Food / Polish Salted Butter [68]


Very probably and undoubtedly it's of American origin. I have never heard any speaker of British English refer to something as 'eatable'.


Which suggests that you knew there was something not quite comme il faut about the word :) Eatable is what I would classify as 'a word', as opposed to ' a word' , if you get my drift. It's one of those modernisms that has crept into usage but is definitely not commonly used by speakers of British English. It has a certain inelegance about it.

Food / Polish Salted Butter [68]


Edible, oh venerable teacher of English ;)


Not if you butter your toast/bread with lovely Irish butter :)

Life / Comfortable Salary in Poland to get by and save? [10]

22,000 is not that high for a programmer though. A programmer with 11 years experience would be classified as 'senior' so even without a management or team leader role, they could expect 20,000+ in Warsaw. Of course it depends on what kind of experience they have and which sector they work in.

Life / Comfortable Salary in Poland to get by and save? [10]

It depends on your area of specialty. Software professional is a bit too vague. But 22,000 gross is ok especially if you're not fluent in the Polish language.

If you want to get an idea of your net salary use this calculator. It's one of the best because it breaks down your take home pay month by month. That will vary throughout the year because the Polish tax system doesn't average out your net salary over the year (bizarre). If you're single, then your net pay will drop from July onwards when you go into the higher tax bracket, which is good to know in advance for your budgeting.

//calculla.com/polish_net_gross_earnings_calculator

Use this site to calculate your living costs:

//numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Warsaw

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]



Basically the Charter of Fundamental Rights is a single document created in 2000 which combined all the existing European rights into a single place, if you get my drift. So it wasn't created by three people :)) The Charter was drafted by MEPs, members of the national parliaments of the EU representatives from EU member state governments and a representative of the European Commission with observers from other EU institutions.

It contains all of the rights which were set down in 1950 by the Council of Europe in the European Convention of Human Rights. It also contains everything that was previously set out in :

The EU Treaties
Case law of the Court of Justice of the European Union
National constitutions of each member state

History / Polish patriotism - through the ages [25]

It's in the 'news' section: https://polanda.com/off-topic/poland-aid-ukraine-russia-invades-part-87378/

UK, Ireland / Boris Johnson - is the new British PM a popular figure in Poland? [150]


And that sums up the DUP perfectly (not to mention the Loyalist paramilitaries). Perhaps you're beginning to get a vague insight into the politics of Northern Ireland, at any rate. If you can get your head round that, you'll understand why the Irish government behaved as they did.

UK, Ireland / Boris Johnson - is the new British PM a popular figure in Poland? [150]


Don't talk about Irish politics unless you understand them Maf.


It's par for the course that sex scandals bring down powerful individuals and governments. The streak of puritanism that runs through American society has done exactly that with your own, on more than one occasion. It's a handy excuse to get rid of people who are no longer wanted. The old 'ooh, this is the straw that broke the camel's back'. Btw, you don't know much about English politics, any more than Maf does about Ireland. You should save your breath to cool your porridge on this one.

UK, Ireland / Posting mail from Poland to the UK [26]

Could it be stuck in customs in the UK? Since Brexit packages that aren't properly labelled get delayed.

UK, Ireland / Boris Johnson - is the new British PM a popular figure in Poland? [150]


Brexit is over and done with so it can't really have an effect on something that's in the past.


That depends on who his successor is.


That's not why he resigned. It's because of a recent sexual misconduct scandal involving Chris Pincher the Conservative party chief whip, whom Boris appointed to that very important role, though the guy already had a reputation. The latest episode and Johnson's mishandling of it is the straw that broke the camel's back, basically.

History / Introduction to Polish history! From a Polish perspective [94]


And that's why professional authors have editors ..........

@Kashub, don't take Novi's advice of writing in Polish and using Google Translate. Keep writing in English. You'll develop your English language skills and develop your own writing style po Angielsku. It's a good project :)

Love / Toxicity of SOME Polish Mothers Towards Their Daughters [36]

Spending every Saturday or Sunday with your parents seems to be the norm for Polish adults.

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


I think you're right Jon. Years ago Ireland supposedly had the highest number of 'millionaires' in the EU and it was entirely due to the exorbitant property values in Dublin.

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


They're never too young to start learning.

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Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


Well, we must remember Jon that there is very little respect for teachers in Poland. I'm lucky that I trained and worked in Ireland where there is historically great respect for the teaching profession and a track record of hugely dedicated teachers.

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


Teachers in Poland are not well paid but teachers in many other countries are.


What world do you live in? Women still do the lion's share of the work in taking care of children. Studies/research carried out very recently in Poland showed that the attitudes regarding sharing duties professed by Polish men are not borne out by the reality. Women do at least twice as much as men.


You really are an ignorant lump. I trained to teach children from ages 3 to 12 and a well trained teacher can have a profound influence on the development of a child - and not just academically.

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]


In fairness, he's not a paedophile. He (allegedly) had sex with a seventeen year old sex worker who'd been at it for years and even recruited other girls for Epstein.

Food / Where can I buy lamb in Poland? [89]

I think he's coming from Ireland.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


So according to you, who has never been to Ireland and never read any Irish history, all the professors, scholars, historians and academics are completely wrong in their understanding of our own history. Cziekawe ....


Brehon law is the oldest European legal system and evolved over centuries into a highly complex code for which lawyers received professional training. This is not some loose 'tribal' system. Originally these laws were handed down by word of mouth, passed from master to student in oral repetition, but from the seventh century onwards they were written. One of the most important written sources of the Brehon law is the manuscript Egerton 88, now in the British Library copied in the 16th century at the law school of Cahermacnaghten on the Burren, in Co Clare. These law schools educated their pupils from the age of seven years right up to adulthood, to a very high standard, impressing one of Queen Elizabeth's envoys who remarked that the young pupils spoke Latin as if it were their native tongue.

As I've already said, read some of the many histories of Ireland written by the people who lived at the time and see what their perception of Ireland was.

If you don't believe the experts, perhaps you'll believe our old friend Wikipedia:

'Irish nationalism is regarded as having emerged following the Renaissance revival of the concept of the patria and the religious struggle between the ideology of the Protestant Reformation and the Catholic Counter-Reformation. At this early stage in the 16th century, Irish nationalism represented an ideal of the native Gaelic Irish and the Old English banding together in common cause, under the banner of Catholicism and Irish civic identity ("faith and fatherland/motherland"),[10] hoping to protect their land and interests from the New English Protestant forces sponsored by England.'

Food / Where can I buy lamb in Poland? [89]


I was in Kaufland in Iława last week - no lamb. But I don't shop there regularly so maybe they have it from time to time. I live in Warsaw and I've seen lamb in Biedronka on occasion but cuts like shoulder, never any proper lamb chops, now and again a leg. Sometimes British, sometimes Irish but not farm traceable like it would be in Ireland and not the tastiest to be honest. They do Polish lamb in Auchan in Warsaw all the time (well in the bigger branches anyway) and it's actually very good but very expensive. The leg is about 60zl per kilo but the other cuts are prohibitive and it's not butchered the Irish way so you won't get a loin chop or a rack. I don't shop at Auchan anymore because they're still in Russia and I'm not putting money in their pocket, so no lamb for me these days :(

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


Read our history and you'll know what. Too lazy to read it in detail? Don't try to debate it with somebody who knows it inside out - and not from school history books. Not interested in reading it? No problem. Just don't try to educate me, of all people, about something of which you are almost entirely ignorant.

If you do want to read about the roots of Irish nationalism, as you refer to it, I'd suggest this book:

And so began the Irish Nation: Nationality, Nationalism and National Consciousness in Pre-Modern Ireland
by Brendan Bradshaw

As the author says, it was from the mid-15th century that something akin to 'national consciousness' began to emerge: Bradshaw pinpoints the 1460 Irish Parliament, in which it was declared that Ireland was independent of laws passed in England, as being a key moment, because of the claim for Ireland as its own entity, and the Old English community's apparent identification of Ireland as their 'homeland'. By that time the Normans (the Old English) had adopted the Irish language, customs and in some cases Brehon laws and objected to being 'ruled' by England.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


I know - and you'd be right :) But we, the Irish, always refer to the English/England or 'the Brits'. The English is the term used when talking about older Irish history and the Brits is used more for the 19th century onwards.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


No, it isn't. We engaged in centuries of armed struggle against the English. We didn't just wake up one day in the middle of the 19th century and decide we were 'Irish' and should have our own independent nation. I've posted about this in the off-topic just now so I'll link you to it.

polishforums.com/off-topic/poland-random-chat-74400/114/#msg1856998

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


I'm extremely well read in Irish history at a much higher level than school history books. That's why I understand the topic far better than you do. And I understand the difference between Irish nationalism within the context of Sinn Fein, the Celtic revival of the 19th century (which was to some extent an artificial construct), and the real, living, breathing history of a nation, which you would feel in your bones if you ever set foot in Ireland.

The Lebor Gabála Eireann (The Book of the Taking of Ireland) is a thousand years old. The Irish already understood that Ireland was a distinct country. That's why the attempted to write a history of their nation. Just because we didn't have on single leader (though we did have that sporadically) does not mean we were not a united nation. We liked as much autonomy and freedom as possible; each family liked to govern itself and its lands but within the constricts of Brehon Law.


The problem is not simplicity but complexity. It seems that the history of Ireland and the concept of Irishness is too complex for you to grasp.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


Well now, the earliest surviving references to hurling are found in 7th and 8th century AD Irish laws, which describe various sporting injuries that should be compensated. That's under the terms of Brehon Law which codified every area of Irish life in pre-Christian times and survived until the 17th century.


Firstly, I could indeed talk to him as I have a few words of Irish and the Irish spoken today is essentially the same. Secondly I know what hurling is and so would he, thirdly I know about the Fianna, the Tuath De Danaan et al and so would he, thirdly we'd share the same religion and I could reference sacred places and monastic settlements that he would know, fourthly I'd know some of the songs and music that he would know because so many of the 'tunes' as we call them have been passed down. I could discuss the difficulties facing harpers now that they've been outlawed etc etc.I'd know how to greet him and address him with proper courtesy as 'Fear Uasal' and he'd address me as 'Bean Uasal' - noble man, noble lady. We would recognize each other as Irish.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


You're absolutely wrong.


And that's where you're completely wrong. Actually music is at the very heart of Irishness. We're intensely musical people. And we live the culture. It's not a show for tourists. It's who we have been since long before Christianity. And our pagan, ancient past has remained in the national consciousness in a way that has been lost in Poland. Most Polish people know little and care less about ancient Polish ways. You don't express your sense of national identity through music and song as the Irish do, not indeed through sports. We've been playing hurling for thousands of years. It's in the legends of ancient Ireland and it's part of our culture today. We know who we are. We've always known.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


What do you mean by a modern Irish nationalist? Answer in off-topic.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


What you said was that Ireland was a tribal society and didn't have a sense of a single national identity - which is not true. Ireland perceived itself as a single nation long before the 18th century, a fact proven by the existence of books of Irish history dating back to medieval times, which purport to tell the history of the establishment of Ireland. Read about the Lebor Gabála Eireann (The Book of the Taking of Ireland). It was written in the 11th century. The fact that such a book was compiled so long ago, indicates that there was a concept of Ireland as a single nation/country a thousand years ago and an appetite amongst its people for a recorded history. This history already existed in oral form and would have been known throughout the whole country as it was recited in poetry form by the Bards of every noble family. Anyway, let's leave it there. If you want to bang on about it we can take it to off-topic Random.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


Where are you getting this idea from? You mentioned 1848 and I think you're confused by the ideals of the Young Irelanders and their paper 'The Nation'. The concept of a distinct sense of national identity existed long before the 18th century. It's hard for an outsider to understand though Jon actually gets it :)) The sense of Irishness has always been powerful. It's in our stories, our songs, our music, our sports, our customs. We have always known we are Irish. And it includes the Norman English, the Cromwellian settlers and all who assimilated into Irish society.


The Vikings did actually come to Ireland you know. They founded the capital city of Dublin. Haven't you heard of the Battle of Clontarf?


Yes indeed. And the original topic of the thread which was how Sinn Fein's success in the elections would affect Poland, which is, not at all - not in my opinion anyway.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


I know the history of my country very well - and it's a very long history. Any waves of migration to Ireland are very ancient and the Gaelic culture emerged over thousands of years.


About five hundred years after Christianity arrived in Ireland.


You really are very ignorant aren't you ? :)) The mass of people at that time wore woollen clothes, the nobility wore silk and satin which was imported. Banners and flags were made of silk. There was a strict ranking system regarding the wearing of colours etc.

As far back as the seventh century this was how the Gaelic people dressed.


Please don't try to educate me regarding the history of my country, in which I am very well versed and of which you know next to nothing. Those different tribes were all related to each other and practised the system of fostering to boot. Those tribes observed the Brehon Law, the same religion and shared the same mythology. They were one people ethnically.