Genealogy / Are all Poles blue eyed and blonde? [450]

Polish are a mixture of various physical types, but, in general, the skin appearance is fair, the hair dark blonde or light brown and the eyes green, grey, blue or green mixed with blue. However, it is hard to always pin point these characteristics as in the same family you may find brown eyed blondes or blue eyed dark haired individuals, height will vary too as well as head and nose shapes. It is a very diverse ethnic group evenly spread out all throughout the country.

Genealogy / Do you consider Gorals, Lemkos, and Silesians Poles? [35]


If you feel Papuan and you affiliate with the Papuan culture and are ready to fight for Papuan people as your own people and if this is the prime or only culture you identify with then you can call yourself Papuan and no authority can tell you otherwise because that is what you feel and that is enough, you follow the culture because you feel in your heart that this is your culture and so you belong to it.


Yes, to me they are all Polish people, unless they strongly feel otherwise but in most cases they will identify themselves as Polish. I think the fashion of today is dig out minorities and little groups in Poland but when disaster strikes we all get together as Polish and that is how it should be. Noone is preventing these people from asserting their own identity if they wish, they could even separate themselves if they wished but they have not done so, they seem to be fine with Polish identity, it is only certain outside groups who are trying to incite the hatred of Polish people and are trying to separate us all. The only group that does not want to assimilate despite having resided in Poland for centuries is the Jewish group, they think that even if they become Catholics they are still jewish just because their mother was Jewish or their Rabbi told them so, well I call that false identity, it is not formed naturally, you have to grow into your identity, it can not be determined for you on the basis of blood, blood lines have nothing to do with how one can feel. Jews are spoiling Polish solidarity attempts by presenting false accounts in the media of Poland being divided and a desire of certain groups to want to separate from Poland, that is an untrue picture, despite regional indentities we are a united nation.

Genealogy / Do you consider Gorals, Lemkos, and Silesians Poles? [35]

Lenka

You are right Lenka but who do think promoted the Silesian separatist movement? Germans of course, they wanted the land of Silesia for themselves but what they did not count on was the strong Slavic presence in the region and the stand the slavic people put up against the separation, Germans were fuelling it along with the Jewish population in Silesia but the Slavic people were too strong and I suspect a some percentage of assimilated and polonaised Germans wanted Silesia to remain in Poland, so Jewish and German efforts of separating us failed, but with Tusk in power at the moment and his efforts of appeasing Germans we may again have to struggle to keep Silesia, it is not Silesians it is Germans and our crooked government who are trying to cut Poland into pieces again.

As for the Jews who call themselves Polish as well, well so they should, shouldn't they? After all they were born in Poland, but notice one thing: they only do that to identify which region they are from and they always call themselves Polish Jews, never Jewish Polish or Jewish Poles (grammatically better), which signifies that they regard themselves first and foremost as Jews, the rest is only secondary, but it should be the opposite, well, that is not a real identity anyway, they are just fooling themselves, it is a desperate wishful thinking of the Jewish Rabbis to maintain control of the Jewish group. In order to remain in such state the Jews create an unhealthy nationalistic attitude of sticking together at whatever the cost to anyone from the outside, e.g.: if a Jewish person commits a crime against a non-Jew then it is hidden from media or twisted around to make it look like the villain was the non-Jew and the victim surprise, surprise the Jew! Just one example. The bottom line is, those Polish Jews feel Jewish before anything else.

Genealogy / Do you consider Gorals, Lemkos, and Silesians Poles? [35]

@bwaj

I think you consider ethnicity a thing of genetics, but ethnicity is a mixture of elements, even Jews did not originate as Jews as such, they were pagans in the first place and affiliated with their particular pagan tribes, that was their ethnicity. They say that the first Jew was Abraham, but Abraham was not born Jewish, he was not born to Jewish mum or dad, at some point in life he adopted Jewish religion and thus became a Jew just like any other Jew born or converted to judaism; hence in Polish we would write about him using capital letters: Zyd a nie zyd. Hence, Jewishness was not magically held down but created by humans, by pagans (whether Jews like the truth or not, their ethnic origin is pagan not Jewish). Ethnicity is a matter of how far back in time we are prepared to move. So someone born in Poland to parents who were also born in Poland but who call themselves Jews is ethnically Jewish, pagan or Polish? I think, our ethnic background refers to how much of a particular culture our parents and not grandparents (that's going too far back) have absorbed into their daily living and how it has affected them and how they truly feel. What is funny is that Jews think that if a mother is Jewish then even if the father was Polish, it does not matter, the child is exclusively Jewish, well that is like saying that Jewish so called spirit or ethnicity takes over all other ethnicities, this mentality ignores other spirits or ethnicities and it is a false assumption, it is like saying that Jewish ethnicity lives on and others magically die out in the new born, hmmmmm, it borders on racism to me, and at best a fairy tale. Do Jews really think that Jewish ethnicity dominates magically over other ethnicities? Did their pagan ethnic background also magically disappeared?

My point is that a child born in Poland to Jewish parents who do not speak Hebrew or Yiddish and who do not attend any synagogs and who eat ham even occasionally and who speak Polish and watch Polish television and read Polish books and eat Polish food and go to Polish schools and do it all all or for most of their lives and who only call themselves Jewish because some Rabbi said you are Jewish after your Jewish mother, then what can we say to that except laugh and say that the child has an ethnic Polish background and is herself or himself exclusively Polish.

Lenka, I agree with you but Jews can not shove Jewishness into their new born children, it is then artificial, for true identity to form you need a nation which surrounds you, unless you are a rat and able to go deep deep underground and hide all your life. It is unnatural what Jewish Rabbis are doing but their power is wilting now, the only true Jews live in Israel, the rest are just artificially created and think that they are part of something big and united, right! I suggest reality check for them. It's like our Polish Nergal, all his life he felt Polish but all of a sudden someone tells him he has Jewish ancestors and now he is first and foremost Jewish?? HAHAHA, what a joke! Can anyone not see how absurd that is? I guess his Polish pride had to give way to Jewish pride just because someone told him that he has Jewish ancestors, I guess he all a sudden become someone totally different at heart, is that what people are prepared to believe or is it the wishful thinking of the Jews or more some Jewish Rabbis who profit financially from the whole Jewish community prospering??

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]

I'm not a woman but I like this holiday, and yeah let's thank communists for it, women had better lives in communism and communist countries, today capitalism is taking over and women are loosing out, for in capitalism feminism stands no chance it's all about economic rationalism. Thus, women of Poland and around the world remember to vote socialism next time.

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]

It's a great concept, it's an incentive for those hopeless husbands and boyfriends who don't normally do anything for their women to finally do something, at least once a year.

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]

Men's Day? Do I need man's day to feel special? No, but, on the other hand, man's day is not on everyday, not quite.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

[quote=poziomka2]jasondmzk: Yeah, thank God it's people like you standing in the way of us "gun-grabbing psychopaths". I'm a sociopath because I don't want every guy like yourself that writes "assf*cking" SEVEnTIMES in ONE PARAGRAPH to have a lethal weapon around my kid? Myassf*cking goalis to keep kids safe and gun-related deaths to a minimum. What's your agenda? To make sure that every single person that wants one can have a gun, any time, any where? Yeah, okay. Every gun used to murder a kid was heldin private hands. And which is it, I'm a psychopath, or a sociopath for trying to keep killing machines away from people like you? A sociopath wouldn't care. Who does that sound more like, of the two of us?You are against guns?

Haha, looks like it, I didn't expect that 1. I am against guns too but what is this obsession with kids?? Gee, Such focus is narrow and disturbing, it is mostly youth and young adults who actually fall victims of gun related violence more that any other group and elderly are unfortunately attacked with armed weapon quite often too and he is talking about kids, yeah, we know Jason you have a kid, you told everyone - nice to know - but so do millions of people, nothing special. I think it's some kind of obsession, not a healthy 1 either.

News / Polish-Hungarian Friendship Day- March 23rd [20]

That's right, it's on today. Are you two Hungarians?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


The way you structured your response seems like I ignored juvenile gun related deaths or injuries, well I didn't I merely responded to you one sided rambling about kids and guns as if only kids could be victims of guns and that would be the single reason for disallowing the possession of guns by civilians in Poland. In other words, if kids were not to effected by guns then it would be ok to have guns right? That is your argument. Even if it wasn't your intension to make it so, it looks like it because of your comments.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Dude, Poland is not USA, our crime scene is different. Just quietly, America is a continent with countries like Mexico, Peru etc., USA is a country, are you referring to the entire continent or your country?

Basically we don't need those laws in Poland, there are few living in secluded areas, everything is close, people still, amazingly, trust each other (for how long?) guns would only make people paranoid like nothing else, it's a sick idea, it's for sickos and cowards, we should never allow gun laws to pass. Jasonmzk for the first time in his life is right but he makes wrong comparisons and the mention of kids....hmmm

News / Polish-Hungarian Friendship Day- March 23rd [20]

Are you visiting or do you live in Poland? Hungarians and Polish fought together few times, I remember somewhat the story of general Jozef Bem but I forgot the Hungarian general's name, who fought alongside him, sorry, do you know maybe?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

[quote=AmerTchr]And it's your country so that's great that you live somewhere you are comfortable.I am a little curious about your point about everything being "close". I would expect your crime rates in cities to be higher than in small villages and rural areas. While people on ranches and farms tend to have weapons for rodents and hunting needs, violent crimes and murders particularly tend to be higher in "close" conditions as well.I would also observe that the Poles I talk to do not seem very trusting of each other or at least no more so than any citizen of any other country where I have lived.

That's my very point, we don't need guns in Poland.

As for me living in another country it's another matter, life is more complicated for us Polish.

Talking is not enough then, you have come to Poland sometimes and see how people behave and live. There will be mistrust but there are situations when you can still feel fine as compared to many western countries where it is not safe, it is a country of many contrasts.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

[quote=ZIMMY]You agree with the above tyrants yet you disagree with this guy: """A free people ought to be armed." – George Washington

Yes, free people can do anything don't they? What free people? So you are not truly free until you own a gun? Aha. If one is so free why does one need a gun in the first place? Would you also like those "free" people to carry other weapons as well? Weapons like lasers maybe? As if we didn't have enough weapons already, people kill each other in most imaginery ways and you want to improve the situation by allowing people to kill each other in an even more efficient manner? I don't think we need more or more efficient weapons like guns, which instead of protecting will create chaos. You think only responsible people will get their hands on the guns?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


I agree with Barney, when time comes we will stand up and defend ourselves, if we have enough of tyranny we will overthrow it, and we don't need guns for that, government guns wouldn't stop us if we really wanted to take government.

As for the comment by Rysavy all I can say is that Polish people can defend themselves better than any other group of people I know.Normally we say this with modesty but I see that on this forum it does not work, most western people misinterpret Polish modesty as incompetence. So I say again, we are always well equipped to defend ourselves well. We are not French, we don't listen to our government and watch our country fall down and not do anything, in crisis we rise as a nation together and no one needs to tell us what to do because we know what needs to be done, we need to defend our nation, with any means possible. Owning a gun by Polish civilians has got nothing to do with our ability to defend ourselves against foreign powers.

There are different ways of fighting tyranny. Take the banking system for instance, those who own banks have the world's politicians in their pocket, the best way to weaken their influence over governments is to stop using the banking system, withdraw many from the bank, deprive them of income and those greedy filthy creatures will not have a foot to stand on. Besides, the most powerful enemies of people are the invisible ones, those who hide in the shadows, many bank owners belong to that group as well as rich families who own media, estates and financial sectors around the world, in most cases they are Jewish but not only. Many Polish businessmen as well as politicians and Polish Jews belong to those invisible groups. I bet they come out of shadows when public raises and then they make mistakes, we don't need guns to flash them out, just smart ideas.


Jon is right but he put it rather awkwardly; we, Polish people, have a right to defend ourselves but whether it is this type of weapon or another does not make a difference, as I explained in my previous post. Besides, we don't have a history of people running around with guns on the streets, it would awake killing instincts in many people, it would also make police work that much dangerous, what a stupid idea. There is no movement in Poland postulating any gun ownership rights, we are not interested, we never were. So those of you who keep ranting about it, get a grip, we do not need to all a sudden copy everything others do, this gun owning nonsense included.

UK, Ireland / London is Poland's 24th largest city [85]


Haha finally! These figures are not surprising to me at all, English enjoy!

Life / Traditions in a Polish Home [10]

Correct Lenka. You can bring flowers - yes, chocolates - yes and also a cake or cookies but more expensive ones or presentable ones. And yes, we take our shoes off although generally no one really asks you to do that (I do, I give guests new clean slippers to wear) but you are expected to take them off. Of course you take your own shoes off as well, I don't know of anyone in Poland who walks around their house with shoes on despite the cold weather and nowdays lack of central heaters here and there as it used to be during communist and early capitalist revival years (energy bill went up like a rocket recently!).

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]

To all those jumping on Poland again: Poland is no different if not better when it comes to tolerance of different sexual orientations, and that is despite any religious affiliations. Unlike close minded people in many other countries Polish can think for themselves and yet maintain religious ties, something that people in other countries are unable to do, examples include Islamic states and Israel as well as many western countries, for them it is either religion or tolerance, then can not marry the the two the way we in Poland can. Also, in western countries homosexuals are not tolerated, only openly their sexuality is not discussed in negative fashion but behind closed doors the hatred of average westerner towards gay person is greater than any of that in Poland, fake western facade, that is all it is, not tolerance.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]

"my brother is gay but in Scotland very open about sexuality but my friend who is Pole has cousin who is gay and lives happy over here because it was not accepted in Poland i presume x" - You presume? So this homosexual man ran away from Poland, changed countries, just because (as you fancily presume) he would not be accepted in Poland as gay???? Everyone in Poland reading it, welcome to the IQ level of the westerner who views Poland as the dark age hole, yet another academic genius of the West, that is how they view us hahahah. In your beloved Scotland people laugh and make malicious remarks about gay people all the time, giving them hard time but in an open field most Scottish behave as if everything was normal, that is their false tolerance.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]


All homophobic people are gay? Another smart quote.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]


Hahah. so the sole reason why homosexuals display sexuality in public is to teach discriminators a lesson? Good one English man.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]


I am not against gays the way you are but you asked good question here.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]

I agree with you 100%. They should not manifest their sexuality so aggressively, things like accepting differences takes time and one can not shove sexuality down other people's throats especially since to a heterosexual a homosexual acts seem gross, it is beyond one's control, it is just how one feels and you can not blame a heterosexual for that because then it's like blaming homosexual for being the way they are - same thing. However, since majority of population is heterosexual a homosexual has to compromise and introduce their sexual orientation in a more subtle manner. On the point about adopting children, well, how would you feel if you had two dads and were deprived of mother's care, that is not right a child needs a balance of the sexes, father and mother. A child has rights too.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]

Yeap, we can't take away the rights of one all of a sudden just to bring about the rights of the other. Someone used an argument that sole parent children come out adjusted to life just fine if not better than children in nuclear family, however, sole parent families are not manufactured, these happen because of various circumstances and the situation is not desirable for a parent, it is not a product of choice but necessity or accidents. Whereas the right of gay parents to raise children would mean officially allowing for a child to be deprived of one mum-dad dynamic.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]


A quote from Roger 5 (it was not a quote from NocyMrok - I quoted it wrongly) here is missing the point, for a heterosexual people it will be considered gross, maybe for homosexual couple heterosexual act will be considered gross as well, the point is different sexual orientations repel each other, so that open minded approach is also required of homosexuals to understand heterosexuals and their rights.

Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]

How so?

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


Does not matter what it makes you think or what you associate it with, culturally Poland is an Eastern European country whether you like it or not or prefer otherwise. You are confusing communism as political force with communist influence on culture - two different but related things. Communist system's influence on the mindset of Polish people has been phenomenal, for, on one hand, it did not succeed in brainwashing Polish people as it has in China and, on the other hand, it enabled Polish people to stay away from western falseness and hence fostered natural, healthy behaviours. "Iron Curtain" is a negative connotation, a false one, I would just leave "Curtain" and it's great the way it has been, we are lucky that we were behind the "Curtain".

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


Your husband does not represent Polish people. It fostered criminality??? Crime was the lowest in Europe at the time of communism in Poland, police was stationed at every corner, you could walk safe at night knowing there is a policeman around, remind your husband of that, I remember. It fostered paranoia?? Yes, communist government spied on people through phone lines, but today the government is doing the same through phone lines, internet, cell phones and tv units, I prefer the old way, your husnabd should wake up to the reality of today's world in Poland. Apathy was never in existence in Poland, we are the opposite of apathetic, we are always engaged in political affairs and more aware of what the government is up to than you in the West - it is therefore harder to brainwash us, except your husband. Like I put it, your husband is not the most informed or the best judge of political or social systems.

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]

Western foreigners can only dream on about Polish or Ukrainian girls. The only reason smart Polish or Ukrainian woman would be vaguely interested in the man from the West is because he was rich. There is nothing wrong with that, women want security and at times a Polish men and I'd say Ukrainian men can not offer that, so the women may be inclined to take the opportunity and accept advances from a westerner, but it is not because he is a "better" man, just his pockets offer more financially secure lifestyle, that is all. So whether one is hotter than the other it does not matter, they do not want you westerners, they just need your money for survival and even despite that, those women still reject most western men hahaha, who think get the surprise of their lives hehe.

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]


Those obscure famous Polish people, as you nicely put it, are famous only to us Polish, that's correct but it seems it is a tragedy for you, because they are only famous in some Poland not in USA or Germany - the "important" countries. I feel for you. However, you should direct your complaint to your western educators who failed to recognise the worth of those great Polish folks who have contributed to Polish state in one way or the other and whose contributions would have been appreciated by other nations if only western world was not so shallow and took interest in other cultures and for once adopted less egotistical view when reviewing achievements of Eastern Europeans.