Czechoslovakia???
Nathan   
12 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

You worry me brate Natane

Germans are anyway Germanized Serbs, Poles, Obodrotes, etc, etc Slavs.

I know, bro, I am not feeling well recently. But still, why do you have to bring Germans under powerful wing of Panslavia? Isn't it in a way damaging thing to do? Sort of a weakness, I dare to say.Their presence in our brotherhood will only lead to lots of misunderstanding. We can't save lost sheep - let them roam and fall off the cliff eventually. When it is dying somewhere in the abyss, we will come over to skin it and make a feast. Panslavia will rejoice then in its purity, without any Germanic sediments.
Nathan   
11 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Funny thing is that the Germans ended up screwing the Ukrainians.

Haha. Yeh, they barely managed to stay a couple of months. If you want to talk about screwing by Germans, maybe, you'd better explain Polish blue eyes and blond hair prevalence :0)
Nathan   
8 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

I have no grudge to people who lives in thoose countries today, I forgive their past wich their naturally proud of. Even thoose Ukrainians with whole that Bandera race... people! Did they have their Pilsudski? Did they have their Kazimierz Wielki? Did they have their Sobieski? They allmost have nothing! I feel pity for them.

I love Poles with all my heart ;) My socks are wet (sorry, I peed on them laughing while reading this) - what is better now than give them a good wash and hang them on a string pulled between my beloved poles. Their fluttering tongues are of great use as well - socks dry faster :)
Nathan   
7 Aug 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Ukrainian_minority_in_Poland

The Poles suppressed the Ukrainian educational system, reducing the number of Ukrainian-language schools from 440 to 8. Higher education became unattainable for Ukrainians in Poland. In the middle schools in Volhynia only 344 (14%) Ukrainians were enrolled in comparison to 2599 Poles (1938).

Now many "filozofs" tell me that they brought "culture" and "education" to Ukraine whereas in 17th century there was much more schools in Ukraine than either in countries with such cities as Maskau and Krakau. Two greatest "educators" - Polish and Russians completely destroyed universities and schools that existed for hundreds of years.

Of the 80 Ukrainians who qualified to continue through to tertiary studies, only 3 were accepted in 1938-1939.[12] Ukrainians were openly discriminated against in the education system. In the 1938/9 academic year only 6 Ukrainians were accepted for tertiary education[13]. Eventually, many Ukrainians were forced to seek education in institutions outside the country

Here I am simply speechless.

In 1938-1939 a number of Ukrainian libraries and reading rooms were burned by Polish mobs of misguided patriotic youth who often went unpunished by the Polish police forces[7].

Quite a knowledge-thirsty youth you had back then.

Eventually, 190 Orthodox churches were destroyed and often abandoned [6] and another 150 were transformed into Roman Catholic churches.

As was quoted above Frederik William lll said:" Your religion will be upheld". Not with Polish "Christian" policies.

A large number of Polish colonists were encouraged by the Polish government to resettle in Volhynia. This number was estimated at 300,000 for both Galicia and Volhynia by Ukrainian sources and less than 100,000 by Polish sources [11] Although the majority of the local population was Ukrainian, virtually all government official positions were assigned to Poles

Exactly famous Polish expression in action: "Waszy ulicy, naszy kamianicy" said in regards to Jews, but implemented by Poles towards Ukrainians with the covered double-facedness.

genforum.genealogy.com/ukraine/messages/4892.html

General/Marshall Pilsudski started conducting his worst repressions 9/16 - 11/30/1930, when detachments of Polish soldiers and police went thru Eastern Galician villages and cities, dragging out leading Ukrainian political/independence activists (including women) and wealthier Ukrainian landowners from their homes, and beating many to death...

How did Germans dare to BUY OUT Polish houses? They even PAID for them! Shame on Germans. In Ukraine Polish PAYMENT was in different currency, not in zloty even.

After all that and much more, there are slobbering tears about UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army) and their fight for my country's independance.

Sometimes a good long look into a mirror would be advisable for some Poles...

For some? Sometimes? Mirror should be permanently attached to the forehead and removed right before putting into the coffin, because disease is incurable as I noticed on many other forums and only grave will solve the issue.
Nathan   
20 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Is quoting you and saying "Nice" looks like I am surprised? You are involved with my country because your asses were kicked and kicked hard. This is the only reason :)

You love me?! Yejjjjj! I **** you too ;)
* eyes filled with tears of joy and happiness from being loved, Nathan directs his gaze into the sky and thinks of Sokrates *
Nathan   
19 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Just one thing; the person who chooses to fight for one country while opposing another belongs to the former.

Do you think that support of one nation against the other gives you an ethnicity? What about mercenaries or people having kids and themselves living in a foreign country, probably working and doing well, who fight to protect their kids and own well-being? Let say I live in Taiwan and fight China trying to suppress freedom of "my island". Does it make me Taiwanese? Because this is how you are called if you considered of that ethnicity. Of course, not. Ethnicity is much deeper than that, something you cannot choose. What about the Habsburg empire and many nations fighting on its side against other empires? Does it make everyone "habsburgian" or "austro-hungarian"?

Again my question remains open: "What makes you to be of a certain nationality?"
Nathan   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

...In 1497 Nicolaus was enrolled in the University of Bologna as of German nationality and a student in canon law
THAT is a killer argument

It definately is. He considered himself as such then he must be regarded as such. Nice coup de grace in Sokrates' crimpled body giving off the last breath in this argument :) His spirit will still be able to fight in the world of internet, though, supplying more unbased arguments ;(
Nathan   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus#Death

"The astronomer's grandfather, Lucas Watzenrode the Elder, was a decided opponent of the Teutonic Knights.[56] In 1453 he was the delegate from Toruń at the Grudziądz conference that planned an uprising against the Teutonic Knights"

His grandfather also supported financially the struggle against the Teutonic order even though he was German. So point about Copernicus' fight against T-guys doesn't convey his belonging to Polish origin.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus#Death

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states: "Thus the child of a German family was a subject of the Polish crown."[65]
Ok.
Nathan   
29 Jun 2009
Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

Sasha

Welcome to the world of Russian bull sh*t. Every sentence is full of lies. I completely agree with PennBoy that Polish and Bielorussian family would have difficulty to understand each other. I had a chance to speak to guys from both countries at the same time and I had to be a translator as each one of them were missing the parts of the conversation. On my part I never studied either Polish, or Bielorussian, but somehow it is easy for me to understand both.

The second thing is to claim that there are only two Slavic nations is simply preposterous and say that some Ukrainian professor claims that it is the truth. Please, get the quote of him, his name and credentials, Sasha. Don't throw words like that. Nobody says Russians are actually Mongoloid nation with Ugro-Finnish condiments here, although it is not a secret, I think.

Ukrainians living in the western region are not standing apart of the nation, but are actually something like Piemont was in Italy - it unites Ukrainians together. On the other hand, the most pure version of Ukrainian language is considered to come from Poltava region which is in eastern part of Ukraine.

Sasha as always tries to bring the stench from Russian steppes which he enjoys to breathe in, but that's ok, what else he can do? ;) I wish he could expand more on his Asiatic roots instead of explaining who is who in blind lies.
Nathan   
23 Jun 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Yes, "kh" in Ukrainian (English) = "ch" in Polish. "K" is silent. So you would read it as "cholod", correct. Little correction: the city's name is Kharkiv (Charkiv) and khlib (chlib) if you are interested in Ukrainian pronunciation. :)
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I quote Emanuel Ringelblum his statements are repeated in many other books one of them is one you quoted.

The statement I was interested in was only from that book, so...
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Am I a Murder?: Testament of a Jewish Ghetto Policeman (the original title is "A History of a Jewish Family During German Occupation") by Calel Perechodnik is an interesting account by a twenty-seven year old ghetto policeman in Otwock, a town near Warsaw. Perechodnik began his memoir on May 7, 1943, while hiding in the home of a Polish woman in Warsaw. The memoir, which is primarily a confession of the guilt he feels for his responsibility in bringing about the deportation of his wife and two year old daughter and their subsequent death in Treblinka (...)

academic.kellogg.edu/mandel/collins_rev.htm

This is the author of this book, who made his wife and kids deported and killed. And you quote his statements?
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Before slappering with your tongue around - read what I marked by a link. I did it 2 minutes ago and you already gave me an answer. Read first. And show me the source I was asking you of.
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

The Polish-Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum has described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians

Please, provide a source when you quote someone. Read at least pp. 17-21 for your general knowledge.
Nathan   
18 May 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

"-" vs "O"
glód - holod
chlód - kholod
krowa - korowa
krona - korona
król - korol'
młot - molot
mróz - moroz

"O" vs "I"
stól - stil
dom - dim
ból - bil'
pot - pit
okno - wikno

Very similar words:

choroba - choroba
łopata - lopata
pies - pes
parasol - parasolia
zima - zyma
lato - lito
wiosna - wesna
życie - zyttia
żyto - żyto
niebo - nebo
wiatr - witer

Different words:

biedronka - zozul'ka
kotwica - jakir
czołg - tank
Nathan   
18 May 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Isn't it true that Polish 'o' often becomes 'i' in Ukrainian, e.g. 'Dobra noc!' in Polish vs. Ukrainian 'Dobra nich!'??

Yes, and "rz" often is expressed as "r" in Ukrainian:
rzeka - rika
rzecz - rich
porzeczka - porychka
brzeg - bereg
brzoza - bereza ...
You can also notice that in Polish "e" is omitted in the last two words, while in Ukrainian it is present.
Nathan   
6 May 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Lwow, Luck, Kamieniec Podolski i Zytomierz wiecznie polskie!

I can translate it: L'viv, Luc'k, Kamianec'-Podil'skyj and Zytomyr - zawzdy ukrajins'ki!
Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
History / POLISH MEMORIES OF CHERNOBYL...April 26th 1986 [32]

I was in Ternopil' oblast' in Ukraine helping my father to plant potatoes in my grandpa's field. I was 7 then. It was a hot day, clear sky, not a single cloud. We found out about the tragedy at the plant only from the radio when Sweden noticed some radioactive material in their air. May 1 was a parade in all the cities of Ukraine, then part of the Soviet Union, 5 days after the explosion!!!! and 70 kms from the place!!!!!!(if we are talking about the biggest parade in the capital Kijiv) and people were completely unaware of that with their kids. It was horrible. Communism is the worst thing that could have happened to this world. Deputies and high shots of the government sent their kids abroad while people like us were dying not knowing from what. Many firefighters died as well - ones immediately, others after a while - extinguishing the radioactive fire. These people are true heroes and they saved lives of millions. Imagine also - they had a big radio-waves dumper in Lviv to kill the waves coming from Western Europe to keep all unaware. How ....is it?
Nathan   
22 Apr 2009
Food / Your favourite Polish foods! [180]

cabbage rolls with mashroom sauce it is to die for and go to heaven.

I would give my life for that and later when I am in heaven I want more of them + Gory Wawelskie --hmmmmm -mnyam-mnyam :)