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More money will stay in Poland. Poland will be more independent. Countries will more eagerly want to join with Poland in Visegrad and any other future conglomerates, without fear of being subjugated by Vatican.

That for starter.

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@Novichok
@Mr Grunwald

We have to talk of this if we are to create Central-European Union and make it independent global civilization. How else? Tell me, how else? Its question of all of us from Baltic to Balkan. Our question. Just then we can analyze how that affect relations with others.

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Let`s not involve Christ`s Church in this. If Orthodoxy and Protestantism can function without Pope, Catholicisms also can. Christ connects all Christians, not the papacy or any head of any local Church.

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@Mr Grunwald

Wait, where do you think you going? Let us speak how to make Vatican equally powerless as it is Constantinople. Or British prince Charles. You know very well about Vatican`s and Nazi ustashe cooperation during WWII in so called `The Independent State of Croatia.` Anybody can google that.


Go watch movie Dara of Jasenovac. You would see where is blasphemy.


It is also state on its own. Very greedy one, and as such do have its state interests and using all instruments to grab more.

Why would, for the sake Our common Lord Jesus Christ and His venerable Mother, and out common Slavic ancestors, Poland take part in greedy projects of Vatican that are even against interest of Poland?????

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They cooperate. Didn't they allow an air-bridge between Russia and Serbia for weaponry supply? They did. But sure, anybody in Poland would always allow that to Serbs. Great profit for Poland in it in every possible sense.

And don`t forget Polonia and brat Corey Lewandowski that pump money to Bosnian Serbs that are also under the protection of Serbia and Russia, too. We coordinate when important.

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Any potential of Rome to harm must be prevented once and for all and this means the Vatican must be peacefully pacified, deprived of instruments of power. It also includes Rome`s acolytes in Constantinople. And Russia must stop presenting itself as Third Rome. It's sick and must be ended.

And a new calendar must be in use. What Gregorian and Julian? We all have yearly calendars by Rome's genocidal maniacs.

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We Serbs will tell you both, when comes the day. That is how cards are dealt.

Soon.


Maybe no need for quite a union. But first that we survive.

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In a post-Covid world, many things will be changed. Some old evils must cease to represent danger.

So, there are free spirits on the internet that watch vigilant Poland (and all Slavs of Poland) not to find themselves on the line of fire. Call me naive but, I want to believe every voice means something.


I truly don't believe in Internet trolls. It's not how it works. But no doubt some people, good and bad, look very thoroughly at what people think and say. I only hope good guys are stronger.

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Anti-war song by Serbian singer Djordje Balasevic, performance by Serbian children >

> youtube.com/watch?v=YCVdN8wWgV0

Just let there be no war

> youtube.com/watch?v=BJDVMYYf6d4

Children in Serbia and Poland after the WW1 1920 in Color

> youtube.com/watch?v=VRHnEiNF9FY

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No, brate don`t be naive. Vatican is Rome. Size does not matter. Its Rome and still have same instincts and necessity to spread. One soul, one coin. Who refuse, elimination. And Italians? You sow that video about Iliryan (Serbian/Shtokavian area) rebellion and you can read on that. Do you know how many slaves (Sarmatian ie Slavic slaves) was took to the Italy of that time? There is no Italians. Actually, never was. Western Europeans? Its all us. Us but changed by brain manipulation of Rome. Its that world of matrix presented to us that we think there are Italians and western Europeans. There are only our brethren that later got Semitic add on (in Italy). Only those in northern Italy preserved original genetics.

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But I blame us on the first place. We lost this war to the Rome > The Great Illyrian Revolt - Rome's Forgotten War DOCUMENTARY > youtube.com/watch?v=vbvNk-K-KYU

Rome used more then 40 legions (the biggest force Rome ever moved) against us but still, the core of Sarmatia had to endure. That is when, backbone of people of Shtokavian (Serbian) speaking dialect (by linguistic science) of Sarmatians ie Slavs, was broken.

But we recuperated. And our backbone was broken again by the Turks. And we raised. Then AH broke our backbone. And we raised. Then Nazis did its deed. Then Soviets. And we raised again and we stand now. We stand. We are just a shadow of our ancestors but, we would try. Prepare yourself Poland to answer to the call!

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Well, I`m doing fine actually, considering everything. I blame Vatican, that indeed is in the genesis after all.

I hope RCC become PCC, Polish Catholic Church and how things globally develop best would be that we Slavs have Slavic Christian Church.


I want.

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Sins of the Rome and Vatican are famous... genocide, crucifixions of people, inquisition, the inspiration of Teutonic and Germanic genocide on Slavs, Nazi genocide on Slavs, heavy brain manipulation like inventions of wonders, pedophilia, collaboration with Turks, collaboration with communist international, etc.

Yes, Protestant elitism contributed to Nazism, too.

And I don't say Constantinople doesn't have its sins. It has. Ignorance and servitude to the Greeks, for example.

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@Strzelec35

Thanks for your good contribution to this thread.

We do live in an informative era.


to you > youtube.com/watch?v=d_bUvwuDnrQ

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@jon357 Your honesty is segmented.

And fortunately, such talk belongs to the past. People like me will write modern history books, not people like you.

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So, now we speak bluntly. Bottom line.

Do we now establish the same standards for everything that happened to Poland in history? What we put in books for little children in Poland?

We tell them Russians are evil. We don't explain to children what madness was communism and that western Europe penetrated communism to Russia and then Russians became Soviets convinced to speared world revolution? It mixed with traditional feelings of Polish-Russian antagonism that was fueled with hatred due to the interest of foreigners who with sword and fire introduced Christianity to all Slavs. Etc, etc, etc. Then happened Katyn. We don't say that to children?

Then, what we tell Polish children about Rome and Vatican? Do we have the same standards as we apply to Russia?

What do we tell them on Gavrilo Princip? Do we erect a monument to Gavrilo in Poland?

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@Miloslaw

You aren't helpful.

You don't speak the truth. You cant talk of Katyn without speaking of Stalin the madman in the background and he REALLY killed much more Russians than Poles.

If you are honest, you would have to admit that the enormous crime was committed in Katyn and that there was no genocidal ideology behind it but madman Stalin who was not Russian but, YES, ethnic Russians were involved on the terrain. Now, how would Russians correct it, the question is now? See, I ask a question but I try to tell truth, at least a segment of it. By that, I don't add more sh** in the Polish-Russian relationship but helping. I don't close my eyes on the truth but helping exactly with the truth.

And how I know you aren't honest? Because you NEVER mentioned that German genocide on Poels and all western Slavs was inspired by Rome and Vatican. And the same that Vatican manipulated Poles to hate Russians for Vatican's own purpose. Not for the interests of Poles but Vatican and Germany. For Vatican and France.

You NEVER said that in one single move Gavrilo Princip did more for Poland than the Vatican in its whole history.

That is how you need to talk. From genesis. Or if you cant speak from genesis, simply don't speak.

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@Miloslaw
@jon357

Truth is that I have no words. And your stance isn't helpful. Truth must be said. But complete truth. You aren't honest in these talks.

I am the only one on this forum who at least tries to speak of things in their entirety. All others simply took their sides or decided not to tackle things.

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Katyn of course was a mistake. A tragedy.

But just have in mind that the Soviet regime was equally cruel to ethnic Russians as to ethnic Poles. Really was. Stalin even wasn't ethnic Russian, not even Slavic. People were brainwashed. Still, ethnic Russians indeed were involved in crime and Russia must find a way to redeem itself to Poland for this.

Then also, when communicating, people from Poland and from Russia you need to admit the good things each of you have done and also be able to face your own mistakes thru history. For example, the good from the Soviets was to expel Nazis from Poland and the error was to stay in Poland.


Horror. What Germany can do to correct this and many similar things?

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And who were Racowie? Who initiated the Golden Age in Poland and the era of Sarmatism, the Winged cavalry, and husaria?

Even in its weakest stage Serbia was a player, even during Ottoman occupation. Even then, Mitczkiewich`s dream to see Poland free went via Serbs. He knew Serbs are free, Poland is free. Britain feared Serbs to violate the established status quo in Europe if become independent and Germanics feared Serbs would cut their idea to share a border with Turks on Balkan. Russians knew independent Serbs would prevent their isolation. The Vatican knew no way they dominate Europe with independent Serbs in Europe.

In our time, well, just eat popcorn and watch us. We are climbing on the top.

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Not if it leads to balance and peace in Europe. Strings of influence must be well organized so all players have perspective.

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Ill? I would say it's about a little bit of push, a pressure that Germany well deserved. On the other hand, every pressure on Germany from here will always be good for Poland what would in turn also be good for us here.

Germany is finally where needs to be. In the sphere of influence of Central European Slavs.

Even Russia admits it by enabling Balkan Stream that via Poland reaches Germany. See?


Yes, time is that we help them. They need guidance.

GefreiterKania

You still ask yourself how this functions? Let me help you more. One example. You pray Nord Stream never become reality and Germany continues to rely on Balkan Stream (Ukraine Stream anyway won't be functional soon due to age). In other words, you pray Serbs to have a bigger influence on Russia than Germany has.

There Poland becoming a significan partner for Germany and business blossom. At the same time, Poland becoming more important to the Vatican than Germany is and that is in turn good for Serbs. Balance.

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Brate, when Germany arabize just a little bit more even Germans won't like Germany.


But of course. Duda is wise. When Germany crumbles Duda expects a chunk of it to fall within the borders of Poland. So Poland shows its smiling face.

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Why anti-German? Visegrad has a larger purpose.


Yes. Germany is so big and artificial it will implode in itself and then collapse.

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Germany lives that reality. Rather nightmare. Not you of course. You are lucky because you live in Berlin and I am sure you don't look positively on those who are unlucky and live more western. Your paths already differ.

See?


Let's not go into that. Poland has to be even more independent to benefit from all possibilities.

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Visegrad and plus... Circle of interests is clearly viable. Economic, militarily, scientific, cultural, etc. That for starter.


Its not question for me. Write letter to the Pope.

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Even if it has.


That`s what I said. Poland already turning to its ancient money flow from Baltic to Balkan, without waiting Vatican to approve it. Even less waiting for Germany to approve it. Vatican`s strategic aims already clash with vital Poland`s interests. Actually, soon to be asked - what is Vatican?

And spot how Poland spread influence and naturally, that spread of influence even suits Russia. Those are forces that returning balance within Slavic world that Turks and Romans an even Greeks before them violated.

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Let it dissolve and influence ways of it.

But direct military action isn`t even necessary.

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Not anymore and not necessarily. Not in time of weapons of mass destruction. Geo-strategic penalties that Russia pays within Slavic world and globally are already much higher then any gain Russia could get from Germany on the other side. That same Germany makes Russia looks like a fool from Baltic to Balkan.

So, why is that realpolitik? And plus in era when Russia have strategic partnership with China? In a blink of an eye Russia can isolate Germany in any sense and then overrun it. You think Britain and the USA would enter global war because of Germany, you are wrong.


In past was different. Religion had enormous impact on people. Vatican played on Germany while Poland was entirely Catholic. Russia couldn`t trust to Poland and at the same time had to counter-balance general Vatican`s influence that inspired Drang Nach Osten. There was France, too, that had to be contained.

Same reasons why Russia entered alliance with Austria. Plus, Turks were player in Europe/Balkan that had to be tackled in any possible way.

Now is different time. But far from it time of conflict is past. Its naive to tell it.

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@Tacitus

Or you maybe think how you have morbid friendship with Russia? Some sick influence on Russia? You think that, isn`t it? Well Russia will have to choose. Germany or Serbia. Can`t be both.


I am curious what is that power that can manipulate brain of a Germans, former Slavs, to hate those who remained Slavs. What are those sickening schemes? Who are those people? Are they even humans? They have to be convinced they are Gods.