News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]


This is very true.

I'd add that there has always been antipathy among the educated and apathy among hoi polloi and this is increasing. Much of that increase is due to:


which has been overplayed in recent years to the point of becoming off-putting.


These are just rites of passage. An average bride cares more about her dress than the underlying philosophy behind the priest, shaman, minister, imam, houngan or pastor who performs the ceremony.

News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]


Interesting about the time before that. So much of a mythology promoted that the adoption of that particular religion a. happened to the whole country overnight in that year and b. that there was nothing cohesive before.

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1050]

Maybe we can manage it in the week without killing ourselves.

History / Lech Walesa - Happy Birthday! [54]


Experienced what? He had a normal journey like any other traveller.

Why are we writing about it in this thread. It isn't his birthday for a while yet.

History / Lech Walesa - Happy Birthday! [54]


Following airport procedures isn't much to 'survive', is it.

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Law / Where can I check in Poland my company formation status and tax number NIP and REGON? [95]


The name also sounds a bit dodgy. 'Focus' means nothing, is not a surname, isn't anything else - are you sure it's right? What type of business did they say they're in?

Forcus, not focus. Autocorrect...

News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]


All the more reason to close them.

Love / Polish women and fertility [41]


Genes are genes, none are more 'beautiful' or 'ugly' than any other.


Same in Warsaw, very common. Also people who never actually leave home, just have their own room, usually but not always a career and that's it.

Lack of access to normal in-vitro fertility treatment has its effect, plus the small size of apartments not being conducive to large families. And of course the cost of raising kids and the lack of state support for poorer people to have families.

Love / Polish women and fertility [41]


Yes, that and poverty

News / Czechs most liked by Poles! [35]


When I've been in Czech (except Ostrava which has lots of Polish visitors) with Polish friends, they say exactly the same.

History / Kielce Pogrom - new findings by IPN [42]


Exactly. The perpetrators were identified too. Anti-Jewish feeling in Kielce needed little or no provocation :-(

History / Dacians in Poland [18]


There aren't any political implications of Iron Age European history any more. Too too too long long ago...

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]

Most of these are too inarticulate to come up with something new - they just look for the lowest common denominator.


Hatred of 'the other' by essentially rural semi-literate people along with distaste of traders and the "ger orff my laarnd" farmer v. nomad thing that's as old as Cain and Abel. Plus a deep-seated inferiority complex due to being invaded so often and a need to blame others and of course the fascho/hooligan thing is a ready made bit of camaraderie that appeals to uneducated but aggressive young males.


I've known certain Poles blame them for double parking, a loss at football and even the weather. These people are in a shrinking minority though.

A shame it's spread to London, however the demographic of poor, uneducated provincial people (remember the economic and educational elite don't have to go to England to work in Tesco's) who went means statistically there are bound to be a few. The ill-adaption of people like that just encourages sticking together and of course the UK skinheads and their foul 'music' bands have long been idolised by fascists across Europe.

Sad really, but all of them inadequates and not a threat to anyone.

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


They aren't - this is a tiny number of individuals.


Ditto.


Before 1939 there were a surprising number of admirers in PL - their own government was pretty awful too.


Yes, it is weird. But more stupidity and mental disturbance. As I say, a tiny number of troubled individuals, mostly of low intelligence.

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


They think they can get away with it - and they don't realise how closely neo-nazis are monitored in London. Nor how strongly the UK and Poland co-operate on these things.

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


Why would anyone respect someone like Jaroslaw Kaczynski who encourages support from far-right football hooligans whose politics differs very little from the neo-nazi demonstrators who had to be escorted to safety by the police in London?

One thing that people like that hate more than anything is being humiliated - and they were humiliated big-style. serves them right for trying to organise a neo-nazi march through Golders Green and then when they were offered the chance to have it near Whitehall instead actually agreed to go there in the full knowledge that all decent people detest what they stand for and there would be a very healthy turnout of people who are very happy to remind them of that.

History / Kielce Pogrom - new findings by IPN [42]


Nowhere near Kielce and excavated recently.


Exactly. Looks like the OP is trying to shift the blame onto other people, when the facts have been very carefully analysed.

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


The extreme end of the hooligan movement that the ghastly Jaroslaw Kaczynski tried to appeal to. They probably expected crowds of thousands smashing up anything they can, burning out vehicles and ripping up paving stones like their compatriots in Warsaw. In London, as far as the far-right is concerned, that just ain't gonna happen.

History / Kielce Pogrom - new findings by IPN [42]

Indeed - distracting from issues around the election was why the Poles in Kielce did it.

That and a vodka fuelled frenzy.

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


Exactly. First time I've ever had anyone describe The Economist as 'left wing'!!!

But there's a first time for everything...

Great that the neo-nazis, Polish or otherwise, all 30 of them were so roundly humiliated.

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UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


Indeed


Take yer pick: google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=kremln+funded+political+groups+europe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]

Yes. This is nothing new. The Soviet Union used to fund and support all sorts of fringe political groups, and this was occasionally done through Poland.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]

Indeed - and that emblem is on artefacts sale in Warsaw right now as well as existing monuments.

News / When will Poland take on the EURO? [47]


Central banks do print currency - USD is among the worst offenders in the matter of overprinting - and the Euro hasn't gone inflationary fortunately. As for "dropped against all major currencies" it is actually a major currency - the world's second most traded - and its ups and downs over the years have been largely steady and in line with forecasts.

A fall is good for exports though - and great for me ;-)

News / When will Poland take on the EURO? [47]


Exactly - the dollar's fragile and vulnerable to Chinese manipulation and the Euro essentially sound. Sounder yet if Poland, Sweden and the UK eventually go in.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Doubtless true - and there for all to see. Destroying memorials to the fallen just comes across as cheap and mean-spirited, regardless of the geo-politics of the countries involved.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Yet they are important to those regardless of nationality, politics etc. They should be respected unconditionally.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


It's an irrelevance. Memorials to the fallen are above politics, no matter how governments want to exploit them.


Exactly.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Exactly. If one type of monument should be respected, it's war memorials. They aren't about the politics or the politicians, they are about the ordinary men and women (and animals) who lost their lives.

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


Spot on. There are probably grounds for deportation here.