History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


As far as I know, there were no plans for the Soviets to intervene in Poland. It was just an excuse. I think it was historically proven but seems to me some are making money on perpetuating old commie myths about great Soviet stateman Jaruzelski.

The Soviet Union had just failed in Afghanistan they were in no shape and had no taste for another intervention. Even though there were plenty of Red Army troops stationed in Poland.

In fact that dude acted unlawfully even with the former PRL laws, and it resulted in many deaths and political murders. So spare me glorifying nonsense about your great hero.

News / How strongly are Poles sure that president Duda defend Poland's interests ? [265]


That claim about hiding is empty. How they were hiding?
There was no reason to escalate and arrest them there, they could have been arrested anywhere, at any time. LOL! That propaganda BS about hiding.

Who is the boss of the Presidential Protection Service?
A minister in the Tusk government Skurwysynski and all he needed to do was ask to stop them while the police would just collect them. Stories about hiding all those political hacks [reteding to be journalists aimed to escalate, and radicalise political conflict in Poland.

Could be to the point of a civil war.


Oh really? What do you spew BS just because it suits what you think? It is murky like with most of such issues in Polish law but two idications were ignored by the political judge - the President's interpretation and the Constitutional court ruling that supported such interpretation.

News / How strongly are Poles sure that president Duda defend Poland's interests ? [265]


It works in the US somehow, I call mess a situation when an upstart political judge can ignore the ruling of the TK.
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yes sir! lol! whatever man, I say there were.
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It going to burn, goodbye post-columnist Banan Republic!

News / How strongly are Poles sure that president Duda defend Poland's interests ? [265]


Doesn't matter. They were pardoned. The legal system is a mess but still, that court that ignores TK and the presidential pardon is just radically partisan and ridiculous.

I'm telling you that pardon is about an act they are charged with not about a court ruling.
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Rumor has it he orchestrated it and even if he didn't that dude needs to end up in jail, but that is a different matter.

They should investigate who stands behind this sabotage.
Such an attack on the presidential column is not a joke and the driver could end up dead. I say no more as I don't know the details but seems that protection services are doing a sloppy job.

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Tusk is breaking the law and the constitution brazenly. What are you talking about, PiS is playing its drama as it always has been playing, and that is why people do not believe them now, serve them right.

However, whether you like JK or not the reality is that Tusk's government and his acts are harmful to Poland in some many ways that PiS can't even hold a candle to him.

quote=Torq]ardly a Rothschild family![/quote]
he must have stashed some money for rainy hours for such times when he going to escape from Poland for good.


They should just let them serve jail time. No big deal. After all all those Tusk, ministers, and judges will have their truen with longer sentences for heavier crimes.

They are being wussies about it.

News / How strongly are Poles sure that president Duda defend Poland's interests ? [265]


You think wrong, they have been already pardoned.
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you are missing the point IF the presidential protection service were doing its job as if Poland was a serious country the diver would be dead, Trzaskowski in jail and there would be no question about sabotaging the Presidential column which is a terrorist and criminal act in itself----

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He has done it properly, it is about the interpretation of the law. even if he didn't, that is not my point, my point is about an attack on the presidential column.

Even more, the fact you seem to be OK with that is just bizarre and sad.
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Tusk is the richest of them all and a few of his cronies are not paupers either, so shove your misplaced sense because it is not a sense of justice.

Genealogy / Kalinowski Origins [7]


No, it definitely not a 'Jewish' name although I can see that a Jewish person would change his name and call himself Kalinowski. Happy?
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Are you sure? Your ancestor might be as well serf of that family that took on the name of his master in the mid 19th century.

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [402]


Why? Is it considered to be anti-semityzm lol! Well, I should laugh it might be a reality for some.
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As I tell numbers people asking similar questions - if you are really interested and what to know you should go and hire a professional, it will cost you, not too much I think but than you will have your answers.

Asking here is rather pointless, for people in Poland names are just names and doesn't convey some secret meaning, not to mention looking for its origin or some such... it a bizarre idea for most Poles

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


I don't see how that would apply? You must have very disorganised mind. If you want to learn something there is one condition to apply before you make a comparison or provide something that supposed to be an analogy in you mind:

- context
Its look easy at it face value but in fact it is a very tricky little bugger and demands a lot of knowledge.

News / How strongly are Poles sure that president Duda defend Poland's interests ? [265]


There is nothing nice about it!
Frist of all it all unconstitutional and shady, i.e. court verdict on those two that had been already pardoned by the President.
Secondly, it could end up very badly if the Protection Services of the Presidential escort would react to this as a threat and as they should, forcibly eliminating driver and remove an obstacle i.e. bus.

The fact it hasn't happen is not a reason for a joy, It stupid!
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You may like him or not, I'm not found of him either but that is the President and sh't like that reflect badly on all of us and on Poland.

People are complaining about quality of politicians but at the same time their reactions and their awareness what a serious state and serious politicians should be like are in the gutters. In other words they have no idea and keep electing the same sort with a different face depending on a mood. How stupid is that, eh?

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


Well, they send them to Siberia or other lovely places in the wilderness to fend for themselves in the middle of the winter. Yeah but still it is a tad better than indiscriminate slaughter. Gentlemanly they are not no lol!

News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [250]


Many years ago, two dudes in Warsaw were loudly advertising their services, they claimed that for the right price, they changed the classification of land.

( the point of that classification is such that if you have some land that is classified as farming land you can sell it to a developer to build some houses there, first, you need to change its classifications, and is a time-consuming bureaucratic process).

Meaning they had some people in high places in the gov. In other words corruption, brazen corruption.
They got them and put them in prison I think.
However, at the time, Andrzej Leper was a minister in the PiS government ( his party had some coalition with PiS...doesn't matter) J Kaczynski did like the fact they had him as a minister and was looking for ways to get read of him, so he had his people to look for some ways to connect Leper with that corruptive practice about land classification ( land - grunt hence it's called 'afera gruntowa').

Kaczynski people used or tried to use gov agencies to look like Leper was implicated, it all blew up in the PiS face and they lost an election. Simple!

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Those are the same people who illegally tried to use agencies against Leper doing J Kaczynski's bidding. The big hallo is they received a Presidential pardon that long time ago and now the PO and people in court who are politically siding with the PO are making a big song and dance about it saying that Presidential veto doesn't work as it says it works and so on, big legislative, Constitutional crisis...

The crux of the matter is that PO wants PiS to take a hit by all means necessary as this is not a big deal. After all, nothing happened to anyone and PiS had already paid a political price for that. #Tusk and his crew are nasty c.nts.

Do you get it now?

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


I don't think that even they went after all groups of people and their families. Which make all the difference you apologist of genocide.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


No, wonder that politicians of other nations or even the public take Poles for fools or brazen incompetent hypocrites, the public in Poland is so naive and their expectations are based on sentiment rather than on hard facts.

You don't need to look further than the support of Ukrianie all that sentiment backlash and all the drama, not only by the public but by politicians set to exploit it but swept by the moment participating in the emotional show.

I was just shocked.
Another reason /I didn't vote for PiS.
You sound naive or dumb take your pick. lol!

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]


Well, they called Polinisation and say it is a bad thing. I'm all for it no more some pesty idiots claim to be Ukrainians, you are Poles and you should just stand in line and shut your gobs. Hey, Lyzko you solved all the world's problems.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


The public should know and support the premises on which government agencies are supposed to act. Not some sentimentalism but pragmatism should be a guide for ABW.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


There is something in what you saying. It's probably right.
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Are we running A Club of the Good Samaritan or a Counter-Spy Agency?

Po polsku / Polska miedzy Niemcami i Rosja. Zalety i wady. [512]


To po produkują i sprzedają plastic, nich sprzedają w szklanych naczyniach, Czemu klient za to płacić. To jest BS i nowy podatek i zdzierstwo. Powinni ten plastic shove up twój platfusi odbyt idioto.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Why would they arrest her, she wasn't that harmful to Polish interests. Should be put under surveillance that could lead to something substantial in the future.

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


WTF are you talking about? Those are some made-up lame excuses for murder. You are an idiot.
Anyway even if you were right about it (which you are not) it doesn't justify genocide.
According to that logic, any population that would feel wronged by any other group or politician has the right to rise and burn them all and their families.

Hey, you just dissolved Hiler and Germany from any guilt or moral fault, those Jews had it coming didn't they, that what Hitler claimed all along all those Jewish bankers screwing over German people - Jews have to pay for it.

Thank you pawian for making it clear you are a totalitarian Nazi supporter in your heart.

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [70]

It is all a moot point. The way forward is to give Arabs, Palestinians what have you some strip of land, and let them have their state. Simple.

The alternative is ethnic cleansing and that will come back to bite back in a bad way Israel tenfold in the future.

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]

Those are myths, at best those are stories told in the 18th and 19th centuries, stories that people of every nation are fed since childhood,

There are certain general characteristics due to historical and economic realities as well as a part of a greater community - civilizations - i.e. a moral code. But that's about it. all the rest are just secondary and not that important.

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Also, what are we talking about here? Who are Poles? What they are?
Nation-building myth has it that Poland is IRP that was reborn like Phenix after partitions. Let's get real here IRP was a country that included today's Lithunuians, Belrusans, Ukrainians, and Poles. So do they have the same national characteristics, are they nations or not?

The thing Poland partitions was a different country and the context of what they were saying, claiming, and acting was such that today we seldom understand it as they understood it at the time.

To sum it up, based on the First Republic emerged a few 'modern' entities or nations including Poles, who took as their own IRP legacy, and a few remaining aristocratic families whose roots and origins not always are Polish as we understand it today.

Irony has it that the Ukrainians or Lithuanians created their nation-building myth in opposition to the Poishness and legacy of the IRP, when in fact modern Polish nation is on par with them in same ways and shouldn't take all the blame or all the praise.

There is a different issue a fair divide of assets and land that is left as the IRP legacy. I say that Poland was robbed after WWII and hasn't got its fair share of what it's own.

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


So... you don't know how big it was, are you sure it was a barn and not a shack? Since you have been caught lying and twisting... just leave! or live in shame.,


Don't listen to pawian nonsense he doesn't know anything.

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


So how big it was?

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


Not only that but they were always miracle workers who managed to put 1500 people into a small wooden shack. World record.

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


Look that is my take on the issue that the majority of today's Ukrainians never have any connection to Banderisteis, it is only they were infected with its legend later on. That is why I find it so stupid. All that situation.

As to where from, from our inbreed Galicja people, jealous illiterate a-holes, there about four to five million and from them those banderites and SS Galitzen found volunteers. Before the war, there were about 40 million Ukrainians so they are and were minorities there when it came to family connections.

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]


neither, most of the Ukrainians have nothing to do with Banderites when it comes to family ties, they have just been fed that ideology since the 90s'.

News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [250]

Yesterday pro-abortion happenings are to be a big failure. Some 150 activists in Warsaw showed up and as many or fewer in other cities. lol!

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


Its box-like structure pretending to be original is right away ugly and utilitarian, the materials used and the way they are applied make the building less of an aye sore. Bearable in the context of all that the 20th century has to offer...

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


So what? Why don't you go to Africa? It is a hudge continent.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


I think that the last immigrants to Europe should be those from Africa. I would see all others on the top of the line.