pawian
27 Dec 2012
Love / What are the best love poems in Polish to receive? [77]
Your own....
What are the best love poems in Polish for a girl to receive?
Your own....
pawian
27 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Yes! Stinkers! :):):) Remind me of Scottish nobles who traded their country`s independence for titles and lands from British kings! Polish gentry in 1655 were also promised rewards for changing sides and dropping the Polish king.
Polish nobility was the pure representation of the Polish society. They were Poles and as such bring the blame on all Poles. You can`t excuse historical facts pointing at leaders. As if a Nazi German tried to excuse himself that he only carried out orders and that his Fuhrers are to blame. Come on.
Hey, I could also easily start with German invasions in 11 century.
Come on, there must be some limit to this madness!!! :):):):)
Yes! It is going to be my next historical contribution here. Be patient! We still haven`t finished with the first invasion!! :):):):)
I think we both agree that the Polish nobility was at fault.
Yes! Stinkers! :):):) Remind me of Scottish nobles who traded their country`s independence for titles and lands from British kings! Polish gentry in 1655 were also promised rewards for changing sides and dropping the Polish king.
My point was to stress that it was the nobility and not necessarily the populace at large.
Polish nobility was the pure representation of the Polish society. They were Poles and as such bring the blame on all Poles. You can`t excuse historical facts pointing at leaders. As if a Nazi German tried to excuse himself that he only carried out orders and that his Fuhrers are to blame. Come on.
You should have started with the Mongol invasions Pawian.
Hey, I could also easily start with German invasions in 11 century.
Come on, there must be some limit to this madness!!! :):):):)
The 2nd Swedish invasion during the Northern War was almost just as destructive, from a political point of view even more so, because it meant that Poland became a Russian puppet afterwards.
Yes! It is going to be my next historical contribution here. Be patient! We still haven`t finished with the first invasion!! :):):):)
pawian
27 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
I am afraid we don`t understand each other now. Read carefully a few of my posts above.
Right. But they weren't particularly loyal to their country, were they?
I am afraid we don`t understand each other now. Read carefully a few of my posts above.
pawian
27 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
But they could at least try at Uscie!!! Fekking cowards! Today I dislike all those nobility/gentry idiots for a good reason. They greatly contributed to Poland`s fall.
OK, you convinced me.
But they could at least try at Uscie!!! Fekking cowards! Today I dislike all those nobility/gentry idiots for a good reason. They greatly contributed to Poland`s fall.
OK, you convinced me.
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
You know fine well that it is URL + 100 words.
Yes, I know. Sorry for that.
But I also know that people tend to be lazy and they don`t click on links to search for more info.
And I know you also know it. :):):)
I promise I will try to improve.
You know fine well that it is URL + 100 words.
Yes, I know. Sorry for that.
But I also know that people tend to be lazy and they don`t click on links to search for more info.
And I know you also know it. :):):)
I promise I will try to improve.
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Both gentry soldiers and their leaders were Polish. And they surrendered. Shame!
Both gentry soldiers and their leaders were Polish. And they surrendered. Shame!
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Yes, that is true, that is why I wrote:
Polish Army at Ujscie was just bunch of local nobles(mass movement), not regular forces
Yes, that is true, that is why I wrote:
Poland had an army which could put up initial resistance and save time to build up better defences.
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Aristocracy and gentry in the Polish part of the Commonwealth were all Polish. Not Jewish, not Russian, not German, not fekking Martian. They were Polish.
Wrong! Poland had an army which could put up initial resistance and save time to build up better defences.
Read about the Battle of Uscie where 14500 Polish troops surrendered to 17000 Swedes almost without fight.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uj%C5%9Bcie
Or maybe rather their disloyal aristocracy, who would betray Poland again and again in the years to come.
Aristocracy and gentry in the Polish part of the Commonwealth were all Polish. Not Jewish, not Russian, not German, not fekking Martian. They were Polish.
and that's why Poland was devoid of defences
Wrong! Poland had an army which could put up initial resistance and save time to build up better defences.
Read about the Battle of Uscie where 14500 Polish troops surrendered to 17000 Swedes almost without fight.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uj%C5%9Bcie
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Read another short article about it, with maps, by American historian: conflicts.rem33.com/images/Poland/Deluge.htm
Its introduction:
Despite the improbable survival of the commonwealth in the face of the potop, one of the most dramatic instances of the Poles' knack for prevailing in adversity, the episode inflicted irremediable damage and contributed heavily to the ultimate demise of the state. When Jan II Kaziemierz abdicated in 1668, the population of the commonwealth had been nearly halved by war and disease. War had destroyed the economic base of the cities and raised a religious fervor that ended Poland's policy of religious tolerance. Henceforth, the commonwealth would be on the strategic defensive facing hostile neighbors. Never again would Poland compete with Russia as a military equal.
Yes, royals on both sides had a bone to pick but it was mainly Polish and Lithuanian gentry who detrayed Poland and surrendered to Swedes in the initial phase of the conflict.
Two columns of Swedish troops made their way across Poland. The first one, under the command of Marshal Wittenberg, marched in the direction of Greater Poland, where on the 25th of July, 1655, the Polish nobles and magnates placed themselves under Swedish protection without a fight. The second column under the command of Pontus de la Gardie, occupied Lithuania, where also without a fight, on the 8th of September, the Lithuanian Prince, Janusz Radziwiłł, Grand Hetman of Lithuania, i.e. the Commander in Chief of the Polish forces in Lithuania, broke the Union with Poland and surrenderead the suzerainty of Lithuania to Carl Gustav, the Swedish King. The nobility of sequentially occupied lands also recognized the suzerainty of Carl Gustav, and even the Royal Polish troops of Hetman Koniecpolski followed suit. In September, again without a fight, Warsaw found itself in Swedish hands, and in October Krakow, defended by Czarniecki fell. The will to fight was absent among the nobility and this in great part decided the initial success of Carl Gustav's strategy.
It is honest to say that Poles can blame themselves.
Fascinating and tragic.
As a Swede now living in Poland.... I'm sorry I had no idea.
Read another short article about it, with maps, by American historian: conflicts.rem33.com/images/Poland/Deluge.htm
Its introduction:
Despite the improbable survival of the commonwealth in the face of the potop, one of the most dramatic instances of the Poles' knack for prevailing in adversity, the episode inflicted irremediable damage and contributed heavily to the ultimate demise of the state. When Jan II Kaziemierz abdicated in 1668, the population of the commonwealth had been nearly halved by war and disease. War had destroyed the economic base of the cities and raised a religious fervor that ended Poland's policy of religious tolerance. Henceforth, the commonwealth would be on the strategic defensive facing hostile neighbors. Never again would Poland compete with Russia as a military equal.
actually it was our leadership that was responsible for wars with Sweden namely the Vasa dynasty who ruled Poland
Yes, royals on both sides had a bone to pick but it was mainly Polish and Lithuanian gentry who detrayed Poland and surrendered to Swedes in the initial phase of the conflict.
Two columns of Swedish troops made their way across Poland. The first one, under the command of Marshal Wittenberg, marched in the direction of Greater Poland, where on the 25th of July, 1655, the Polish nobles and magnates placed themselves under Swedish protection without a fight. The second column under the command of Pontus de la Gardie, occupied Lithuania, where also without a fight, on the 8th of September, the Lithuanian Prince, Janusz Radziwiłł, Grand Hetman of Lithuania, i.e. the Commander in Chief of the Polish forces in Lithuania, broke the Union with Poland and surrenderead the suzerainty of Lithuania to Carl Gustav, the Swedish King. The nobility of sequentially occupied lands also recognized the suzerainty of Carl Gustav, and even the Royal Polish troops of Hetman Koniecpolski followed suit. In September, again without a fight, Warsaw found itself in Swedish hands, and in October Krakow, defended by Czarniecki fell. The will to fight was absent among the nobility and this in great part decided the initial success of Carl Gustav's strategy.
It is honest to say that Poles can blame themselves.
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Yes, because that was the typical result of contemporary wars. Check out 30 Years` War which caused even greater destruction:
So great was the devastation brought about by the war that estimates put the reduction of population in the German states at about 25% to 40%.[53] Some regions were affected much more than others.[54] For example, Württemberg lost three-quarters of its population during the war.[55] In the territory of Brandenburg, the losses had amounted to half, while in some areas an estimated two-thirds of the population died.[56] The male population of the German states was reduced by almost half.[57] The population of the Czech lands declined by a third due to war, disease, famine and the expulsion of Protestant Czechs.[58][59] Much of the destruction of civilian lives and property was caused by the cruelty and greed of mercenary soldiers.[60] Villages were especially easy prey to the marauding armies. Those that survived, like the small village of Drais near Mainz, would take almost a hundred years to recover. The Swedish armies alone may have destroyed up to 2,000 castles, 18,000 villages and 1,500 towns in Germany, one-third of all German towns.[61]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War#Casualties_and_disease
Those are insane population losses. Are they credible?
Yes, because that was the typical result of contemporary wars. Check out 30 Years` War which caused even greater destruction:
So great was the devastation brought about by the war that estimates put the reduction of population in the German states at about 25% to 40%.[53] Some regions were affected much more than others.[54] For example, Württemberg lost three-quarters of its population during the war.[55] In the territory of Brandenburg, the losses had amounted to half, while in some areas an estimated two-thirds of the population died.[56] The male population of the German states was reduced by almost half.[57] The population of the Czech lands declined by a third due to war, disease, famine and the expulsion of Protestant Czechs.[58][59] Much of the destruction of civilian lives and property was caused by the cruelty and greed of mercenary soldiers.[60] Villages were especially easy prey to the marauding armies. Those that survived, like the small village of Drais near Mainz, would take almost a hundred years to recover. The Swedish armies alone may have destroyed up to 2,000 castles, 18,000 villages and 1,500 towns in Germany, one-third of all German towns.[61]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War#Casualties_and_disease
pawian
26 Dec 2012
History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]
Guys, I hope you don`t mind my starting a new historical thread which I have fancied for some time.
The first major destruction took place in 1655 during Swedish invasion called the Deluge. That was the blow that permanently weakened Poland.
You know fine well that it is URL + 100 words.
Guys, I hope you don`t mind my starting a new historical thread which I have fancied for some time.
The first major destruction took place in 1655 during Swedish invasion called the Deluge. That was the blow that permanently weakened Poland.
You know fine well that it is URL + 100 words.
pawian
25 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
Not so fast! You should give Norman invaders more time to become fully English! :):):):)
I had a look at some of Welsh castles.
castlewales.com/caerphil.html
Nice fortresses, indeed. They reminded me of one Polish castle built in that style:
Będzin Castle
Locals think it is too small so they are going to reconstruct the outer walls and towers:
If your thinking of the one Im thinking of,carefull now, you guys might have built it but only coz the english made you and then
Not so fast! You should give Norman invaders more time to become fully English! :):):):)
You mean like Caerphilly Castle which
I had a look at some of Welsh castles.
castlewales.com/caerphil.html
Nice fortresses, indeed. They reminded me of one Polish castle built in that style:
Będzin Castle
Locals think it is too small so they are going to reconstruct the outer walls and towers:
pawian
25 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
Castle in Nowy Wiśnicz, visited last year: polishforums.com/travel-5/traveling-around-poland-photo-stories-personal-52658/5
Castle in Nowy Wiśnicz, visited last year: polishforums.com/travel-5/traveling-around-poland-photo-stories-personal-52658/5
pawian
24 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
So, you are still lying and distorting the truth.
Lie No 1:
1. Nazis confiscated the owner`s property and looted the castle of its valuable possession: tapestries, paintings, books and other artistic items.
2. They devastated most rooms, including the most valuable ones e.g., Maximilian`s Chamber
It is estimated that 90% damage to the castle interiors happened during Nazi times.
Compare:
Konrad`s Chamber before Nazi devastation
During
Today:
Check more photos:
Distortion No 1:
Yoiu easily omitted the fact that the Red Army was stationed in the castle for nearly a year. Do you include it in the times of Polish rule too?
So, you are still lying and distorting the truth.
Lie No 1:
It was confiscated by the Nazis from duchess Daisy von Pless in 1939 and partly changed by the "Organisation Todt" between 1941 and 1945. But these changes didn't affect the stately rooms that much.
1. Nazis confiscated the owner`s property and looted the castle of its valuable possession: tapestries, paintings, books and other artistic items.
2. They devastated most rooms, including the most valuable ones e.g., Maximilian`s Chamber
It is estimated that 90% damage to the castle interiors happened during Nazi times.
Compare:
Konrad`s Chamber before Nazi devastation
During
Today:
Check more photos:
Distortion No 1:
All the damages that make the interiors so disappointing today happened in Polish times. The castle was looted several times between 1945 and 1960. The old castle also burned down in Polish times, and the mausoleum (last resting-place of the duchess) was destroyed too.
Yoiu easily omitted the fact that the Red Army was stationed in the castle for nearly a year. Do you include it in the times of Polish rule too?
pawian
24 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
What I hate most is when intelligent posters lie and distort the history. On purporse or by pure ignorance??
Yuk!
What I hate most is when intelligent posters lie and distort the history. On purporse or by pure ignorance??
Yuk!
pawian
24 Dec 2012
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]
Oh, yes, the slowdown has a positive aspect for you and thousands of people who might desire to buy their own property at last.
At the same time, people who managed to buy properties on credit a few years ago during boom times, must be desperate now seeing how much their value decreased.
I stand to gain from the slowdown if it causes a significant reduction in prices in the still overvalued property market.
Oh, yes, the slowdown has a positive aspect for you and thousands of people who might desire to buy their own property at last.
At the same time, people who managed to buy properties on credit a few years ago during boom times, must be desperate now seeing how much their value decreased.
pawian
24 Dec 2012
History / The restoration of Polish cities from WW2 destruction [123]
Some places haven`t been reconstructed properly and will never be.
Malbork, a town in northern Poland, whose 80% was destroyed during WW2, was destroyed one more time by Polish communists with ugly socialist buildings.
The Old Town in the past
Today
Malbork
Pity.
Some places haven`t been reconstructed properly and will never be.
Malbork, a town in northern Poland, whose 80% was destroyed during WW2, was destroyed one more time by Polish communists with ugly socialist buildings.
The Old Town in the past
Today
Malbork
Pity.
pawian
23 Dec 2012
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]
1500 workers of Fiat car manufacturer in Tychy, Sileisa are certainly going to be affected.
wbj.pl/article-61382-fiat-plans-to-lay-off-1500-at-tychy.html
Fiat Auto Poland (FAP) announced earlier this month that it plans to lay off 1,500 workers at its car plant in Tychy, in southern Poland. The process is due to start in January 2013 and will affect one-third of all employees, as well as Fiat parts suppliers.
FAP's management said low demand due to the economic crisis was behind the decision, as was the earlier decision made to cease production of the Fiat Panda Classic at Tychy.
A production forecast by FAP indicates a reduction in output from 300,000 cars this year to 250,000 in 2013. Management decided that this level of production requires fewer workers.
Pity because it is also going to, like domino effect, reduce demand for teachers of English and other services in the area.
The unemployment is expected to reach 13% at the end of the year.
1500 workers of Fiat car manufacturer in Tychy, Sileisa are certainly going to be affected.
wbj.pl/article-61382-fiat-plans-to-lay-off-1500-at-tychy.html
Fiat Auto Poland (FAP) announced earlier this month that it plans to lay off 1,500 workers at its car plant in Tychy, in southern Poland. The process is due to start in January 2013 and will affect one-third of all employees, as well as Fiat parts suppliers.
FAP's management said low demand due to the economic crisis was behind the decision, as was the earlier decision made to cease production of the Fiat Panda Classic at Tychy.
A production forecast by FAP indicates a reduction in output from 300,000 cars this year to 250,000 in 2013. Management decided that this level of production requires fewer workers.
Pity because it is also going to, like domino effect, reduce demand for teachers of English and other services in the area.
The unemployment is expected to reach 13% at the end of the year.
pawian
22 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
What??? You have already initiated 50 threads and you say you`re lazy???? :):):):)
Bern, the thread was only begun yesterday. Give us some time, I am begging you. :):):):)
But your remark is very accurate. Malbork Castle is grand, indeed.
What??? You have already initiated 50 threads and you say you`re lazy???? :):):):)
Also i cant believe that nobody mentioned Malbork, the biggest castle in the world:
Bern, the thread was only begun yesterday. Give us some time, I am begging you. :):):):)
But your remark is very accurate. Malbork Castle is grand, indeed.
pawian
22 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
David, sorry, they don`t. If you want, start a new thread titled Palaces of Poland. There are many of them.
Bieg and Bern, thank you for bringing Książ Castle up. I have never visited it, must go one day.
David, sorry, they don`t. If you want, start a new thread titled Palaces of Poland. There are many of them.
Bieganski: Zamek Książ is an impressive structure; the third largest castle in Poland.
This is my favorite, although i liked it better before the renovation:
This is my favorite, although i liked it better before the renovation:
Bieg and Bern, thank you for bringing Książ Castle up. I have never visited it, must go one day.
pawian
21 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
Yes! Ruins of castles will also do in our thread!
Panorama
panoramy.zbooy.pl/360/show.html?max=1&p=odrzykon-zamek-maszt-0369&lang=e&t=32
Yes! Ruins of castles will also do in our thread!
Panorama
panoramy.zbooy.pl/360/show.html?max=1&p=odrzykon-zamek-maszt-0369&lang=e&t=32
pawian
21 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
No, I have just started a new thread, give me some time, please, I am begging you......
Very nice choice. I will develop these castles.
Niedzica Castle - looks pretty insignificant but is shrouded in a great mystery. Castle workers don`t want to talk about it with tourists in fear of invoking bad luck on them!
In the post-World War II period Polish newspapers wrote at length about Sebastián Berzeviczy[1] (one of Niedzica's owners) who traveled to the New World in the 18th century.[2] According to a popular legend, he fell in love with the alleged Inca princess. Their daughter Umina[3] married the nephew[4] of an Inca insurrection leader Túpac Amaru II, whose assumed name implied descent from Inca kings. Túpac Amaru was eventually executed by the Spaniards after rebelling against the colonial government. The legend goes on to claim that the sacred scrolls of the Incas had been handed down to his surviving family members.
your missing a few,
No, I have just started a new thread, give me some time, please, I am begging you......
here's a few of my favourites:
Very nice choice. I will develop these castles.
here's a few of my favourites:
Niedzica Castle - looks pretty insignificant but is shrouded in a great mystery. Castle workers don`t want to talk about it with tourists in fear of invoking bad luck on them!
In the post-World War II period Polish newspapers wrote at length about Sebastián Berzeviczy[1] (one of Niedzica's owners) who traveled to the New World in the 18th century.[2] According to a popular legend, he fell in love with the alleged Inca princess. Their daughter Umina[3] married the nephew[4] of an Inca insurrection leader Túpac Amaru II, whose assumed name implied descent from Inca kings. Túpac Amaru was eventually executed by the Spaniards after rebelling against the colonial government. The legend goes on to claim that the sacred scrolls of the Incas had been handed down to his surviving family members.
pawian
21 Dec 2012
Travel / Castles and Palaces in Poland (with pictures) [155]
Wawel Castle in Krakow is the most important in Poland - Polish kings and queens used to reside and are buried there.
Wawel Castle in Krakow is the most important in Poland - Polish kings and queens used to reside and are buried there.
pawian
19 Dec 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Hungarians? [275]
And sent substantial aid during Budapest Revolt 1956....
Yes, it was sort of partitions for Hungary:
The Treaty of Trianon was the peace agreement signed in 1920, at the end of World War I, between the Allies of World War I and Hungary (one of the successor states to Austria-Hungary).[1][2][3][4] The treaty regulated the status of an independent Hungarian state and defined its borders. Compared to the pre-war Kingdom of Hungary (which was part of Austria-Hungary),
Purple - Hungary after the Treaty
And sent substantial aid during Budapest Revolt 1956....
In Return the Poles never ratified the ghastly Trianon treaty. So the thanks are reciprocated.
Yes, it was sort of partitions for Hungary:
The Treaty of Trianon was the peace agreement signed in 1920, at the end of World War I, between the Allies of World War I and Hungary (one of the successor states to Austria-Hungary).[1][2][3][4] The treaty regulated the status of an independent Hungarian state and defined its borders. Compared to the pre-war Kingdom of Hungary (which was part of Austria-Hungary),
Purple - Hungary after the Treaty
pawian
19 Dec 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Hungarians? [275]
Another thing we should be grateful to Hungarians is Polish Hungarian cooperation during the II WW. In 1939 Hungarians refused to allow Hitler`s armies into Hungary (Slovaks agreed and Poland was attacked from the territory of Slovakia by joint Nazi and Slovakian units). About 120.000 refugees, both military and civilians, crossed the Polish Hungarian border after the Soviet invasion on 17 Sep 1939. Most of them moved to allied countries like France and Great Britain to carry on fighting. General Maczek was one of thousands soldiers who made their way to the West.
What did the fascist Hungarian government, politically allied with Hitler at the time, do about it? Exactly nothing. They were so proPolish that till 1941 the low rank kind of Polish embassy was operational in Budapest. With the Polish eagle over the entrance.
When Poles formed their underground, the route through Hungary was one of the most popular ways to escape from occupied Poland to the free world.
Who helped Poles in Hungary? Everybody. The government, the Church, charities, average people.
Thanks a lot.
posasiedzku.pl/news?msg=431388
TBC
Another thing we should be grateful to Hungarians is Polish Hungarian cooperation during the II WW. In 1939 Hungarians refused to allow Hitler`s armies into Hungary (Slovaks agreed and Poland was attacked from the territory of Slovakia by joint Nazi and Slovakian units). About 120.000 refugees, both military and civilians, crossed the Polish Hungarian border after the Soviet invasion on 17 Sep 1939. Most of them moved to allied countries like France and Great Britain to carry on fighting. General Maczek was one of thousands soldiers who made their way to the West.
What did the fascist Hungarian government, politically allied with Hitler at the time, do about it? Exactly nothing. They were so proPolish that till 1941 the low rank kind of Polish embassy was operational in Budapest. With the Polish eagle over the entrance.
When Poles formed their underground, the route through Hungary was one of the most popular ways to escape from occupied Poland to the free world.
Who helped Poles in Hungary? Everybody. The government, the Church, charities, average people.
Thanks a lot.
posasiedzku.pl/news?msg=431388
TBC
pawian
19 Dec 2012
Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]
Reminds me of another member`s thread: https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/life/blame-game-noticed-person-wrong-53830/
When discussing things there, I argued the phenomenon wasn`t so widespread and the OP was mistaken etc etc.
I could be wrong. Avoiding responsibility might be a more popular sport than I thought. For a few months I have seen several irresponsible Poles in action .
The reason is simple: Poles try to wriggle out of being blamed for sth in fear of having to suffer financial consequences.
Reminds me of another member`s thread: https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/life/blame-game-noticed-person-wrong-53830/
When discussing things there, I argued the phenomenon wasn`t so widespread and the OP was mistaken etc etc.
I could be wrong. Avoiding responsibility might be a more popular sport than I thought. For a few months I have seen several irresponsible Poles in action .
The reason is simple: Poles try to wriggle out of being blamed for sth in fear of having to suffer financial consequences.
pawian
19 Dec 2012
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]
If you want to feed this troll, stop talking to it and give it flaki, instead. . :):):):)
If you want to feed this troll, stop talking to it and give it flaki, instead. . :):):):)
pawian
19 Dec 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]
Hey, more patience, please. It took Italians 5.5 years to conclude the Milan crash case. If you want to compare, Smoleńsk case is still 3 years in plus.
This week 4 Russian soldiers are going to appear in Russian court for stealing one of Smolensk crash victim`s credit cards and withdrawing money from accounts.
theepochtimes.com/n2/world/russian-soldiers-admit-taking-credit-cards-from-crash-victim-37045.html
Hey, more patience, please. It took Italians 5.5 years to conclude the Milan crash case. If you want to compare, Smoleńsk case is still 3 years in plus.
This week 4 Russian soldiers are going to appear in Russian court for stealing one of Smolensk crash victim`s credit cards and withdrawing money from accounts.
theepochtimes.com/n2/world/russian-soldiers-admit-taking-credit-cards-from-crash-victim-37045.html
pawian
19 Dec 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]
Polish Foreign Minister is getting impatient. He called on a European Union foreign minister to help Poland retrieve the plane wreckage from Russians.
Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said Monday he asked EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton to formally raise the issue with Russia next week, at an EU-Russia summit in Brussels, concerning the return of the wreckage of the plane that crashed in Russia in 2010, killing President Lech Kaczynski and 95 others.
Since then Russia has failed to return the wreckage. Sikorski said he raised the issue last week with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov but did not get any information from him on when the wreckage might be returned.
Russian Foreign Minister met Sikorski and promised the return but didn`t set any dates:
myfoxphilly.com/story/20360148/russia-says-polish-crash-wreckage-to-be-returned
Poland plane wreck
Polish Foreign Minister is getting impatient. He called on a European Union foreign minister to help Poland retrieve the plane wreckage from Russians.
Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said Monday he asked EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton to formally raise the issue with Russia next week, at an EU-Russia summit in Brussels, concerning the return of the wreckage of the plane that crashed in Russia in 2010, killing President Lech Kaczynski and 95 others.
Since then Russia has failed to return the wreckage. Sikorski said he raised the issue last week with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov but did not get any information from him on when the wreckage might be returned.
Russian Foreign Minister met Sikorski and promised the return but didn`t set any dates:
myfoxphilly.com/story/20360148/russia-says-polish-crash-wreckage-to-be-returned
Poland plane wreck
pawian
18 Dec 2012
History / The restoration of Polish cities from WW2 destruction [123]
Interesting.
Even Coventry wasn`t reconstructed?
Itr seems it wasn`t.
Following the raids, the majority of Coventry's historic buildings could not be saved as they were in ruinous states or were deemed unsafe for any future use, although several were later demolished simply to make way for modern developments which saw the city centre's buildings and road infrastructure almost completely altered by 1970.
Germany and England did not reconstruct their historical centres.
Interesting.
Even Coventry wasn`t reconstructed?
Itr seems it wasn`t.
Following the raids, the majority of Coventry's historic buildings could not be saved as they were in ruinous states or were deemed unsafe for any future use, although several were later demolished simply to make way for modern developments which saw the city centre's buildings and road infrastructure almost completely altered by 1970.