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Joined: 2 Feb 2009 / Male ♂
Last Post: 24 Feb 2013
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From: Poland/Kraków/Leżajsk
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Gregrog   
24 Feb 2013
History / Question about interwar Poland [13]

What were the chances of interwar Poland to achieve the prosperity?

Let's look at this:

You have a country which a few days ago happened to be 3 different countries. Different countries with different systems of railways, roads, schools, law, treasure... different everything except the willing people. And then we have global crisis wide-spreading. And you know... this hopeless country got united within 20 years, build a whole city and port which happened to be one of the most important ports in Europe just in a few years and so on...

Yes, it was a country of millions of failures and even more problems, but there were people with vision, willing to work and fight for it. They achieved enormous success within the time given to them.

I would love to see present day Poles with such attitude, but we just moan and cry about our inability to build a few kilometres of highway.
Gregrog   
20 Feb 2013
Language / Polish pet names [21]

Persons name? Rather not. Surname - yes.
For pet? Why not?
Gregrog   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

We were so big treat to Germany that they need to end almost in Moscow, London and Giza :D
Gregrog   
19 Feb 2012
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

I do wish people would learn that cities are an utterly crap place to have a battle.

You're wrong - cities are perfect to have a battle with stronger opponent, who has more tanks, guns etc. Examples: Warsaw 39, Wilno 39, Stalingrad, Berlin. The only problem is with civilians. If they won't be evacuated, they will be killed. Small number of casualties of Polish underground compared to civilians comes from the fact that soldiers at line were very close to the enemy - sometimes just rooms, wall. All enemy artillery, planes etc were put behind front line to make sure it won't make friendly fire.

Read the whole discussion here:

Why you have quoted just one post? Other differ much from your statement.
Gregrog   
6 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]

You mean recognising the government of national unity in Warsaw rather than the self-appointed unelected government in London.

So this government was good between 1939 and 1945 but later was not? "Government of national unity" imposted by invader was more democratic then the one which was continuation of legal government of Poland? You are very intelligent but at the same time stupid like hell.

I would certainly not blame you: I lent him the money and I failed to collect it. Much as Poles failed to hold the free elections promised to them.

And what if Ironside was well recognised with long tradition and respect worldwide bank, which told you it is safe? Would you still be so stupid to not blame institution which mislead, misinform, cheated you?
Gregrog   
5 Sep 2011
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

As far I know peasants weren't consider as a nation in the times you are writing about. It was the nobility. Present day Poland base on the nobility heritage mostly which vital part is "złota wolność szlachecka" - the golden freedom(proof of it is no needed I think) So MyMom is right:)

When you are talking about serfdom, please do not forget that Poland after 1795 didn't exist. Abolishing of serfdom on Polish land was part of the fight between Austria, Prussia, Russia and polish nobility(rzeź galicyjska). Partial abolishing of serfdom in Poland: Ustawa o sprzedaży królewszczyzn( 1792),Constitution of May 3, 1791, uniwersał Połaniecki(7.05.1794) and Kołłątaj act of 1794
Gregrog   
17 Dec 2010
Life / Polish patriotic music! [40]

New remake of "Ballada o Janku Wiśniewskim" made by Kazik. Quite nice version.
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Gregrog   
24 Sep 2010
History / Digital reconstruction of Warszawa - Miasto Ruin - rebuilding the destroyed Warsaw [31]

The point is that there is no need to produce artist's impressions: there are real images that show this already!

Let me quote myself:

It is hard to imagine the whole picture when you are watching just a few of pictures..

No. It uses 3D rendering. It is not in 3D. If it was, you'd need special glasses to view it and you clearly don't.

This is 3D - Three-Dimensional Graphics - which is part of computer graphic used to show Three-Dimensional objects on the screen of your PC. You are talking about 3D effect in cinema.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafika_tr%C3%B3jwymiarowa
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_3D

Sorry for links in polish, but the images there are enough to understand that I'm correct... and you too. But this cartoon is in 3D as NFS, Gothic, Counter Strike is.

There's not a vast amount of point trying to discuss the twentieth century history of Warsaw with somebody who doesn't even know what MDM is.

Too stupid sentence to be discussed.

As for cost, which would have cost more: repairing the surviving structures or building PKiN?

You said that you won't discus with person who don't know what MDM is and then you are putting such funny question? Are you really don't know why and on what occasion PKiN was build? If Papa Stalin wanted, PKiN would stand on the place of Royal Castle and can't imagine veto about this.

No, the area of the former ghetto was raised to the ground

You were exact so I will be even more: it wasn't. The level of ground wasn't at "the bottom of the ground floor windows" but about 1m lower. By this logic ghetto wasn't razed to the ground. It silly but it's you who wanted to be exact.

Of course ghetto was razed to the ground using "poetry" meaning.

The rest of Warsaw suffered far more from Verbrennungskommando than from Vernichtungskommando (the latter focused their post-uprising efforts on buildings of historical or cultural significance.

Does it change something?

Not as clearly as real images do.

It will show far more clear. Compare quality of aerial photos which I prepared for PKiN using Google Eart with the movie.
Gregrog   
24 Sep 2010
History / Digital reconstruction of Warszawa - Miasto Ruin - rebuilding the destroyed Warsaw [31]

Producing 'artistic impressions' when there are factual photographs simply encourages the (inaccurate) belief that Poles lie about history.

Sorry, I misunderstood you... but now I have other problem. How can such a project, reserch, lead to this belief? Using your logic, anything we will do, war movie, cartoon, scratching ass, will be artistic impression and will show us as liars. Funny, because I have never heard accusation of producers of Stalingrad(1993) and thousands of other projects of lying as it was artistic impression. Only when Poles want to show how Warsaw looked like soon after the war there is problem.

It is therefore an artistic impression.

If you want call it artistic impression, you are free to do it, but it doesn't change fact that what we can see it real image of the city back to that times. Impression or not most of it is true and has great educational valour. It is hard to imagine the whole picture when you are watching just a few of pictures... and I don't think anybody has enough time to look at each of thousands of pictures. For most people it is better and easier to watch 6 min move.

Please don't lie: the film is not in 3D

Yes it is, it's easy to see it when the plane(camera) fly over bigger buildings.

Yes. If you want to prove me wrong, tell me what happened to the town houses in the area where the MDM development now is.

I don't know what MDM is but answer is simpe: the ruins was demolished. After the war architects and commies decided to change the city plan. Quite easy when there's no inhabitants and cost of restoring of most of the buildings was too high.

The photos you posted clearly show that buildings were damaged, not razed to the ground.

As far as I remember only Sobibór can be name as "razed to the ground" if we want to talk about exact meaning of the words... but language is not always as exact as you want. And no, I don't need optician. I see good enough to not see roofs at most of the houses etc.

But what are we talking about here? What happened after the war, during rebuilding Warsaw isn't topic here. We are talking how Warsaw looked like after German presence in the city. This "cartoon" clearly shows it.
Gregrog   
23 Sep 2010
History / Digital reconstruction of Warszawa - Miasto Ruin - rebuilding the destroyed Warsaw [31]

Harry, what artistic impression? This short movie was based on real footage taken soon after the war and it is compilation of this photos. It is only show in new, XXI century way of 3D. Your reaction only show that you hate when somebody tries to remember what Germans did 65 years ago. It is silly, simple silly.

You have accused Poles of faking history or something like that. I'm not sure if I understand correctly. So you disagree that Germans are responsible for total destruction on Warsaw? You said that we demolished big part of the city... I have question: how something can be demolished, when it was razed to the ground before?
Gregrog   
19 Apr 2010
Life / Polish patriotic music! [40]

youtube.com/watch?v=Ah9x7t22U-Y
O mój rozmarynie

youtube.com/watch?v=5CiyU68bIC8
Zakazane Piosenki - Deszcz Jesienny

youtube.com/watch?v=oIg17230r4o
Nie masz nad żołnierza dzielniejszego człeka...

modern
youtube.com/watch?v=YVG7iZ4jx20
Chłopcy z Placu Broni: "Niepodległość"

youtube.com/watch?v=sHY4lYTufiw
Jacek Kowalski - Psalm rodowodowy

youtube.com/watch?v=3CMcTGb_TmU
Piosenka dla nieznanego żołnierza

When it comes to modern patriotic music - try Lao Che and their Warsaw Uprising album (Lao Che - Powstanie Warszawskie).
Gregrog   
17 May 2009
Po polsku / Nazywam się Jade i mieszkam w Anglii. [37]

wszyscy męczyzny lubi lody,
mnóstwo kobiety lubi kiełbasę

Wszyscy mężczyźni lubią lody, (erotic)
mnóstwo kobiet/ wszystkie kobiety lubią kiełbasę (ee, not too much fat ? ;) )
Gregrog   
17 May 2009
Po polsku / Nazywam się Jade i mieszkam w Anglii. [37]

Nazywam się...

Nazywam się Jade i mieszkam w Anglii. Chciałabym uczyć się języka polskiego / polskiego, ale nie wiem jak to robić( I don't know how to make it. "Nie wiem robić" does not sense). Dlatego jestem tutaj!. Bo / ponieważ potrzebuję pomocy. Mam 17 lat. Widzicie, że nie mówię dobrze.* Nie mam nauczyciela... XXXX( I don't know what you wanted to say here:)

* quite good or even better could be "Sami widzicie, ... "

At all it's quite good. :)
If you want to practise your polish with me, you can PM me.
cheers
Gregrog   
9 Apr 2009
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

"Słowo kutas to rutenizm, pochodzący z drugiej połowy XVI wieku, oznaczał ozdobny pędzelek - wisiorek z nici jedwabnych.
Drugie znaczenie - czyli penis - pochodzi z wieku XVII lub XVIII."

The word "kutas" - 2nd half of XVI century - decorated pencil(?), pendant(it appears in "Pan Tadeusz" As a penis - XVII - XVIII century.

Re Czwakiel -- obscure. Possibly from szwak (archaic term for brother-in-law) or German/Yiddish adj. schwach (weak), ergo a weakling? But this is all very dubious.

Pity, that you don't know:)

no.
In fact, I know some ppl with surnames as "Niemczyk" and I didn't hear any complain about it.