Food / Kefir drink in Poland [79]


Poland was declared free from bovine TB in 1975 and from brucelosis in 1980. The EU officially acknowledged Poland being free from those diseases in 2009 (decision 2009/342 and decision 2009/600).

16 EU countries (BE, CZ, DK, DE, EE, FR, LV, LU, HU, NL, AT, PL, SI, SK, FI, SE) are free from the former ...

.... and 18 (BE, CZ, DK, DE, EE, FR, IE, LV, LU, LT, NL, AT, PL, RO, SI, SK, FI, SE) from the latter.

Food / Kefir drink in Poland [79]


The best ones are those made by Klimeko (joghurt, kefir, śmietana 12%, 18%,30%, don't know about the milk) which in Warsaw are available in the "Organic Market" stores (at Złote Tarasy, CH Reduta, CH Wola Park and some other CH's). They are more expensive, but definitely better.

History / Origins of Polish Slavs [139]

That's very interesting. The historical border between the Serbs and the Greeks as shown on your map could in a way justify the sensational hypothesis as outlined in my thread:

Sensational : the biblical Philistines - were they Slavic people?

Living so close to the Aegean Sea as shown on your map, those "Serbs" could have been the mysterious Sea People invading parts of Middle East in the Bronze Age. However, it is not clear what age your map showing this border refers to. I suspect it refers to a much later period, however.

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]


'Szlag' will hardly be used in anything but nominative.

If I were to use it in accusative, I'd choose an animate form however: "Przypierdzielę ci zaraz szlaga".
Compare with "Daj mi zaraz szluga (animate)".

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]

Good grief! You're right. It seems I confounded the verb "spell" with the verb "pronounce". One reason is that English is not my first language after all, the other one is that I would have never thought someone could ever write "szlak mnie trafi" since 'szlag' and 'szlak' are so different in meaning!

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]


And it is spelt correctly. Pronouncing K in 'szlag' in the phrase "A niech to szlag trafi" would sound comical irrespectively of the fact that 'szlag' comes from the German language.

The general rule for the pronounciation of voiced consonants in Polish is that they become voiceless if followed by a voiceless consonant or if the are followed by nothing at the end of a word (a phenomenon called 'ubezdźwięcznienie'). There are, however, exceptions to this general rule and most notably in the małopolski and wielkopolski dialects.

Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]


Slovene is not West Slavic, Slovakian is. A typical American thing: mistaking Slovenia for Slovakia.


No, you are kidding me. How could a woman living around the year 2000 BC have Russian or Ukrainian ancestry

Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]


I've tried to, but didn't find any such theories.

Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]


And what theories are floating out there?

Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]


On what basis are you building a theory that Slavs are a "culture group akin to Celts"?

News / President Duda rules out homo marriage in Poland as banned by the constitution [172]


That has crossed my mind, too. Most people in Poland, including the gay people I should think, would not pay that much attention to gay marriage and even a lot less to what "that cat Duda" said or didn't say about it. The position of president Duda on gay marriage has been known for long and his other words on this do not excite anyone except Polly. Possibly there is a small percentage of the gay people who will insist on gay marriage and these are probably activists only. In my view, there are two possible explanations why Polly gets so involved. One is that he has indeed surpressed his desire for gay sex. The other, however, is that he tries to provoke Harry with it knowing that he will inevitably respond. But that may in turn lead us to a question why Harry gets so involved.

How are you getting on in Czechia, Roz?

News / President Duda rules out homo marriage in Poland as banned by the constitution [172]

Same-sex marriage is of course silly and completely out of sense, but same-sex couple partnership should be allowed in a civilised country. Does "that cat Duda" understand it or not, do you think?

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]


Yes, ENTIRETY and not "the rest (residue and remainder) of the estate"



It should be 'bratanka' rather than 'bratanica' as he puts both names in the genetive. Or if the nominative is 'brataniec' (archaic for 'bratanek' which form Łyżko may indeed have in mind), the genetive form would be 'bratańca'.

And who is 'synowiec' as it appears in "Pan Tadeusz" by Adam Mickiewicz?
Te groty przywiózł w pakach gotowych z Królewca
Pod sekretem; weźmiem je, zaraz zrobim drzewca,
Szabel nam nie zabraknie, szlachta na koń wsiędzie,
Ja z synowcem na czele, i jakoś to będzie !"

History / Royal Family still in Poland? [79]


These are indeed the five still living "old prince" families of the Grand Duchy whose original Lithuanian titles were confirmed by the Sejm of 1569 in the Union of Lublin Act.

But several families were also recognized as "prince family" later by the subsequent Sejms. The Lubomirski family, for example, were granted the title of prince by the Sejm of 1682 and the Sapieha family on the Sejm of 1768.

History / Royal Family still in Poland? [79]


I was also wondering whch part od this information is inaccurate?

History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]


You better tell me what you are! Are you someone who left Poland in search of comfort and a better life abroad? I am someone who have been staying here all his life and has been coping with the Polish administration accordingly, dude!


Their "internal workings" are often very very regrettable. Some days ago my mother's prescription was refused to be taken in by an apteka on the petty grounds that the doctor prescribed six refunded items instead of the maximum five allowed. Several days before that happened I read that tens of thousands of prescriptions were issued in 2016 by doctors who were dead or for patients who were dead at the time of issuing the prescription. Smooth and streamlined administration - that is indeed something to ponder upon in Poland, my dear Iron!

History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]


I think the Slavic countries (with the exception of Czechia and Slovenia perhaps) are all too young to cope with the effective administration and logistics of of their own countiers, not to mention the administration and logistics of a union.

Although things have been improving a lot for the last 25 years, they are still lagging behind in comparison with the so-called old Europe countries.

History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]

The Slavic Union is a kind of dream which will never come true. There has never been a union of Germanic nations, neither has there been a union of 'Romanesque' countries. All the 'partial' Slavic unions that existed so far have eventually failed and disappeared from the earth.

Language / Nice Polish phrases to say to men [76]



"Przez" is definitely correct and more elegant, whereas "na" tends to be colloqial in this context. IMHO.

Perhaps more Poles would prefer 'na' against 'przez' here, perhaps not. My view is most of them would say 'przez' in this particular couple of sentences translated by Wulkan.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Does 'Zermatt', the name of a Swiss town, originate from the name 'Sarmat'? Just asking ...

Po polsku / Szukam / Poszukiwani [25]

Aha, to jest ten górnik z kopalni Bytom?

Jo jestem górnik z kopalni "Zabrze". Jo się Wos pytom gdzie jest ten górnik z kopalni "Bytom"?

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]


And which genetic markers tell you so?


The German (or in fact Germanic) past is clearly visible in the history of Silesia. The germanization of Silesia was a long-time process and not so obvious as you would think. Many parts of Lower Silesia were inhabited by the immigrants from the West, not only Germany, but also from The Netherlands or Belgium who should have been naturally polonized in the course of history, but instead these were the Slavic people of Silesia who have been naturally germanized in the Middle Ages as a result of this immigration. The main cause for this process taking place was the policy of Henry the Bearded [Henryk Brodaty, Heinrich der Bärtige] (1170 - 1238) aimed at separating people of the immigrant villiges from the people of the local, Polish ones.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


It was my first thought that the word is of some "exotic" origin. 'Czahor' sounds quite strange as Slavic-Polish and what immediately came to my mind was the word was of some eastern (Scythian, Iranian) provenance.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

According to prof. K. Rymut, the surname Czahor is based on the verb "czohrać się/drapać się"

Law / Old Polish money banknotes - what's their value today? [415]

Get rid of it please.

Feedback / Would you favour a free and open PF where people could post under their real names? [55]


So how can you see them, you the little Harold who hasn't grow up yet?

Feedback / Would you favour a free and open PF where people could post under their real names? [55]

You should provide a link both to yours and Polonius3's accounts on FB, then we shall be able to compare these two to know if what you are saying is true.

Feedback / Would you favour a free and open PF where people could post under their real names? [55]

Fancy him or not, but you do remember, Dolno, that every time someone mentions little case's real name on the forum they get suspended or get a warning and this real name of his is immediately erased even if littlecase claims this is not his real name. Strange, isn't it?

History / Sensational : the biblical Philistines - were they Slavic people? [8]


They were a 'non-entity' in Central Europe according to one theory (allochtonic one). But even if they arrived and settled on the territory of the present-day Poland and Eastern Germany in that famous 6th century (500 - 600 AD), they must have come from somewhere. And they would have lived there and speak some language and thus they would have came along with this language which may be called the Proto-Slavic language today. And it is exactly this ancient language which the authors of the paper claim to be the language of that ancient Philistine inscription dating from the 12th century BC..

If that were true, it would be totally sensational from the Slavic point of view. The text could be the first ever known script of the Proto-Slavic language, but of course, more texts and among them longer ones is needed to confirm this intriguing discovery.

History / Sensational : the biblical Philistines - were they Slavic people? [8]

More details now on the deciphered ancient text:

It reads: [L]*IUDI PADI PA WEDIMI (* Possible lost letter on the right of the inscription)

LIUDI - Gsl. subst: people;
Bos. Люди-people; Cro. Ljudi-people; Mac. луѓе-people; Pol. Ludzie- people; Rus. Люди-people; Ser. Људи-people; Slo. Ljudj-people; Slov. Ľudia.-people; Cze. lidé- people; Ukr. Люди-people.

PADI - Gsl. verb in imp. tense: come!;
Cro. Dođete-come; Mac. Oди-come; Slo. Pojdi-come; Rus. Поди- come; Ser. Дођи-come; Ukr. Піди-come.

PA - Gsl. pre.: on, in, at;
Bos. Po-in, on; Bul. По-in, on, at; Cro. Po-in, on; Lit. po-in, on, at; Pol. Po-in, on, at; Rus. По-in, on, at; Ser. По-in, on, at; Ukr. По-in, on.

WEDIMI - Gsl. v. pres. tense, 2nd plur. pers.: we see;
Mac. видиме-we see; Bul. ние виждаме-we see; Cro. Vidimo-we see; Rum.Vedem-we see; Rus.мы видим-we see; Ser. Видимо-we see; Slov. Vidimo-we see; Cze. Vidime-we see; Ukr. ми бачимо-we see.

From the above spelling and its interpretation, the consequent translation of the inscription is: People come in, we see, or in loose translation: Come and see. Probably, the inscription was an invitation to the public to dis-cover and/or to ta ste the content of the jar.

Abreviations: Bos. Bosnian; Bul. Bulgarian; Cro. Croatian; Cze. Czech; Gsl. Generally Slavic; imp. Imperative; Lit. Lithuanian; Mac. Macedonian; Pol. Polish; pre. Preposition; pres. Present; Rum. Rumanian; Rus. Russian; Ser. Serbian; Slo. Slovenian; Slov. Slovakian; Ukr. Ukrainian; v. Verb