History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


It's not about a political system but about total depravity of man. It is, by and large, a theological question not a political/economic one.

Of course, in certain conditions and countries men are allowed to indulge in the sinfulness of their wretched hearts more than in others, and that was the case in Poland. Let's not forget that Polish nobles were in overwhelming majority members of the apostate popish cult, so being deprived of proper religion they allowed all their worst faults to flourish.

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


As I said, a couple of spoonfuls of honey in a barrel of tar. For every one of your Zamoyskis and Stadnickis we could find ten others who were thieves, traitors and warchołs. If this hadn't been the case, Poland wouldn't have lost independence for 123 years and regained it only in very favourable historical conditions, when even dwarves like Latvia or Estonia were declaring their independence.

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


Zamoyskis might have been a spoonful of honey in a barrel of tar, but as a social class in general nobility were a disgrace.


Pity indeed.

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


I think I will join Milo in my lack of reverence for "old Polish nobility".

The nobles, not necessarily the ordinary szaraczki but especially those from grand old families were the worst scumbags of all. They exploited peasants, blocked all the attempts at reforming the country, defended their overblown privileges, broke Sejm sessions, started rokosz rebellions etc. etc. In simple Irish terms - they were c*nts of the first order. It was their selfishness and greed that eventually led to the downfall of Poland and her disappearance from the map of Europe for 123 years.

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


Especially if, in case of Poland, you skip November and January Uprisings - such momentous and national mythos-creating events; as well as 123 years of struggling to regain independence, then the Polish-Soviet war, the 2nd Rzeczpospolita period (which, believe it or not, still influences political life in Poland today), the September Campaign, WW2, Home Army, Volhyn massacre etc. etc. Why would anyone seriously interested in Poland's history decide to do it? Strange.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]

The most common definition of genocide is "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group". Hence, "cursed soldiers", as opposed to UPA, cannot be accused of genocide. They never aimed at destroying an entire nation or ethnic group in a given area whilst UPA did exactly that - they conducted orderly and regular ethnic cleansing, acting on orders of their leadership.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]

But I'm not accusing the whole Ukrainian nation of anything - merely pointing out the difference (not only in scale) between the actions of UPA as a whole, and actions of particular "cursed soldiers" units who weren't under Home Army command.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]


By eskimos or aliens from outer space, I suppose. :-/


It's irrelevant. UPA leadership made the decision to conduct ethnic cleansing of Poles and units under their command conducted the genocide. I already explained the difference between this action and "cursed soldiers" crimes in my previous post.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]


It's not merely a difference in scale but also of politics.

The genocide of Poles was a political decision of ethnic cleansing, made by Ukrainian leaders and conducted ruthlessly and systematically on civilian population, whilst criminal acts of "cursed soldiers" were individual decisions of particular unit commanders - they weren't under Home Army command any more; as you surely remember, Home Army was dissolved on 19th January 1945 by the order of general Leopold Okulicki and any units who disobeyed the order and commited crimes against civilians after that date brought the disgrace and shame only on themselves.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]


... and even, on many occasions, Polish civilians. They didn't, however, conduct a mass scale genocide on civilian population, that's the difference.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]


... in their government unfortunately (this Melnyk guy is a typical Bandera apologist). They also have streets and stadiums named after them as well as monuments all over Ukraine. I know they are a minority, but unfortunately a very vocal minority that is not only tolerated but also cherished on a political state level. That's the problem.

Off-Topic / East Europe's Wild Nature - flora and fauna (zoological thread) [24]

Disgusting.

They are even worse than Banderopithecs, because they had the privilege and luck of being born Polish but rejected their heritage by joining the ranks of nazi humanoids.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

So? Where do you see any "support for RuSSist Mongols" here, you idiot?

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

@pawian

Show me one, just one, post in which I "support RuSSist Mongols" or shut the f*ck up, retard.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]


... yes, it's amazing that there are people willing to publicly calumniate their own country abroad and act against it on the international level, just so that they can get back to power. They don't mind Poland as a whole - ordinary people - suffering because of their actions, as long as they can hurt their local political opponents. That's simply unimaginable level of skurwienie.

News / The Baltics states rely on Poland as their main defender against Russian aggression?? [213]


Well, there certainly is a grain of truth in it. Poland is still sanctioned by the EU, and our funds are blocked under idiotic phony excuses, whilst we provide disproportionately high humanitarian, material and military aid to Ukraine. Russia attacks and weakens Ukraine, whilst the EU attacks and weakens Poland - a tandem work.


Germany always needed Russia's resources to dominate Europe and their approach never really changed (merely the methods). Scholz's recent willingness to get back to business as usual with Putin (if the KGBist liar promises to be nice) only proves that.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

@Tacitus

So what's the story with German Federal Constitutional Court and the primacy of European law over the German one? Please, do tell.


Since you are not interested in a civil discussion but insist on ad personam insults, I shall not discuss with you.

Something wrong happened to you, Pawian, and you became an "all-knowing", condescending twat. Until you change your boorish manners, don't expect cultured people to talk to you. :)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]


Not "did happen" but "has been happening". Ever since the leftard EU "elites" decided that it would be a good idea to "starve" Poland, as Frau Katarina Barley - Vizepräsidentin des Europäischen Parlaments, so charmingly said. And, of course, the lies concerning Poland have been spread with the help of local useful idiots. :)


German Federal Constitutional Court would beg to differ, nicht wahr? :)


You're so naive, Tacitus, it's almost charming. Almost.

If it was so easy to get rid of mafia-like structures, just by waiting for the mafiosos to retire, there would be no active mafias in the world left. :) They would all just retire and all mafias disappear after 30 years or so. :)

As for Poland being forced to leave the EU under the leftard pressure, well... it might happen. Quite likely. Whether it will be beneficial for either Poland or the EU is a completely different matter altogether.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]


How is the rule of law violated in Poland? Which treaty was broken? As far as I know the infringement procedure against Poland was about the functioning of the new disciplinary regime for judges (the Disciplinary Chamber of the Supreme Court) and not about the way of appointing Constitutional Tribunal judges. In any case, in Poland Polish law takes precedence over laws coming from Brussels (just as it is in Germany, isn't it?), so the treaties will have to be adjusted/renegotiated or revoked altogether. Polish law must take precedence over Brussels law or we are not an independent country anymore.


'Analogus' doesn't mean 'the same' - it means similar or comparable in certain respects. The differences stem from the fact that Poland, as opposed to Germany, never conducted a verification of post-communist judges and it led to enormous pathologies within the judicial system. To cut the long story short, any reform of corrupt judiciary would be impossible without new, not entangled in old mafia-like structures, Constitutional Tribunal. Hence the way the judges were appointed. What looks from the outside like creating an autocratic system is merely an attempt at much needed reform of the judicial system. It's difficult because the rot was allowed to spread for too long.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]


Nonsense. I explained it here on numerous occasions.

Brussels has no business meddling in a member state's judiciary, and the solutions that PiS proposed are analogous to German judicial system. As I said, phony excuses and an attempt to hostile forcing of government change. It doesn't look good, Tacitus. Doesn't look good at all.

News / The Baltics states rely on Poland as their main defender against Russian aggression?? [213]


Funnily enough, PiS was willing to closely cooperate with Germany/France in European arms manufacturing projects, but when the EU decided to force the government change in Poland by financially "starving" us, as the EU-Vizepräsidentin Barley so charmingly said, PiS turned to the US and Korea.

It's a pity that EU's ideological bias and cultural neo-marxism stood in the way of closer European defence cooperation. Angry leftards should really be removed from positions of power - they are destroying the Union. :(

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]


Even if we put the question of reparations aside (as it probably should be done), there is also the issue of blocking the EU funds for Poland under phony excuses.

Of course, PiS have only themselves to blame, as they idiotically agreed to the conditionality mechanism, but these issues are much more pressing and should be settled first to show the good will of Germany and willingness to realistically help Poland. The millions of Ukrainian refugees that Poland accepted apparently don't count as much as the German desire to enable government change in Poland. That's what makes the entire Patriot batteries issue seem secondary and insincere.

Maybe, after the elections, the current opposition leaders will be able to clear this mess. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Po polsku / Karma zawsze (zwykle?) wraca - przykłady z życia [62]


Ten cały POPiS jest jak pierogi - połowa ruskie, połowa leniwe. :)

Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]


What? As far as corruption and "creative chaos" are concerned, Italy is much more "eastern" than Poland. Not to mention that Szczecin is further West than half of Italy, so geographically it's also inaccurate.

News / 11th November Independence Day in Poland [73]


I am more of a Piłsudski guy but I think 15th August would be a better date for Independence Day (much warmer). :)

News / 11th November Independence Day in Poland [73]


Reconstruction group of late 18th century infantry (Gdańsk had quite a sizeable garrison back then and a huge arsenal). Contrary to common (especially in the West) belief, Gdańsk was a Polish city from its foundation through most of its over 1000-year history. So, in a Gdańsk parade you can see medieval Polish knights, Polish troops from horse-and-musket era and, of course, more modern units.


Watched it online - too cold for my old bones to stand in the streets. I followed my usual 11th November routine: put out the flag early in the morning, read some patriotic literature/magazines and then watch the parade(s) on TV/online. I'm an armchair kind of patriot. :)

News / 11th November Independence Day in Poland [73]

That sucks. :( You should have parades as everyone else. I'm not saying historic WW2 units should take part, but modern forces and from other periods - why not?

*off to watch the parade*

News / 11th November Independence Day in Poland [73]


Don't you have them on October 3rd?

News / 11th November Independence Day in Poland [73]

Can't wait for the annual parade in Gdańsk. There will be historical units and vehicles...

trojmiasto.pl/wiadomosci/Parady-na-Dzien-Niepodleglosci-w-Trojmiescie-n172459.html

... it starts in half an hour! Yes, I know - I'm such a kid. :)