Love / Polish traditions and parents (I was dating this Polish guy..) [72]


No ... :) ... because my second comment was probably for someone else, maybe for the parents :) ... but the way, I respect the English women, but this girl coming on and hurling these comments on him and his family is not at all respectable. Its "her only" version. I cannot accept that his parents wanted bad for him :).

I guess ... I guess this boy was not sincere, as it seems he did use her. But this girl is not new to such stuff. As she proudly presents her DEEP EXPERIENCE in the field of her expertise (sex), I think the boy being reckless is still having a mind which knows that having a wife is a long term thing, and such experience might be too much for him or his parents to handle.

... about the bras ... well I guess ... go ahead buy more ... many more will hand on them in future I suppose :).


MIDAS ... ... How does this feel my dear man? Good?

Oh no ... NOO!!! ... the post says that this girl is NOT POLISH!!!! ... Not a girl of my country! ... Still ... so many bras she needs to buy man! .. Midas you must help!... You are the man who makes money ... do something, open a bra shop in which you donate bra to English and Scottish women who got their broken by reckless Polish boys ... that is before they left...

You are a good and concerned man... you help people. This will earn you great blessings :) ... go ahead Midas ... you can do it!

Love / Polish traditions and parents (I was dating this Polish guy..) [72]


I am not dissing her ... but he is fortunate that he will be into something he can sustain perhaps. His family sounds like a good one.

By the way I would like to tell you that families with values do not just say "NO" as an impulse. There must've been a valid reason, and they care for their child. Plus, probably he couldn't show them logic, and hence he also decided to go with them. SIMPLE.


I dunno ... maybe that wouldn't have happened anyways. You know ... Polish men :) ... in your dictionary anything Pole is a... no no!


Thanks to her for saving her time. Thanks alot!


:-o .... unbelievable ... Midas are you OK?


You dont know them ... neither do you know her. You only got her version, and that too sounded like that of a person too experienced to take as a wife. Thank you. If I said something that didn't sound just "right", consider it an honest opinion which is not meant to please all :)

Love / Tonight, I'm asking my Polish girlfriend if she'll marry me [36]


This is the main reason it worked :)

Love / Polish traditions and parents (I was dating this Polish guy..) [72]


Good for you ...


Good for him ...

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]

Jarnowa ... please look at the offtopic section ... there is a link ... it is important you see it. Its by me man!! ... yes, ME! ... titled "A startling discovery"

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]

I've been struggling to remain to my "polite" limits with you ... but I find myself successful.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

Enkidu ... some people want to create a negative stereotype of Poles here my friend ...

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]


What do you mean?

I don't shy away when I have something in reply. He is a person devoid of logic and reason. She only twists and distorts words. I have given him a reply ... after that its just the way threads in PF run... drifting... lol


Because some people like my language ... think that they can try their luck with a Polish girl. Maybe having an illusion with model pics and hollywood! ... so many factors.


No sir, I am not interested to go brothels with my "open eyes".


I never denied there are many of then in Poland ... and even more in Ukraine :). Sometimes I wonder why the Ukrainians don't stay in their country? ... But then I guess I must continue to feel they have a decent right as human beings to select a home anywhere :) ... but I hope they show respect to their new home :).


A piece of paper is not the story of man!


Again ... what do you mean by "such people"? ... All Poles are prostitutes you mean? :) ... you are a paranoid person. THIS THREAD SCREAMS AT POLES IN GENERAL, AND THE AUTHOR IS A PARANOID INCITER AGAINST POLISH WOMEN AGGREGATE!!.


I have mentioned ... all are free... and should respect each other's freedom ... also, cannot harm the atmosphere of the overall society in which all sub cultures must be allowed to live in a healthy way.


Your perception about men are distorted ... I must say that, perhaps more after you returned from your CANADA...

I am happily married and content to the core. My family life is pleasant ... I am thankful to the superior power. I have decent business going on and I have ample opportunity to have a constructive life. All these favors I am grateful for, and I try to give back to community time to time.

Anyways ... don't assume too much on me. Spare me your so-called intellectual skills.


These days you agree with him a lot. Congratulations! :)

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]


Read the bottom sentence of the Topic Poster.

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]


You are confident in knowing things from a "sex educator" who happens to be your student. Being all knowing in sex is not often the correct assumption.

For me, sex is empty without love, and love is empty without a promise ... and the promise comes empty without a sense of responsibility between partners. If this means I lack the knowledge how other mechanisms work, I must say that the very fact that I know that other mechanisms exist is a knowledge but which I do not want to expand or dwell in. It is not my business of obsession or of any interest to me. However, to color the whole nation or humanity in a single framework or to replace emotions with scientific logic will obviously resented.

People should stick to being respectful of others, and thus sometimes the proper use of languages will always be important. So that each sub culture can enjoy its lifestyle and image ... it is always healthy to do so. Ofcourse everyone is free, and this freedom should be respected on every level.

Love / Polish traditions and parents (I was dating this Polish guy..) [72]

I think he already DUMPED her ... lol ... :D ...

But then as she boasts that she is so good and experienced in bed that any man would want her! ... I guess then it should not be a trouble for her ... so many man waiting! ...

I guess that poor Pole will end up getting married to a nice, family oriented Polish girl who will be stupid enough to please his parents and be a support on a reliable base for him :S ... who wants those kinda girls anyways? ... so unfortunate for him :) ... let him rot in that life! ... YOU GO GIRL ... rest of Europe is waiting :) ... don't you spoil you "taste" for this "kid".

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]


I read everything in here. I can tell you that you have least idea about Polish men and Polish women. I need to reassert here that people who are disrespectful will always be obsessed with the gloomy part of life, and those who write in Polish are not necessarily Polish.

I need to confirm that this site is nothing more than a good opportunity to write in English, and to thus sharpen the communication ... and that too in Polish context.

This thread is a nonsense.

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]

SOME PEOPLE here are coloring all men either as pervert or as opposing the respect of women.

I would like to enlighten them that in their efforts, they themselves degrade women. No matter of which culture, country or ethnicity ... women have to be given equal respect and benefit of doubt to their own self will.

Yes there are the slutty women, and so are there slutty men. But if someone opens the eyes, then will be able to see that there are dignified and patient women just as there are MEN! Can wait for that special person STILL, and there is no shame of incapability in it. It is a personal choice, a mark of values.

Whether it be Eastern women or Western women ... it is their choice. Yes some cultures are repressive, but I do not think that a certain class of women can really ever get repressed. Yes, the poor in any land are always going to be victims of every form of repression... but I don't think the same is applicable to the rich.

In any ways, Europe is a much different society, and here comes many women and men from East. They carry their culture SOMETIMES and I respect that. Why not? ... but I respect more when they integrate, and they should ofcourse integrate with respectful people with values. THERE ARE MANY SUCH RESPECTFUL MEN AND WOMEN WITH VALUES IN EUROPE.

I resist the concept that NO ONE IN EUROPE OR POLAND have the high moral standards. We do have, and we just don't come to the streets with it. Yes, we should make ourselves known, but I guess it will happen gradually when we MUST to resist the labeling of our whole society and all subcultures by disrespectful perverts to be a social catastrophe, a brothel ... DISGUSTING!

I resent... Midas and his likes! All the people in this thread, I wonder how many were Polish entirely. Well I was asked by this person, and I have replied! ... JUST WATCH HOW HE ANSWERS ... he will evade major points and distort my response to make it look something different. He always does that.

I have no interest to enforce anymore to anyone. WHOEVER HAVE EYES AND ANY INTELLIGENCE, READ WHAT I WROTE AND CONSIDER IT ... YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE NO MEN AND WOMEN IN POLAND WHO HAVE DIGNITY AND WHO STILL WAIT FOR THEIR RIGHT ONE...OR WHO DO NOT LIVE ONLY FOR MONEY? OR WHO HAVE A BETTER SOUL?

If you think that ... please do not consider yourself as a FRIEND OF POLAND ... but rather a stray rock ... nothing else.

Love / Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland? [121]


I think what he is saying (which an obsessed person like you cannot understand) is that THERE ARE SUCH WOMEN anywhere in the world. Perhaps more in UK even! ... Ofcourse. I was reading a thread in PF few days ago where the British girl complains about her boyfriend being more careful in chosing a bride, and leaving her out (and claiming herself to be greatly experienced in bed) for a better choice! Infact, I didn't say anything there ... but here I would like to EXCLAIM that any Polish man (not the ones you meet, the day laborers) with a good background and dynasty would always like to choose a better person for their life. Someone who respects herself in words and deed, and thus also would respect him and his honor!

So ... there you go! British women too. Infact British women of good educated backgrounds. While the Poles you often come across are the ones which are more needy. Those who are from broken homes too.


Remember Midas, Poland is not the kind of community you dwell in. We have various family structures and sub cultures in Poland. When you say "Polish girls" it unjustly colors everyone in the same light. I have family, we are Polish. I have friends with dignity, my attitude was shaped in a way that I chose people with whom I was comfortable, and I used to be (and still am) comfortable with people who have some kind of relevance with my (our) lifestyle. I would like to assert here, that WE ARE MANY MANY TOO MANY! ... We ourselves do not find interest or anything to do with the kind of women who you are influenced by. DOES IT RING BELL? ... I hope it does. My offense comes when you mark it all by saying "POLISH WOMEN" ... why don't you call them the needy, loose, useless, stray women who might wear expensive clothes or try to look very independent, but are internally distorted and deformed. You cannot relate such people with a particular nation, but you can say that you met such people from a country who came to your jobs or somehow related to it (which deals with very "manual" things).

Even manuals have very good dignity. But they are the unfortunate victims of the dirty reputation created by some ambitious unfortunates, who no matter what they say, are the curse on themselves and those who they come across.

Women and Men, who do not know how to carry themselves ... or how to BEHAVE, how to judge and move forward in life with ethics, decency and efficiency ... are not worth being obsessed about with any intense feelings (hatred or love).


In my view Midas, no one is a third worlder. No Midas, the Children of Israel were not slaves, but Children of Israel - God's people. They were mislabeled, mistreated ... everything was flawed and later which was corrected.

You cannot divide people with religion, color, economy of culture (which is fast overlapping and taking the shape of a universal culture). People, humans, are one ... and the evolution is there ... it is shaping ... and it will bring about solace ... with its own beauty which today is not clear ... perhaps just like it would not have been clear to the caveman that without thick skin how he would survive.

MIDAS ... I had no experience with a black person. I confess, my experiences are limited to STUDENTS with good reputable backgrounds (generally from East, and I once was very interested in Eastern cultures and values ... although not so much into research now), and whose manners suggested so aswell. I have friends who married into such men and I reiterated that they are not only happy, but prosperous and even examples of good marriages. I once posted some links of such a couple who took the time to try and teach each other language through youtube, but I suppose this forum have too many morons due to which I put it off.

You need to know WHO YOU ARE TALKING WITH ... WHO YOU SHOULD BEFRIEND ... Shape your own values, maintain your lifestyle and not become intimidated ... then life will show you better than what you currently keep observing.

I HAVE NOTICED THAT YOU ONLY QUOTE CONVENIENT PORTIONS AND TRY TO DISTORT MY COMMUNICATION INTO SOMETHING WHICH SOUNDS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I SAID. You believe in creating stereotypes. You believe in dwelling in the trash, of which I know, but I avoid and travel through the gardens which also exist - like a sane and normal human being with fresh and positive tastes. That is how we are different ...

READ COMPLETELY ... if necessary twice ... understand, don't just ARGUE...

(continued)
Yet I did not interact with some people from East again when I were in University. I still do not have Turkish friends so close to remain in contact (although I am sure some are good, but I did not meet, or saw from distance just the sleazy ones) ... and the Hispanic or the Egyptian (although I had a friend, but he went another part of Poland and since that no contact).

Thus it comes down to being "selective", having a developed sense of judgment. Acting on refined impulses, evolved through upbringing. One must consider "who" is that person ... "what" is the nature. The "ambition" ... and the character of the work and surrounding. All the external factors create a sub culture, which sometimes are very deviated from the main culture or completely different from many of the prominent sub cultures of a nation.

Love / Polish traditions and parents (I was dating this Polish guy..) [72]

You cannot argue with blind and reckless people who have no background. They dwell with the unpleasant, they imagine the unpleasant, and they meet the unkind.

Southern and Midas, as well as their likes are used to women who are too ambitious and would stray loose. I agree that such women exist from Polish backgrounds, and I have nothing to do with them. However, I have a decent upbringing and a respectable set of friends who I can definitely look at being ideal citizens and human beings.

No use really, it is just that Midas is an unfortunate person. I wish the person he is in relationship with would have better luck.

@Midas:

As for my "choice" in finding a life partner, I think this is insane of someone to relate that to an absence in decent and reliable Polish women. Instead it is just about love. Love doesn't occur through plan or logic ... it is an abstract feeling which just "happens". It was the same in my case, and I am a content man.

All of Midas's arguments revolve around the "loose" and the "cheap". He brings a "Simon Mol" into the equation of Polish women going for a different race. Why? Because simply he wants to look at the whole scenario from one angle and demean a particular group of people. Something specific to a particular kind of people ... sadists.

I respect the Indian and Pakistan people. Specially I had interactions and still maintain interactions with them. I respect the Bangladesh people and have been into that country for my job with ex-employer! I have also been in UK and I have met Irish and Americans. I know that the Indian, Pakistan and Bangladesh women have good reputation in your country Midas ... I will not go in to blame or speculate it into an oppressive culture of theirs (because I personally do not believe it, I think they are reasonably free and their behavior is often their own choice), but I would say that it is a mark of their "way of life" that they are more conservative. Whereas, Poles are not always so conservative specially in a foreign land because our family fabric is not as it used to be. We are turning more westwards, and specially while being in west, some of our people stray in their obligations. They lack a "guiding force" which those communities often are surrounded with (in forms of supportive family structures, which keep an opinion attached to them). However, saying that, still there will be women and men of such backgrounds who will stray. You cannot discount that.

You brought in Simon Mol? A reckless individual who went to bed with women who would also go to bed with you and southern. However, I know some Americans, Irish, Indians and Bangladesh or Kashmir, or Persian men too who married into some of the best, bright and reliable Polish women, live with them in Poland with beautiful babies and a flourishing life. How is it possible that our experiences are so different? - Perhaps because internally we are different kinds of people, and thus our interactions externally are induced and managed differently by our behavior through our attitudes.

You met a racist, I met a human. You met sluts, I men women with purity and simple dreams (among which two of my friends with whom I grew up through young age ... and now they even have babies :D, and are having a best lives :) in which they are content).

Mr. Midas you have no seen or lived in the world where I come from. Yes, we live in the same planet, but our worlds are different. You unfortunately will not know where I come from, and I just cannot relate to the opinions which come from you.

... Last but not the least ... stop blabbering about British women not being in relationships with Eastern men (so called third worlders, which I never symbolize anyone with. Its about my respect...). There are considerably many. It is foolish to think otherwise, because I have myself witnessed it. Perhaps more than Poles. Yes, they have successes and failures, but it depends on which kind of choices they make. I hope they have more success than failures, because this is what should be. Love should not be measured by the differences created by greed, pride, ego and distrust.

Go and be happy with your woman, but try not offend others with your words. I know it will not work for you, because perhaps you have already shaped your personality in that way. Quite simply unfortunate.

Love / Polish traditions and parents (I was dating this Polish guy..) [72]


I consider it as an alcoholic beverage.


Its not because they are hypocrites, but because they are polite enough and feel that no matter how inconvenient they thing the matter is, they have no right to insult or hurt someone. They have the right to make a strong opinion in traditional Polish homes, and son's (like I had) welcome and work on their opinion in their favor with logic. If our logic ends, they should either win or we rebel. However, sometimes we prefer not to rebel against those who raised us and know more about and whom I can rely most at any given point in life.


You low down sick moron ... it is YOU who is a hypocrite! What do you think of your women? The loosest of the loose! You have no right to generalize like this you humanoid. Had you been here infront of me I would tell you how Polish men with dignity react when their women (of whom they have mom, sisters, friends as the platonic and respectable way which you must be unaware of) are verbally demeaned by scums like you.

Hey you moron! ... listen up! ... Heard enough of your sick disgusting trash ... its you who have the value to meet up the sluts whether they be Polish or of your own community. There are wonderful Polish women but they will never come across creeps like you who think they know all about the world ... but the only thing they know is their own confined little planet in which they dwell with all the unpleasantness they are created off.

Go die somewhere under some rock you ****.

Feedback / A Personal Request to all PF members [119]


When you put your arguments against someone, why don't you use logic? Otherwise you just prove him right.


This one I doubt. Sincerely ... as I know from a friend in USA that this is usually not the case among Americans who have a very busy and individualistic life. However, you have have different arguments, but cannot deny social calculations renowned world wide. You should know this.


Then why should USA boast that theirs are the most effective democracy, and that "for the people, by the people, of the people" works at its best in USA? The Government, whenever it does something good (like a charity, aide) becomes yours, but when it did something bad then it was someone separate?


Consumerism itself is not someone to be called ridiculous. It is a practice by the people which makes it a potent force, and in the case of USA, Americanism became synonymous with consumerism (you may check sources for that).


I don't know about them.


So you don't want to take anyone responsibility. Is that being responsible as a citizen with right to determine the country's destiny?

Please do not take this as anything personal. I was just curious by your statement, and I have nothing in favor of fuzzywickets or against you. USA is a country with great potential and a great economy. They are the ones who were, are and probably will remain for a considerably period of time the world's most important country due to their diversity and technological strength, which supports their economy and their global influence.

However, I just pointed out what seemed to me as "inconsistencies".

Thanks.

Life / Which cities in Poland have the most expats, and why? [34]

Good explanations Monia.

We really need to stand up for ourselves, as Poles, sometimes.

Yes, it is good to know everyone's views, but Poles have their own stance on a few things. I think our Universities are good enough. It is not so bad that people will just discount is, calling it "silly" or other derogatory names.

Life / Which cities in Poland have the most expats, and why? [34]


Can you show or tell an example on it.

Australia / Secret gems (Good places to have a beer) in Melbourne Australia [20]

Ashley, can you tell me something? Is Australia in "Asia" or is it a separate continent?

Is there any logic of Australia (a country) to be named a Continent? New Zealand is not Australia.

As far as I know there are 7 continents:

1. Asia
2. Europe
3. Africa
4. North America
5. South America
6. Antarctica
7. Australia - this one always confuses me.

Australia seem so much naturally a part of Asia. East Timor used to be known as an integral part of the Asian continent till its liberation, and now is a part of the Australian Continent.

You think this is more political/ethnic/religion than actual geographic?

Life / Which cities in Poland have the most expats, and why? [34]


Yes ofcourse, you very well have your own opinion and I respect this for you! I just included mine to this thread, nothing else :). It is after all about my country (your's too?) and expats I know well from a few nations.

You are correct about those sectors, but then there are students who are potential citizens too. I know some move away to Western Europe, but I know a few who decided to settle in Europe and are doing good here. This land is not as "out of opportunity" as some people would like to make it look like.

Ofcourse, I think you have a valid point that such big sectors must be having expats from the Western World who are surely looking at the benefits of investing in Poland. I think if our government becomes a little more sensible, we can actually have many more such investments, and thus a bigger number of Expats too.


Polish doctors might not be excellent, but they are not unqualified.

Life / Which cities in Poland have the most expats, and why? [34]


So you want to call them idiots because they are trying to make life easier for themselves?

Life / Which cities in Poland have the most expats, and why? [34]


All these are names of countries with wonderful friends and expats in Poland. However, by "American" do you mean USA? I once had a good experiences of someone reminding me that "America" stands for two continents and many other nations rather than just USA.

Also, there are other nationalities in Poland aswell, you can call them expats too. They range from the Vietnam to the North Europeans, North Africans, Middle East, Indian Subcontinent and Chinese. I had been fortunate to meet a person from Samoa yesterday. He was from the Pacific Samoa (there are two Samoas). A nice man who is interesting in increasing trade with Poland.

Well, as your title suggested "expats in Poland", so I think the range can be much more wider. Poland is definitely gaining wider world's interest :). It is true we are not near as diverse as other European nations, maybe because of our economy? ... but still there are more reasons why people can and do fall in love with Poland :).

Love / Asian living in Poland asks: Valentine's coming, what to send? how to send? help [16]

If you love someone, so many calculations do not actually matter.

I am a Pole married to an Asian (Korean) and I was delighted to make it simple. She and I, both of us wished each other in our own specific ways ... and both were happy. It adds to the flavor of such relationships. In my personal opinion, there is always something new and special to discover, and if you have genuine love and respect for each other, none of your action will really bring any negative consequences.

Just enjoy each others company ... it brings lots of valuable bonuses to a plane and simple life.

Genealogy / Polish person's average height? [210]


No... not really. I've seen tall parents give short (average) kids, and short parents give taller kids. Its about nutrition and some gene effect from past generations aswell. You cannot really decide these things beforehand.


Umm ... actually it makes the woman look somehow more cuddly :)

I am not saying anything against any height ... just posted a view ... so lets not take it that far.

Genealogy / Polish person's average height? [210]

Well ... in my view...

The taller the man the better :)
The shorter the woman the better :) ...

Easy equation ... lol ...

Average good height = 175 cm for the man; 165 cm for the woman

For man, the more the bonus ... for woman the less the better (not lower than 150 though :D ) ...

Well ... but all these are stereotype crap ... heart doesn't work like that :)

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

I like the Czech people alot. Have some really nice friends there, they are really a good bunch of people. We Poles have much to learn too from some of their ways ...

News / Polish prostitute fined $820,000 for unpaid tax [18]


What harm did that nice girl did to you that you think of her getting into a relationship with southern?

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

As I said before on the first page in my first post here ...

I disagree, I DISAGREE that all Polish people are "not" polite ... I disagree with this lame stereotype ... imagination!

Love / Is rape so common in Poland? [95]

It doesn't need the knowledge ... its common sense.