News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


No dumbass, I clearly said any POLISH CITIZEN can vote... nothing about Polish passports...


and indeed according to CBOS, 3/4 of Poles reject migration from middle east and Africa. They have no problem with migrants from Europe as evidenced by their taking in of a million ukranians. They also don't have a problem taking in people from india because they know they assimilate and are an asset to the country. But random muslim or African migrants? No way, according to 3/4 of Poles sampled by CBOS

politico.eu/article/refugees-europe-poland-follows-hungarys-footsteps-in-corralling-migrants
breitbart.com/london/2017/11/24/watch-polish-government-releases-video-blasting-eu-record-migrant-crisis

watch the video on breitbart - this IS STRAIGHT FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS LOLOLOLOL

That's the difference between EU cucks and Poland - EU cucks like the Swedes and Germans makes propaganda vidoes and pamplets telling migrants its not okay to rape women and how to pick European women up. Poland instead makes propaganda illustrating their stance

The fact is the vast majority of Poles, living in Poland and abroad, overwhelmingly reject migration from ME or Africa to the motherland.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


ALL POLISH CITIZENS - anyone with Polish citizenship is eligible to vote whether he or she lives in Poland or not permantly, or is say a Pakistani who now has Polish citizenship. Such a decision is up to the Polish citizens, of whom 3/4 reject migration from Africa and Middle East.

Yet again EU threatened to fine us 2 bil euro for refusing to take in parasites (misery loves company - solidarity means also having terror attacks and nonstop rapes in your country as of course Germany, france, and Sweden can't be miserable by themselves) and of course failed to. They've since forgotten all about the fine and cutting EU budgets and now timmermans said that Poland will continue to receive eu funds regardless of court changes, refusal to take in migrants, etc. etc.


Polish citizens and the democratically elected government who affirmed that they will not take from ME/Africa, who Kaczynski said carry various protozoa and diseases (i.e. scabies, HIV, etc.) . We don't want em - according to CBOS, 74% of Poles reject migration from ME and Africa and that statistic included roughly half of PO voters

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

@Tacitus

The fact is there have been zero fines issued for refusing to take migrants, zero fines for logging, no threat to eu funds over court reforms, etc. Eu is backpedalling and kowtowing to poland begging them to respect rule of law because they know their article 7 is doomed.

Eu lost every battle and the war as a whole.with poland. It cant be any clearer. Even timmermans recently affirmed that there will be no cutting of eu funds to poland. Eu got pwned

@cms

We will NEVER take in people we dont want in our borders. This is a decision for polish citizens of whom 3/4 a vast majority has said no arab or african migration. We took in a milliion ukranians and we dont want the terror diseases and rapes migrants from me and africa bring with them. Period. We dont want it and the eu is respecting our decision - thats why theyve never fined poland and timmermans affirmed that polamd will continue to receive eu funds till 2020

And yes the euro is qeak (just like eberything else coming from western eu) thats why poland has said it will not implement it and will only do so IF its in a much better position ij the future

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Poland is owning the eu left and right and any person who knows about negotiation can see that. Eu is kowtowing to poland and v4 instead of the other way around. No more threats of fines for migrants, no threats of fines for logging, no threats to culling eu funds bc of court changes, abortion laws, etc. Timmermans and eu leaders even said that poland will continue to receive funds regardless of court changes. Article 7 is doomed. Eu simply cannot afford all these battles on so many different fronts. The eu has more problems with brexit, terrorism, rise of the right, trump, rebels poland and v4, stagnant euro, and so much else.

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For now pis and supporters are enjoying eu kissing both of polands cheeks.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


First off, communism was overthrown a decade and a half BEFORE EU and PRL system was crumbling well before then, and yes, there was plenty of catching up to do in the early 90's, but by late 90's and early 2000's Poland was already in a great place - hence why it was taken into the EU and given more INVESTMENT funds than any other nation that joined in 2004 or at any other time.

And no, in the 90's there were plenty of Mercedes, BMW's, and even a few Maseratis in Wroclaw not to mention Warsaw. My uncle had one of only 3 corvette's in the country and that was in some poor ass little town of 100k people. Plenty of people travelling to and from PL/US/Germany etc. If you can a bag you could do it whether it was PRL, 90's, or today. Although wages were smaller, costs of living were far smaller relative to income than they are today. There's no buying a hectare in the city outskirts or suburbs for $10 $20k today that's for sure.

If we didn't have punks like Kwasniewski and co bringing in brigades of foreigners to buy up assets for way below market prices (which were already far lower than anything in western Europe or even Czechoslovakia)

What the non-Poles fail to realize is that most Poles, namely the conservative types, who allowed PiS to sweep the election and are the reason for PiS having 2-3x the support of 2nd place losers PO, aren't willing to give up their sovereignty and take in a bunch of radical migrants 'carrying all sorts of diseases and protozoa (as our president famously said) nor will they oblige the EU diktates just because it means an extra 11.7 bln a year for the state to spend. Besides, the gravy train is over. We're expected to be a net payee. Better to just leave now than have Polish citizens' money being spent on Ahmed and his soccer team of kids or Swedish cross dressing kindergartens.

And if the frogs in the EU leadership don't keep a muzzle on their migrant loving german counterparts, it's not going to end pretty - and not for PL but for the EU. Each battle EU has picked with Poland they lost - there was never a 2 bil fine for migrants, no 100k a day for bialowierza, their article 7 is totally doomed, and now even timmermans along with 4 other EU nation leaders that Poland does NOT have to listen to any BS about constitutional courts to keep receiving money

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


Of course we did. We owe the EU NOTHING.... absolutely NOTHING... The EU funds, which are less than 3% of Poland's annual GDP, are for further investment - they are not a gift. We don't owe anything more than Germany or Malta or Lithuania does to anyone in EU.

Unlike a bunch of European countries like Greece, Bulgaria, etc, Poles managed their economy wisely and didn't squander funds on stupid stuff even before 2004. The EU funds surely helped, but our decisions were far more important - like not implementing the stagnant euro and weathering the global recession perfectly while Germany, France, UK performed terribly.


The most important thing is to spread facts like that the EU funds are but a miniscule fraction of Poland's GDP and we can easily trade with other nations. We don't need to be beholden to a government institution that Poles never voted for yet tell us what to do inside our sovereign borders. The more EU pushing leftist diktates and asks Poland to take in migrants, the more Poles will be turned off by the EU. Atleast the French dudes in the EU realized their mistakes and have now called for amending their relationship with Warsaw and clearly stated there is no threat to Poland's funds up to 2020. Not the Germans though - they just want everyone to be miserable too. Terrorism, sexual assaults, and constant problems thanks to uncontrolled migration in all EU nations - that's their idea of solidarity.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


Some of their policies are. I'd put it more towards populist though than really socialist.

FOUR European leaders have ordered Brussels to back down from its threat to block funding to Poland over judicial reform, accusing the bloc of favouritism, and of overstepping its boundaries

express.co.uk/news/world/910567/Visegrad-European-Union-rebels-Brussels-back-down-Poland-punishment

PL and Hungary steam rolling right over the commie EU globalists

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


No it wasn't - Poland wasn't/isn't some African or Asian country where the majority of people lived on a dollar or two a day. Even during PRL the average person didn't need for basics like food and clothing. Poland was in shambles after ww2 and in the early prl years - not in the 90's and 2000's. It wasn't as rich as Germany or France but certainly wealthier than Ukraine, Belarus, and roughly equal in standard of living to places like Lithuania, Czechy (slightly richer PPP than PL still but bit poorer than Germany), etc. Plus, many Poles were working in Germany in the 90's just as today especially in agriculture and construction. Almost everyone could afford the necessities of life on a basic salary, even during PRL times, while the more entrepreneurial ones made money outside or even on the system. It was the same in the 90's which considering the change from communism to capitalism was a fairly smooth transformation in Poland which we did without any EU


Still that way today, bank pekao pays mid level managers 6k+ z's less than the foreign competition.

Just because a foreign company is paying more than the local ones does not make a country in shambles. Also, there was trade from Poland to the same exact partners as today - it's not like we suddenly gained these partners. These have been our trade partners since the middle ages when the migrants begging to get into Europe were living in mud huts - and still are to a great extent. And the EU funds are but a miniscule fraction of Poland's annual GDP - under 3% if going nominally (11 bill a year out of nearly 500 bil gdp). Hence it's 97% of it is our successes as Polish people.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Idk why the ukranians esp kiev wsnt to be in eu so bad. They should've learned their lesson with the IMF vultures

Eu is the sick man of europe and everyday the more attacks, terrorism, migrant problems, crime, bad euro performance, an eastern europe inching away, a resurgent russia, the rise of the right conservatives all over europr, donald trump smubbing merkel and macron, v4s rebellion against the eu, brexit all that combined makes rhe eu grow weaker everyday

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Google is your friend use it. Theres numerous articles with those keywords

Eu funds arent even te of polish gdp... between 2014 and 2020 theyll get 82 bil. Thats 11.7 bil eu a year.
Polands economy nominally is nearly 500 bil amd 1 tril dollars is going by ppp. Everyone gets so hung up esp the left oh boo hoo its less than 3% of polands annual economy n were growing faster than almost any other eu country

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

@dolnoslask

Exactly. Neither can we ever allow poland to turn into france or germany where citizens foreign born and not are terrorized everyday

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Yes european refugees lol. Obran indeed said he welcomes all political refugeed seeking to leave terrorism far left western europe.. but yeah regardless this is abour the forest which yes large scale logging is bad but given the vastness of bialowierza the stats show this will hardly have an effect plus it generates revenue in a poor part of poland

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

@Braveheart16

Riiiight except a bunch of top analysts and economists say a polexit would be far worse for eu than even brexit.

And yes obran did publicly state hungary would not vote for sanctioning poland hence veto numerous times to media in press conferences, most recently after the joint pis and obran regime meetings in warsaw prior to timmermans recently folding and saying after a dinner eu funds are NOT at stake and poland will.keep receiving them as planned up to the next budget period without any strings attached - seems the eu just wanted a few peoplr from pis gone but the message ideology and position is the same. Morawiecki even said pl will rechristianize europr and bring the traditions values and culture it was founded upon.

Way i see it pis 3: eu 0

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Poland's land, Poland concern.


Saw baby saw!!!!


I have a team selling your wife and other THOTs and believe me it pays a lot better than a tree sitter


Where exactly in EU rules does it say that? Poland invested all that EU money wisely - UNLIKE Greece and a bunch of other countries. Till the end of this period, EU has confirmed there will be no cuts and Hungary will block any vote to suspend PL's rights. Seems PL's ruling party can keep doing what it wants and the leftist unelected euphiles can't do much aside from threats.... which end up falling through as we've seen time and time again with the migrant issue, with this forest issue (they were supposed to fine 100k day rofl - yet never have... that's because V4 is realizing EU is all bark no bite --Esp Poland and Hungary

Law / Old Polish money banknotes - what's their value today? [415]

old notes from PRL are worthless for the most part. One's from the 20's can be worth $10-$20 if they're in good condition - more if its closer to Poland's formation. There's a few high note (100k zl plus) denominations that are collectible but not worth a whole lot ($20 for silver coin some featuring WW2 Warsaw Uprising or Pope John Paul II). The only old currency that's worth a significant amount $100, $500, $1k plus are old commonwealth ducats, old rare notes from banks (Bank of Danzig or currency from independent Warsaw, etc).

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Yeah that's true - especially in the eastern parts, rural areas and among the very religious older population. Maybe it's a way to show that while they are willing to work with and negotiate with the more liberal EU, they'll still hold on to their conservative Christian principles. I bet most of them don't even really care about abortion all that much one way or another but just use it as a political tool. Maybe they wanted to simply rile up the very traditional Catholic element in their support base. Still though, I think it pushes aside more moderate people on the right in PL. Either way though, their support is now even higher. As of December, PiS is at 44% (estimates range from 40-44% for PiS and 15-17% for PO followed by Nowoczesna and Kukiz with 5-6% each)


That's happened more than once.... They ask for debates, votes, etc yet oftentimes they don't even show up. That won't stop them from going to foreign owned media outlets and using their spin doctors to lambast PiS

Law / Wish to start an Indian Store in Poland [34]

Akik isnt worth much in pl and people prefer amber. Gold and diamonds are very high priced though compared to indian market. A lot of retail gold pieces are only 9k and yet still rly expensive. Youre better off importing those. And it's even more expensive in germany.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Idk why pis keeps pushing this topic... its not helping their female base and it def didnt work well for them literally like a year ago

Sheeeet if i knocked some chick up id be praying shes on the next train to czechy or germany. Ppl need to get over it its not rly a big deal. Civilizations have exercised forms of abortion, birth control hell even eugenics for millenia and still do today. Maybe one day we wonr need abortions for retarded kids thanks to gene sequencing and gene therapy.

History / Historic Polish-Japanese intelligence cooperation [21]

Poland hasnt gave 2 ***** about japan simce walesa said hed turn poland into japan.. he failed... theyre more interested in china atm esp with pis and one belt. Soon well be able to take trains to beijing or shanghai

The toyota land cruiser is a beast. Id take that anyday over the constantly breaking land rovers the un also uses

Work / Business ideas for Poland [63]


100% agree. People are very thrifty with their money. They'll examine a million options before they buy some durable good like a washing machine.

There has been a lot of Asian (Chinese, Korean, Indian, Japanese) goods coming into PL that are selling like hot cakes. I've started an import/export business recently and it's starting to pick up. I'm hoping by the time I move to PL and make that my primary home there will be enough orders and repeat business to make this my main job.

Life / Shipping times from China to Poland [8]

yeah im not worried about my packages getting stolen. ive never had an issue with packages not arriving even when i've send presents like a watch or some gold to family. these packages are mostly welding equipment and some clothes plus there's tracking on them and I bought insurance in case they get lost

up to 3 months is a heck of a long time though.... I wonder if express shipping would reduce that to 2-4 weeks it wasn't too much more. I figured I'd first try it with standard china post to see how long it takes. I've sent a lot of packages from us to and from Poland but this will be my first from china.

Yeah I'm expecting it go to through customs. Back in the day you could ship anything even cars without much inspection. Not anymore though. It's not even like drugs and guns they're after so much it's more people trying to skirt paying VAT at least from my experience.

Work / Business ideas for Poland [63]

Are there a lot of Russians in the tricities?

Life / Shipping times from China to Poland [8]

Thank you for replies. Yea in us it takes anywhere from 2 3 weeks to a month n a half for standard post. I dont think anyone at the poczta will take it though. They have tracking now plus now theyre more concerned avout collrcting every groszy of vat

Work / Business ideas for Poland [63]

Yea but stores like peek and cloppenburg are just as expensive if not more so....

although ive noticed in polish malls you'll have tons of people but very few of them are holding shopping bags. salamander gets decent business too and their shoes aren't cheap. Although most people appear to just window shop and they'll go through the entire mall and buy just like one quality thing for 100-200 z's... especially shoes I noticed theres more shoe stores than anything else in the malls. Its like the ladies almost assume that people are there just to window shop and then when someone buys like a pair of Versace glasses for like 1k z's they're almost like surprised someone actually bought something. Once you've picked something out they're super helpful but till then they tend to treat customers somewhere between ignoring them and allowing them to look through the store before they actually walk up and ask if they can help you.

Work / Business ideas for Poland [63]

Fact. I was honestly surprised though that an armani outlet failed in wroclaw and it carried the lower priced armani exchange too. Real estate and construction are booming in pl now. Thats where id put my money imo if i were gonna start a business. A lot of optical stores do well too from what ive observed.

Work / Business ideas for Poland [63]

@Lucky12345

No one really uses those penny press machines except a few kids whos parents grudgingly give them a few groszy to basically waste. A vending machine business would be okay in parks zoos amusement parks maybe in a train station but they already tend to exist. I could be wrong and perhaps theres some market research on this topic but i havent really seen vending machines used by poles with the type of frequency that they are in us canada or even asia. It tends to usually a last resort for poles for food and drink if no other options are available.

Life / To Poles: some food for thought [31]

@tired

Chopin jp ii copernicus mustve too been ignorant poles...

Take a look around you and yes poland did invade Russia czechy etc and other countries as did every civilization over the past 2k years. Unlike france britain belgium Germany etc we never had colonies where we subjugated the local people and forced them to work or die and steal all their wealth. You need to check your facts. Almost all the wars poles fought were defensive esp since the past 300 years when it wasn't on the map or they had to fight for the partition powers.

Poles yes can be a bit racist. Its because when you have a million people vast majority of whom are economic migrants coming to live off welfare and benefits of course we dont want it. We dont want the terror, the assimilation problems, the rapes, etc. Poland helps people through caritas but has already taken in 1 mln ukranian migrants along witg many chechens belarussians indians pakistanis etc. Even in wroclaw youll see koreans and w africans.

Life / To Poles: some food for thought [31]

@tired

Because Poland's lands, values, culture, traditions, security, etc. are constantly under threat and have been throughout history.

Poles have become more cautious in recent years and millions refuse to accept the failed multiculturalism of Western Europe. Poles simply don't want the terror attacks, the rapes, the PC bs, etc.

News / North Koreans working in Poland and in Denmark [36]

Actually I read the article. Nothing new.... and not a big deal... quite hypocritical imo as NK has hostels and restaurants in Germany and businesses other EU countries. NK restaurants are very popular in China and SE Asia also.

Your 17% figure is extremely misleading as the turnout for both presidential and parliament election was right around 50%. Obviously you don't count blank ballots or count the 50% who didn't participate towards one party/person or other. I could say that the 50% who didn't participate would all vote for Kukiz, or half would vote for PiS, or 1/3 for PO - in any case it's all speculation. They didn't vote so you can only go off the 50% that did. Well, that 50% allowed for PiS to basically take every seat PO lost.

More people in Hungary voted in the referendum regarding migrant quotas. Yet the EU says its invalid. The bogus thing is the migrant referendum had a larger turnout than the referendum for EU entry. Funny how the EU and lefties will respect one referendum, but not another.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015
50.92% turnout - with PiS and KUKIZ15 clear majority - PO receives 15% less share of the votes at 3.7 mil than last election and loses 69 seats in sejm and 34 in senate. PiS gains 8% more share than last election and gains 78 seats in sejm and 30 in senate. Add Kukiz 15 to PiS and you're at over 7 million votes to po's 3.6 mil. Nowoczesna's numbers weren't too far off from korwin.... freakin Korwin lol

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_presidential_election,_2015
48.96% (first round)
55.34% (second round)

News / North Koreans working in Poland and in Denmark [36]

17%? Youre confusing po support for pis which accordong to even wyborcza has well over 40% - double to triple of pos depending on which month, poll, etc youre going by. All of the sources nonetheless agree that pis is far ahead of po.

And yes mfa deals with foreign nationals visas what you need to enter poland customs info etc. All the info is on their website. They deal with threats to poland as well.