UK, Ireland / Polish drink-driving murderer sentenced to 5.5 years in prison [99]


A poor woman was run over and killed a couple of days ago by a bus driver at the terminus in Nowe Bemowo, in Warsaw. I watched the dashcam footage. She was clearly visible crossing his path, from a distance of at least 30 metres and he just carried on and ran straight over her. Un-effing-believable. The nature of the accidents that occur in Poland are so often completely avoidable, if people just bloody well knew how to drive properly. My husband had driving lessons in both Ireland and Poland. In Ireland he was taught to read the road ahead - you know what I'm talking about Jon, being a Brit. In Poland when he applied that technique, he was SCOLDED by the instructor!! He was told that he should he keep his eyes more or less glued on the bonnet of his car. He was also told to stop checking his mirrors as it would distract him and he'd have an accident!!!!

I remember when learning to drive in Ireland, being taught HOW to watch out for pedestrians. For example, when you're driving in a built up area with cars parked on either side, watch out in particular for vans or higher vehicles which may obstruct your view of the pavement because someone hidden from view by a high vehicle, can step out quite suddenly, so you watch for feet visible UNDER the higher vehicles as you're driving. After a while it becomes automatic. You're watching all parts of the road at all times. That's how you drive.

News / Poland Sports News [1079]

The Normans were very much French. Anyway William the Conqueror was the cousin of the Saxon King Harold, so ......

News / Poland Sports News [1079]

@ Oathbreaker, I think you should read this. It's a long article, but it's worth the time. All the points he makes are very valid.

//polkong.com/driving-in-poland-surviving-on-europes-most-dangerous-roads/

News / Poland Sports News [1079]


Except for road deaths. Some of the most dangerous driving in Europe.

News / Poland Sports News [1079]


I thought as much ..........if you had the experience of playing on an experienced team, even at junior level, you'd have a very different story to tell. A bunch of kids 'having a go' at the rudiments of rugby is not actually playing rugby! Secondary school rugby is played at a very serious level in countries with a tradition of rugby playing.


Probably when the school authorities realised how rough it can get and the serious injuries that can be sustained. I wasn't joking about broken necks in the scrum. Anybody from a rugby playing country will tell you tales of teenagers paralysed for life from rugby injuries sustained in school teams.


Exactly.

News / Poland Sports News [1079]


In what sense, easy?


Rugby? There are ruby teams all over the world.

News / Poland Sports News [1079]


A sport for wusses - all that protective clothing and helmets, lol! Rugby - now that's a game, if you don't mind getting your neck broken when the scrum collapses :(

Travel / Polish people have a weird attitude torwards tourists [82]


No, it's about the hostile approach towards you ...... there are plenty of glowing reports from people who've really enjoyed their Polish holidays, so what conclusion can we draw from that?


Low-life chav stag parties have a bad reputation and rightly so. There's no marked hostility towards English speaking tourists in the general sense.

Travel / Polish people have a weird attitude torwards tourists [82]


I'm not Polish - and if you didn't enjoy your trip, then it is certainly wiser not to repeat it.

Travel / Polish people have a weird attitude torwards tourists [82]


Yes, that would be best.

Life / Are you happy in Poland as an immigrant? [13]


It is actually.

20 grand brutto on B2B is not unheard of, but netting over 20 grand per month especially while still in your twenties is very rare indeed, even in Warsaw.

Life / Are you happy in Poland as an immigrant? [13]

Lol! The post has troll written all over it hasn't it?

Life / Are you happy in Poland as an immigrant? [13]


With a bit of trolling on the side :)

'Young' software devs don't earn that kind of money in Poland and certainly not 'young' ones.

Life / Are you happy in Poland as an immigrant? [13]


What branch of IT are you in?

Real Estate / Buying a 'Surowy Otwarty' House [3]


Yes, the law requires it so you do need a translator - but you don't need a solicitor :))


A solicitor is not required for property transactions in Poland. People normally use a notary. The notary is sometimes a solicitor too, but not always. There is a fixed fee for notarial services whereas a solicitor can charge you for bells and whistles including arranging the translator which you can easily do yourself. The fee for the notary for properties up to a million zloty is PLN 1010 + 0,4% on the excess above 60 000.

The buyer usually pays the notary's fees but they can be shared ;it's up to you to come to an agreement about that with the seller. You need a 'sworn translator' which you can obtain either from an agency or just google for one in the area where you live. You need to have them translate the contract of sale for you. They will usually want to see the contract a couple of days before the handover so they have time to look over it. They will charge you extra for preparing a written translation of it. Even if you have the English copy of the contract the translator also needs to be at the notary's office when you sign the contract.

It's a completely different process to Ireland or the UK where buyer and seller have their own solicitors and they represent your interests. In Poland, the role of the notary is simply to legalize the transaction and that's why buyer and seller simply use the one notary. He does nothing really except take the necessary documents from the seller, draw up the contract of sale and witness your signatures to it. The seller has to supply a document to him from the appropriate authority confirming that there is no outstanding debt/mortgage on the property but that's really the limit of the 'search' and he doesn't carry it out himself.

I've never bought a raw property but I googled it po polsku and here's the translated info I found:

When buying an unfinished house, make sure that it is a legal investment. So let's check that all building permits and the ownership title to the plot are valid. We should also make sure that the dimensions, location of the building, window openings, as well as the roof slope correspond to the formal and legal procedure for this construction. We can compare the actual state with the formal one by electronic means. For this purpose, we need to dimension the house, photograph it (from all sides) and, using the e-office procedure, send it to the appropriate department. To such an official inquiry, we must attach the numbers of letters that the seller presented to us. For the investor, the most important thing is whether the seller has not indebted the construction, e.g. with a bank loan based on a pledge of land - unpaid debts are charged to the buyer.

I would say it's worth getting a surveyor and perhaps he can also advise you about the documents you should be seeking in relation to being sure that all the correct permits etc were obtained for the building.

Btw, I remember your first posts here a while back. Hope life in Poland is going well for you :)

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]

Usually in the very first post they make :)

The response they get largely depends on whether the forum members decide to give them the benefit of the doubt or we're in the mood for a bit of amusement at the troll's expense, so engage in a bit of batting back and forth and enjoy watching them dig themselves ever deeper into the troll hole.

Actually, we could do a kind of academic analysis of a typical troll's first post and how they set up the scenario. Your man's OP is a classic. It has all the tried and tested, seasoned troll basics which they learn in the various trolling academies :))......... graduated **'cumlaude' from the National Academy of Trolling, majored in Baiting etc.

** had to make that one word because algorithm for this site was obviously designed by Puritan.

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]


Ok, that proves it beyond doubt. Definitely a troll! Thoughtful, considerate Polish drivers noticing your foreign plates and tip-toeing through the tulips around you. That's a lol moment!


That's a very different story to the one you told in your first post.


It now seems that contrary to what you said originally, you had a wonderful holiday in Poland except for a single incident in one town, for which you are at least 50% responsible due to your own behaviour. Poles generally don't like unconventional/non-conformist behaviour. Eccentricity doesn't go down well with them and sitting in a tub, in a shared bathroom for two hours in the middle of the day counts as weird, not to mention rude and selfish - and do bear in mind that the people here who initially pointed that out to you are not even Polish.

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]


So tell us about the rest of your holiday then. And pray, do tell, about how the driving experience compares to the Netherlands.


He certainly isn't American nor does he live there - nor indeed Cuba or Mongolia.

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]


In that case, most normal people would snuggle down under the duvet, especially on a wet day, and make their phone calls from the comfort of bed - not sit in a tub of water for two hours.


Ironically, most of the people who responded to your post aren't even Polish.

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]


Here's a list of suggestions:

1) He's a nutter.
2) He's a 'smoker'.
3) He's a troll.

Or perhaps a combination of all three.

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]


Don't be ridiculous. What sort of a nutter sits for two hours in a bathtub, continuously letting the water out and topping it up again. Still I suppose Dutchmen are known for smoking a lot of the old Mary Jane.


Steady on now! That's stretching it a bit :)) They can be quite brusque to downright rude, but no more so than many other nationalities. Equally they can be very pleasant. Actually, I find the older generation 50+ often have better manners and social skills than the younger ones.


They're atrocious. Not a myth, a fact backed up by stats. Most dangerous roads in the EU. They have an appalling record for road deaths per 100,000 people.

Travel / Had the most unwelcoming experience in all my travels in Poland, very unfriendly people. [115]


So you travelled to Poland by car? I'm surprised you didn't mention your driving experiences in Poland ..........


Are you sure you don't mean chilly? Two hours in a bath - the water would be stone cold and you'd be shrivelled up like a prune. I don't know of any sane person who'd spend their holidays wallowing in a tub of cold water.


What about visiting some sort of indoor attraction? Or if you're a bit of pleb (look that one up in your English dictionary), you could just go to a shopping centre and gaze in wonder at the shops, topped off with sitting somewhere having a coffee and watching the world go by.

Study / Studying Medicine in Poland with weak Polish? I speak native Slavic language - Macedonian [10]


Yes, sorry, of course. I should know that one too because I had a really bad dose of Streptococcal tonsilitis years ago when living in Warsaw, and it was diagnosed as 'angina'.

Study / Studying Medicine in Poland with weak Polish? I speak native Slavic language - Macedonian [10]


Not in Poland it doesn't. At least there may be some terms derived from Latin but not all by any means. One of the class examples is the term 'angina'. In English 'angina' is a heart condition, 'angina pectoris' is the full name, it basically translates as chest pain. In Polish 'angina' is the common cold and is pronounced 'angeena'.

Realistically you can't expect to study anything at third level with weak command of a language.

Law / What happens if you don't pay alimony? [4]


Not in Poland there aren't, so why bother mentioning the USA? Even if he leaves Poland and lives elsewhere he is still liable for the payment of child support under Polish law.

@Saffalack, if an order for 'alimenty' has been made by the courts, you need to pay it. If you disagree with the amount, you can bring a case and appeal it but keep paying in the meantime or you will not be well received by any judge if you DO lodge an appeal - and you will have bailiffs (komornik) on your back at some point. If there is no order for support and your wife is simply expecting you to pay something, she has every right to expect that of you, both morally and under the law. However, if she is being greedy about the amount, then simply give her a figure you feel is affordable for you and fair to the child. Make sure that you have some proof of payment. Give her the money via bank transfer each time and use the reference 'child support' so that you can produce it in court as proof that you are meeting your responsibilities.

Law / How do I verify a Polish company's existence? [240]

They certainly exist though people don't seem to enjoy working for them much. But yes, they are an actual company.

gowork.pl/opinie_czytaj,837393

They seem to have been around quite a long time, since at least 2008.

przetargi.egospodarka.pl/kto-wygral/14207916,stamed-sp-z-o-o.html

If you want to do business with Poland you'll need to learn how to use Google and Google Translate effectively. You won't always be able to find quick answers on forums and although a certain amount of information is available in English, you'll find out a lot more if you use Polish.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Whip on a frock and a bit of lipstick and Bob's your uncle - or in this case Fanny's your aunt. After all if it was good enough for old J Edgar it'll do for you. My heart rejoices for you, Lady-Man.


Tell me now Novi, me old china, - bit of Cockney lingo for you this time, I run the full linguistic gamut - who are these tyrants et al who are attacking Lukashenko?


Why are you pretending to be interested in their names? If you wanted to know them, they're widely published in all mainstream news sources.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Steady on there me old fruit - I didn't claim that. I just said it was a possibility. It's equally possible it was just a bunch of random murdering scum.


Well, one might suggest that successive governments bear some responsibility for the mess we call the USA. It's interesting though that coming as you do from a seriously compromised and failed society, you don't see anything that appalling or unnatural about a crime of such violence being perpetrated as a result of a minor confrontation.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your stupidity is an affectation.


How do we know that? We don't know the identities of the men who beat the unfortunate guy to death. Anyway let's wait and see if the Belarussian authorities track them down and prosecute them - but then of course they could just put anyone on a show trial, it doesn't have to be the guys who actually did it. Or indeed the guys who might have been paid by the authorities to do it as a 'nixer' (bit of Dublin slang for you there) may be the ones 'on trial.'


Yes, governments are very good at doing that, either benevolent or malevolent.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Why not? During the Spanish civil war, people were fed to the lions and I know that to be a fact.


Actually, he's probably one of their seniors ;) The really clever ones masquerade as complete eejits :))

It's extraordinary though isn't it, to think that people would be making light of what's going on in Belarus. You notice that people who defend such regimes usually do so from the freedom, comfort and safety of the democracies they supposedly despise - you don't see them moving to Belarus, do you?