Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Hi again. Reviving this very-old thread. Time sure has passed, hasn't it? I was recently informed that family records for the family may exist in the Archiwum Państwowe w Przemyślu. They apparently have records going back to 1845. Does anyone here have access to that database? A search would be greatly appreciated if possible.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Hi,

This is Dominic's grandson. I found one picture of Wasyl, but I'm interested in the ones you have. The picture of Wasyl on findagrave.com was taken outside Dominic's in-laws' house in Calumet City, IL.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Hi there,

My email is Koach137@mail2poland.com

I sure appreciate this.

I was wondering if you were still around to answer some other questions if that's possible:

1. Do you have any info regarding the siblings of Wasyl and Helen (our great-grandparents) or further info of relatives in Poland? I know of Wasyl's sister Tekla "Tillie" on Rice St. in Chicago who had a son named Nestor. I'm not sure of their last names. One of my uncles said that Tillie was married twice, and Nestor was from her first husband who died. I know that Helen had an older sister named Marianna "Mary" Solomon and a younger brother named Frank Pilip. I've gotten quite a bit of info for them. I wasn't able to find an obituary for Mary's son John (died February 2002 in Reno, NV). I know very little about his family. I think I have a picture of one of his wives. I've been told by different people that he was married twice. On the picture is written, "To Aunt Helen, Love Marian Solomon." This 'Aunt Helen' is our great-grandmother.

2. Do you have middle names, birth dates, birth locations, death dates, and death locations for the descendants of your grandmother Anna Lewicki? I don't expect you to put it on here to the public. It could be done over PM or email.

3. Is her first husband Raymond Hancasky, Sr. still alive? I can't find a date of death for him anywhere.

If any of this is too difficult to answer, I understand completely. Have a great day!

I was looking and noticed a poster had a bit of info about Theodore's family. If he or anyone else is available, I'd like to know the date of death for his wife Martha.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Hi,

I'm Wasyl's great-grandson and would like to see that pic of him if possible. Are you able to upload it to the computer if possible? His memorial on findagrave.com lacks a pic of him, and my late grandmother (Wasyl's daughter-in-law) misplaced most of her pics of the Kocielko family when she moved. Thanks for posting!

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

I haven't been told I look a certain nationality. People have commented on my eyes - I guess they look unusual.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

I've considered it.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Plus there's supposedly Georgian if my relatives are correct.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

These are all my known nationalities:

Father - Ukrainian, Russian, Polish

Mother - Scandinavian, German, Irish, Italian, Polish, French, etc.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Here I am again. When I ran the under a face-recognition site to compare you to celebrities, it listed all Asian ones. Do these pics change your opinions of the nationalities you guessed from the others?

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Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

According to family I have some Georgian in me. That one is correct. Try to keep an open mind about other parts of Europe, too. ;) I've got some Ukrainian/Russian, too.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

This is me. I'm quite mixed, but I'm mostly Polish. Can any of you guess my nationalities? 'What' do I look like to you?

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Genealogy / Surnames Gall / Figura / Odrowaz [34]

I wrote to a relative who has info on my Zmuda branch of the family. She doesn't want information from the Zmudas to appear in online inquiries, so it would be done over the email.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

This is my late grandfather. His family moved around Eastern Europe, so his true origins are a bit of a mystery. His last name is Ukrainian (Lemko) from SE Poland, but the family claims they worked in Ivan the Terrible's secret army and moved away from Russia. What does my grandfather look to you? The woman is his mother. I don't have any pics of his father, but relatives claim he could pass off as Stalin's twin.

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Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

I'm wondering if I have Tatar ancestry down the road. I put two of my pictures on a website which shows which celebrities you resemble. On both pics I got almost all Asian celebrities.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

I have several, but I only added two to his memorial. I have no pictures of your grandfather, my great-grandfather Wasyl/Basil. I was told he looked a lot like Joseph Stalin, though. Do you happen to know Tillie's last name(s)? I know she was married two times had had her son Nestor with the first husband - online info and my uncle confirmed this. I'm not exactly sure of the last names, though. Also, do you know if your grandfather Wasyl/Basil had any other siblings besides her? I believe there was another sister named Malanka Wolownyk. Your grandmother Helen had a sister named Marianna/Mary Solomon (she died in the family's home at the end of Luther Ave in 1944, I believe). Frank Pilip was their younger brother. Another brother was killed by the Germans in WWII. I don't know his name. His daughter was named Leona Stoklosa. To my understanding she stayed in Poland.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

You can see pictures of the family's graves, as well as pics of my grandfather Dominic and our great-grandmother, at findagrave.com. I don't have a memorial for your father Paul yet, because I didn't know his location of burial or if he was cremated. If you'd like him to have a memorial, I can add one for him if you tell me this info. Or, if you would like to add it yourself, that's fine.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Some of my relatives have high cheekbones. I do to a certain degree, I guess.

Genealogy / Looking for Sakowski ancestors (near Kierzek??) / also Szymanski [30]

Thanks, Grzegorz. I don't remember writing about Sakowskis, and I have none in my database. Perhaps Beti wrote in the wrong thread... unless I missed something.

Genealogy / Looking for Sakowski ancestors (near Kierzek??) / also Szymanski [30]

Is anyone able to translate Beti's text into English, please? I can make out parts of it.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Dziekuje za pomoc, Jaworski.

Well, a volunteer located a picture of my great-grandfather Wasyl Kocielko's gravestone which listed his year of birth as 1877. I thought the 1881 date on his death certificate may have been incorrect, as his immigration record and WWI Draft Card both list a date in 1877 or 1878. If anyone else who is researching the same surnames has information, I'm interested.

I received the marriage certificate of my great-grandparents and learned some things:

They were married August 10, 1909 at Holy Cross Church in Joliet. He was 29, and she was 20. It was a first marriage for both. Andrew Olownik and Anna Wilk are the witnesses. Andrew's last name is similar to the Olepnik name I found for a possible stepfather to Wasyl's nephew Nestor. This Andrew could be him. The parents of Wasyl were Dymitr. (last letter could be i or o, I guess) Kuciełko and Ewa Buczyk - slightly different than what I had, especially his father. Helen's parents were Adalbert Pilip and Catharina Urbaniak.

According to Wikipedia, Dymitr is the Polish form of Dmitry, so the name on Wasyl and Helen's certificate of marriage is probably correct the way it is.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Thanks. The website for the town spells it as Lubno. It may have been Lubna when the Lemkos still lived there.

If possible, I would like a translation of this email, please:

Dzień dobry.
Ja niestety nie rozumie po angielsku.
Co do Pani informacji to już wczesniej jak odebrałem pocztę szukałem ewentualnych krewnych. Z ustalonej lokalizacji rodzina Pani mieszkała "na dole" to jest taka nazwa części wioski. Obecnie w tym rejonie zamieszkują chyba tylko potomkowie, którzy niewiele znają swoje drzewo genealogiczne.Jeśli uda mi się jakieś informacje zdobyć to prześle odwrotnie.

Pozdrawiam
Stanisław Tymowicz

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Looking at this translation again, I noticed Lubno is shown as Lubna. Which one is the correct form? Any help would be appreciated, as always.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

I noticed that people in Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, and probably other areas had the surname Kochalko, which would be the phonetic spelling. My great-grandfather first settled in McKeesport, PA before he went to Joliet, IL. I wonder if a relative followed him to PA.

I also noticed a Stefan Koczolko, who came from Lubno. I believe this might be the Steve Kociolko I found in Kansas. Steve's wife was Stefania M. The children were John and Rose E. In Chicago a Helen Kociolko was boarding with someone.

I have a lot of names from various Kocielkos now, but now I can't link them together.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

It says your email is set to private.

Language / Spelling "aunt" in Polish [142]

Dziadzia and Busia are shorter forms, like grandpa and grandma.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Thanks once again, Miranda.

Hello once again,

I received another email. May I have another translation, please?

Dziêkuje za odpowiedz. Jak sie domysli³am mieszkasz gdzie¶ w USA.Masz
du¿o wiadomo¶ci o rodzinie..Ja niestety ma³o. Moja mama bardzo ma³o
mówi³a o swojej rodzinie.Ona siê bala, przecie¿ ¿y³a za czasów komunizmu
w Polsce. Nawet ze mn± ma³o o rodzinie rozmawia³a. Jak przychodzi³y
listy z USA to przedemn± ukrywala, gdyz ba³a siê ¿e jako dziecko
moglabym siê gdzie¶ wygadaæ i ona mogla mieæ nieprzyjemno¶ci. Moja mama
zmar³a w 1987 roku by³a wiary greko-katolickiej . Wszystko co po niej
zosta³o to odpis zawarcia ¶lubu gdzie jest napisane ¿e jej ojciec mial
na imiê Andrzej a matka Magdalena. Mam je¿ star± kopertê która jest z
USA od ciotki Bucek z 1957 r. i jest taki adres 852 Colbrna ST Jolet ,
chyba dobrze przeczyta³am.
A tera napiszê tobie co¶ co mnie przerazi³o. Nigdy w ¿yciu nie
wchodzi³am na strone internetow± w poszukiwaniu rodziny.W dniu
27.04.2007 siedz±c w pracy co¶ mnie tknê³o abym wesz³a na t± stronê i od
razu zobaczy³am ¿e kto¶ poszukuje rodziny Kocio³ko z £ubny, chyba jest
to jakie¶ przeznaczenie.
Mia³am ju¿ podobny przypadek w 1987 roku. Wtedy by³am w USA. Opiekowa³am
siê starsz± pani±, której córki m±¿ by³ prezydentem banku w Chicago.
Wtedy obchodzi³ 25 lat pracy i zaprosili mnie na bankiet do restouracji
w Chicago. Siedz±c przy stole obok mnie siedzia³ Pan, który mówi³ po
polsku. W trakcie rozmowy okaza³o siê ¿e jego rodzina te¿ pochodzi³a z
£ubny . A jak sie przedstawili¶my to okaza³o siê ¿e te¿ nazywa sie
Kocio³ko i jest moim dalekim krewnym. On te¿ pracowa³ w banku. Ja
niestety na drugi dzieñ ju¿ wraca³am do Polski i nie wziê³am adresu.
Mo¿e co¶ ci to powie , mo¿e to kto¶ z twoich znanych krewnych. Czekam
z niecierpliwo¶ci± na odpowiedz.

I meant to say an English translation. I apologize for the different characters, but that is how I received the email. If much info about living people is included, could someone send it via private message, please?

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Hello,

I received two emails. Could I receive translations, please?

Dziekuje za wiadomo¶æ. Prawdopodobnie jeste¶my spokrewnieni. Wiem ¿e
mojej mamy ciotka wyjecha³a do Joliet, Illinois. Tam mia³a restouracjê.
Moja mama i jej siostra Hanka po zakonczeniu II wojny by³y w Angli,
ciotka chciala aby one przyjecha³y do USA. Hanka pojecha³a do USA i
mieszka³a gdzie¶ w ILLonois. Moja matka w 1947 roku wrócila do Polski.
Zaraz po przyje¼dzie do Polski pojecha³a do £ubny, ale ju¿ tam z rodziny
nikogo nie zastala. W Polsce ju¿ nikogo z rodziny nie znalaz³a.Ja w
1997 roku pojecha³am do £ubny, ale te¿ nic wiêcej sie nie
dowiedzia³am.Wiem ¿e jaki¶ daleki krewny ale nie znam adresu mieszka w
Chicago. Je¿eli wszystko sie zgadza to mo¿e sie przedstawimy . Ja mam na
imiê Mirka , mieszkam w Chodzie¿y (Polska), niestety nie znam
angielskiego.

Zapomnia³am dopisaæ ¿e mojej mamy ciotka w Jollet nazywa³a siê Bucek

I meant to say could some translate into English, please.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Thanks so much for the quick reply, Miranda.

Genealogy / Kocielko surname - I would appreciate any info [44]

Hi,

Is her son the one named Ben? I spoke to him a while back over the email. I think that Theodore and my great-grandfather Wasyl were cousins, judging by the closeness of their birthdates, not brothers. The mother of Bazil, the bar owner, was Marya, according to his immigration papers. Bazil's son was called Eddy. His wife was named Antonina. Eddy's wife was called Anne. Bazil and Theodore may have been brothers. Did you know a Tekla Kocielko from Chicago? All I know about her husband is that he was blind. She's the only sibling of Wasyl's I know of. Her married name is unknown, but her son was named Nestor. He and his parents lived in Joliet for a time before they went to Chicago. He was married to an Italian woman (Maria or Mary) and had two children: a boy (either called David or Richard) and a girl (Nadine). Nestor and my grandfather Dominic were close cousins, I was told.

Hello again Cas,

My father remembers Pauline, Louis and Mary. He last saw Pauline and her family at my grandfather's funeral in 1968. Martin Luther King was killed a week before that, so there were a lot of riots in the streets. My father and uncles had a hard time getting there. To my understanding some roads and bridges were blocked.

Mary was named Mary Werner, wasn't she? She was my uncle's Godmother. She and my grandmother were friends when my grandparents lived with my great-grandparents in Joliet.

I learned more recently that a second wave of Kocielkos and Pilips arrived in the 1930's. I see other Kocielkos and Pilips on the SSDI, but I can't establish a connection yet. My father was told that his grandmother's family raised Clydesdale horses in Europe. I don't know if this is useful info or not, but....

Hi,

I received this email. I was wondering if someone could translate it into English, please.

Przeczyta³am w internecie o poszukiwaniu rodziny Kocio³ko z £ubny. Moja
mama pochodzi³a z ³ubny k/ Dynowa nazywa³a siê Kocio³ko mia³a na imie
Melania . Jej ojciec mia³ na imiê Andrzej i zmar³ oko³o 1920 roku. Wiem,
¿e ca³a rodzina Kocio³ko w 1945 roku zosta³a przesiedlona do Rosji. Jej
siotra Hanna wyjecha³a do Stanów . Proszê o odpis