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Polish patriotism - through the ages


Kashub1410 6 | 689
9 Jul 2022 #1


Here is one of the best patriotic songs sung by the Polish peoples army in my opinion. I like that it isn't too specific in it's text and great melody. Even tho it mentions villages and cities and fighting evil (which? Very obvious at the time) and from east to west, which was a very rare situation for us Poles to fight.

As an peaceful olive branch I thought I start with one of the most-pro Russian songs in the "album" of Polish patriotic songs.

Please add the ones you like freely!
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
9 Jul 2022 #2
As everybody knows, my favorite Polish patriotic song (piesn ojczyznowa) is the Warszawianka.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,191
11 Jul 2022 #3
Please add the ones you like freely!



Please add the ones you like freely!
gumishu 13 | 6,138
11 Jul 2022 #4
@Cojestdocholery

what happened to the thread "Poland aid to Ukraine if Russia invades"?
mafketis 37 | 10,910
11 Jul 2022 #7
It's in the 'news' section:

and closed... I'm thinking of starting a new thread (since they dind't like my posting on a similar topic)
PolAmKrakow 2 | 990
11 Jul 2022 #8
@mafketis
Please do. Cant understand why they would close an active thread that had so many engaged. Makes zero sense.
pawian 224 | 24,479
11 Jul 2022 #9
I'm thinking of starting a new thread

Yes, do, but in off topic section. Otherwise, the new one will be closed, too.
mafketis 37 | 10,910
11 Jul 2022 #10
Yes, do, but in off topic section

scr3w it then, anything to do with the war is of utmost relevance to Poland and if the mods don't want to understand that then I wont bother
pawian 224 | 24,479
27 Jul 2022 #11
if the mods don't want to understand that then I wont bother

Mods changed their mind and the thread is continued, so all is well that ends well. :):):)

Hey, Kashub, how about your next history lectures in another thread? They are really interesting. Ignore azholes who criticise some language mistakes, like Novi.
Veles - | 201
27 Jul 2022 #12
As everybody knows, my favorite Polish patriotic song (piesn ojczyznowa) is the Warszawianka.

The one from 1831 or the one from 1905? :)
Alien 20 | 5,047
27 Jul 2022 #13
Is there any difference?
Veles - | 201
27 Jul 2022 #14
Yeah, those are different songs.
Alien 20 | 5,047
27 Jul 2022 #15
How different?
Veles - | 201
27 Jul 2022 #16
Like between ABBA and Modern Talking - same genre, yet not same songs.

Plus, the one from 1905 has more covers in other languages with somewhat different meaning.
Alien 20 | 5,047
27 Jul 2022 #17
I need more input to understand it.
OP Kashub1410 6 | 689
28 Jul 2022 #18
@pawian
Ive had some personal life problems lately, had to break up with my fiancee. Ill get back to it when I can
Novichok 4 | 8,100
28 Jul 2022 #19
Hey, geniuses, what is "patriotism"? I mean what does one do (not feel or think - do) when one is a patriot. Voluntarily pays more in taxes? Shoots refugees at the border? Sings the national anthem before going to bed? What?
Veles - | 201
28 Jul 2022 #20
Doesn't throw garbage on the street or in the forests for example, keeps things clean. Country is like a common yard, shared by many - a patriot is the one who can coexist and cooperate with others instead of behaving like vermin, responsible for broken windows, graffitis and destroyed benches.
Novichok 4 | 8,100
28 Jul 2022 #21
Doesn't throw garbage on the street

That goes under what one does not do. A good point to start with is that one does not violate the laws and rules because one is not a pig.

graffitis and destroyed benches.

Based on that, Europeans are not very patriotic since every square foot in Europe is covered with graffiti. The place where I used to live in Warsaw used to be clean. In 2107, it looked like this...



Veles - | 201
28 Jul 2022 #22
That goes under what one does not do. A good point to start with is that one does not violate the laws and rules because...

Yes, pretty much. I'd say patriotism is basically caring for the place one inhabits. Therefore, it's not about ideology but about the mindset.

Based on that, Europeans are not very patriotic since every square foot in Europe is covered with graffiti.

People who are responsible for drawing graffitis aren't patriotic, since they do their best to turn the place into a shthole - but that's only them. It doesn't take everyone in the neighbourhood to make graffitis, it can as well be either one clown or a small circus.

Just because Joe is a hooligan, doesn't mean that everyone is. Responsibility for Joe's actions is on Joe.
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
28 Jul 2022 #23
@Veles,
I was referring to the famous version sung in the film I'd mentioned.
Novichok 4 | 8,100
28 Jul 2022 #24
Just because Joe is a hooligan, doesn't mean that everyone is. Responsibility for Joe's actions is on Joe.

The responsibility for the first act of vandalism is Joe's. All future acts are the responsibility of the society where Joe can continue vandalizing. In Singapore, there are no repeaters.

Just ask Michael Fay.
Veles - | 201
29 Jul 2022 #25
@Novichok

Then everyone on the planet is responsible for the actions of hooligans and criminals who live in their areas? I'm sure those live in Singapore too.


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