News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


I think we have enough of those already.
And if you think females seeing cases of rape not being prosecuted because the victim wasn't fighting ( when it seems everyone knows by know it's quite common reaction) doesn't add up to the men- female relationship problem? Females being scared of staying 1-1 with a man in case it may be interpreted as consent for sex despite repeated 'no'?

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


No law in Poland takes account of the accused being accused falsely outside of the general penal system. You want to make an exception for rape. That has nothing to do with fairness.
How would you differentiate between false accusations and not having enough proof to prove the rape?
BTW, I do support punishment for false accusations (all of them). The thing is if you repoert what is a crime in your eyes but the police doesn't find enough proof that doesn't qualify straight away as false accusation)
And before you go on how often people have intercourse vs how often they are beaten up let me point out logical fallacy here:
Not every intercourse is criminal. Every theft etc. Is.
If you want to compare apples to apples compare how often people are raped vs how often they are beaten etc.

No it doesn't. It only changes the definition of rape. The prosecution still has to make a case

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


That not, but the problem is between false accusations and the fact there was simply not enough evidence to prove rape.

And judging by the real life situations it's more common for the rape victims to be accused of laying then of guys being falsely accused of rape.

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


A rape? Yes.


And there is no concern that the law in previous form allows rapists to go free?

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]

The same goes for people falsely reporting theft, bodily harm, murder etc.
Why should rape be different?

This new law doesn't change a thing to how reporting rape looks like. There will still have to be investigation that finds proof beyond her words. So why the panic?


The significance of the crime is of completely different magnitude.
And I wouldn't if we didn't have cases making such change a necessity

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


Can get 8 years.

And it's not like this law removes the necessity for proof. It only changes that a women doesn't have to roof she physically defended herself.

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News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


It does as all the false accusations do.
Plus reporting it is non revokable. So once a women reports it - that's it. If she lied she can be prosecuted.


Wouldn't be able to do that idiot (besides if she was underaged)

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


Considering we know about cases when the lack of physical resistance was used to stop the prosecution I would say that yes, this law has a good chance of making things at least a little bit better.


False claims of rape happen already. Why this should make any difference?

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]


And how do they do that? I don't see any protection at all.


Great, and in the spirit of responsibility and accountability we want rapist do their time. Including those that thin that just 'no' is not enough. Or that unconscious women is a good sex doll.
And it needed a bit of tweaking to reflect what is rape.

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Not raping women is work?

Protect us by telling us we can't do things because man may to have to actually not being criminals?

Let's put it this way - while it's wise to keep your possessions secure even if they are not people taking them commit crime.


I want to regulate law so that crime is crime and the criminal faced the consequences.


Sounds like you are a waste of space. Not only and as* but a stupid ass at that.

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]

Someone talking about rape in a thread about rape- who would have thought.


It seems it's men who should learn that lesson first. If they are unable to do that the law may have to make them. Unless of course having sex with an unwilling person is badge of honour in your eyes.

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It is. Thankfully times change.

News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [198]

I wonder where people get that **** from?
Most women find no joy in accusing men of rape. Similarly most men do not want to rape women.

The fact that we simply have to realise that a victim can freeze and not even dream about a physical defence is a well known thing. Yet it's been used as a defence for rapists.

News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [359]


Are you? Because you seem capable only of going on some weird blur of attempts to offend people you disagree with. You used about 100 words and not a single argument.


It's not a civil case. The guilt has to be proven. The evidence responsibility lies on the prosecution.

News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [359]

Having sex without consent is rape. Why shouldn't it be a law?

News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [359]

@Alien

Rofl

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Can you point to any part of the legislation that shows that?

News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [359]


No, all it does is remove the need.for physical signs of struggle and includes not being able to consent.

Non consensual sex usually leaves signs on the genitals that can be examined.
Not having sex with someone who is basically unconscious is a non brainer too imo.



Anal much?

News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [359]


Yes, Konfederacja.

They had about 11% in EU elections.
In the last Polish elections they had 7%

News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [359]

@Korvinus
I would have thought most heterosexual sex is consensual.

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

That is of no significance in this idiom

Feedback / I love this forum - It's so Polish: tolerant, inconsistent, amusing [252]


I likes the green too as it stood out and was easy to use as point of reference.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [67]


The thing is most places want to escape your fixing.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [67]


I don't think you are getting that either anytime soon

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [67]


Maybe. Still unwanted probably though

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [201]


You see, internet is not tailored to your mental disorder.

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [201]


1 - don't know any such thing
2 - even if we assume that is correct I'm pretty sure there would be more people who simply were in relationship that resulted in offspring
3 - this was clearly not the case here but you jumped to conclusions just to be nasty

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [201]

Do your own research.

BTW I assume your kids are not American either?

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [201]


You could have checker yourself since you have such strong feelings/ opinions about it.

Theinfo I have- mom Polish, dad British, moved to Poland when she was a baby. Attended all the levels of education in Poland.

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [201]

Don't you know? You and PolAm are making the statements. I give an alternative to you nastiness.