Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]


This very forum, for example. Remember how your buddy Velund lied through his teeth that the Russian forces along Ukrainian borders are there merely on exercise. He said this until the very day of invasion! Now, he's not a complete and utter idiot to have believed that, so he must have been lying.

Also, since the beginning of this war your media and government officials spat out such a river of lies that it would shock even the most cunning Tatar.


Hmm... fairly recent, I'd say. Before that it was as you say - naive and lazy were the main stereotypes but there was always this hint of a "cunning Asian" behind it. There is a good PhD there somewhere, for some diligent and unbiased researcher.

Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]


Erm... I dunno... they are good at poetry, love songs, lying and drinking, and they should stick to that. Hygiene and dental care sound like something a German and a Swiss might discuss with great passion, but a Pole and a Russian? Not really.

Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]

Another twelve year old thread resurrected just to hurt our precious feelings. :D You're horrible, Bobko! I think I shall call you Bobspana from now on.

Unfortunately for Russia, no matter how few bidets Poles have, how much our arses smell and how rotten our teeth are, you will still lose this war, Putin is still a cowardly war criminal and Russian footballers/hockeyist can play with their d*cks but not in the European/World competitions. Just to put things in perspective. :)

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Yes, their country got invaded and their closed ones killed. That's why it's completely understandable that they got angry because of that. For the reason of this anger, they gathered together and formed an angry mob to stop the ambassador from laying flowers in the cemetery. When people are angry and they form a mob, then that's what we call angry mob. What's your problem?



Now, let's not get too emotional here. Neither my Russophilia (which I never denied but which was severely weakened by this nonsensical war and numerous Russian war crimes) nor my evident lack of deep romantic love for a certain segment of Ukrainian society (which I like to tenderly call banderopithecs) are even remotely relevant here. There are laws and international conventions that we - as a Latin civilisation country - have to follow. Dura lex sed lex and all that.

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


You can't know this. That's the whole point in being a secret agent. :)


He does it quite well himself without needing any help from me in this matter.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


My solution is simple: the police should have dispersed the mob and make it possible for the embassy delegation to lay flowers. As I said, either we are hosts in our own country or we allow angry Ukrainian mob to run things.

There would have been no such problem if we had followed the example of Lithuania and had broken the relations with Russia, but as long as the official relations are maintained we have to follow the law and international conventions.


No, but we have been providing substantial help for Ukrainian war effort, which could easily be interpreted as a hostile act and "spontaneous protests" staged to make it impossible for our delegation to visit Katyń last month. No such thing happened.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


What? Pawian, you are getting old and demented - when have I ever proved anything on this board??? Don't be ridiculous. :)


It's not about proportions really but about this pesky little feeling that we didn't do our duty as hosts towards our guests because other guests decided that they don't like it. As a host in my own country I feel a bit uneasy about it. Oh, well...


The right of Russian embassy to honour their war cemetery was denied, with stark violation to both the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and Ustawa o grobach i cmentarzach wojennych - that's my problem. We are either a lawful country and hosts in our own land or we allow angry Ukrainian mob to run things. Tertium non datur.

*off to get some sleep* Good night.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [88]


Probably Lukashenka invented a new way of smuggling muslim immigrants into Poland. The baloon has probably already landed on some German field and the passengers rejoined their families in Germany. All's well that ends well.

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


Exactly - a Tygodnik Powszechny, "Kościół łagiewnicki" type of guy. The Church is a 2000-year-old institution - they haven't survived for that long by putting all their eggs in one basket (PiS). Hołownia is their man in case PiS loses and the opposition takes power.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


They didn't come to protest against the war but to make it impossible for the embassy delegation to lay the flowers in the cemetery. And the police didn't do their job properly either.

As much as we all hate what Russia is doing in Ukraine the facts are simple:

1. We have laws in Poland about war graves and cemeteries (Ustawa o grobach i cmentarzach wojennych).
2. There is a Russian embassy in Poland (we didn't break diplomatic relations).
3. Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations still applies to Russian embassies in Poland and vice versa.

So, does the Russian embassador have the right to visit their war cemetery? Yes. Was the Russian delegation properly protected from the mob by the police (as they should be)? No.

It is an embarassment really, especially that a month before the incident - on 10th April - the delegation of Polish embassy in Moscow, led by the ambassador Krzysztof Krajewski, visited our cemetery in Katyń without any obstacles from the Russian side.


Patriots of Ukraine, possibly, but only guests in Poland, not the hosts - and the role of the hosts taking care of cemeteries and diplomatic relations is ours.


I'm doing what I can to keep the board alive. :)

Life / Vasectomy in Poland is illegal? Why? [123]


Yes, it is. There were too many accidents of the entire hospital wards collapsing under the sheer weight of Polish balls, so the operations had to be stopped.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]

OK, Pawian - so what's your opinion about the mob (consisting mostly of Ukrainians) not allowing Russian ambassador to lay flowers in The Soviet Military Cemetery in Warsaw recently? And of the police not doing enough to enable the Russian delegation the entrance to the cemetery?

I, for once, am deeply ashamed about the incident.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Wasn't the one in Głubczyce dedicated to the 676 soldiers who died liberating the town?


Yes. It would be a scandal and an embarassment if it wasn't the case.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Not that controversial and not that uncommon among Poles.

Pawian will disagree and probably sling some mud on me, but I really think we should leave the monuments for simple soldiers alone.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


I'm not so sure about that. The monuments of Lenin, prominent communists or Russian commanders/generals were very rightly removed, but why destroy the monuments of soldiers? After all they had very little to do with politics and gave their lives to kick Nazis out of Poland; Nazis whose objective - after murdering all the Jews - was to either exterminate Poles or turn them into slave labor force. Those soldiers defeated Wehrmacht, liberated the concentration camps and brought a kind of freedom for Poland (limited and bitter but still). Their victory meant life for Poles (both Christians and Jews) and the end of Nazi-German nightmare.

I would leave the monuments for soldiers alone. Just sayin.

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


Another Palikot or Petru, only worse because we don't really know who's pulling his strings (probably the Church), as he never revealed where the funds for his presidential campaign came from, and he seems to be mentally unstable (crying over the constiutution lol). Also, failure to get higher education these days, when even my neighbour's cat would easily get a magister degree at any uni, doesn't reflect well on the guy.


Yes, and they restrain their coalition partner from any extreme ideas (leftist or rightist). They are exactly the commonsensical, centre party that Poland needs. Too bad they joined Hołownia's ephemeral movement.

Life / Why there is always around a horrible smell of sweat in Poland [220]


WOW! You resurrected a 15-year-old thread that has been dead for over five years just to say that Poles "refuse to wash their ass".

Your evolution from a cultured, civilised poster towards an Espana-clone is truly amazing. What this board does to people! :D :D :D

Life / Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland? [645]

According to ILGA-Europe, Poland is the most homophobic country in th EU...

m.wirtualnemedia.pl/m/artykul/polska-najbardziej-homofobiczny-kraj-unia-europejska

... we took 1st place for the fourth time in a row. I knew we had to be best at something in the EU, I just wasn't sure what it was.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [146]


What? Is it some sub-commission of Polish Language Council (RJP)? Interia and other sources say that it was the Comission for Standardisation for Geographical Names Outside the Borders of the Republic of Poland (KSNGpGRP)...

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komisja_Standaryzacji_Nazw_Geograficznych_poza_Granicami_Rzeczypospolitej_Polskiej

... oh, well. Whichever bunch of f*cking eggheads and paper-shufflers did this - fair play to them! At least they got one thing right in their useless, parasitic lives. :)

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


Spot on, Maf. Look at Bobi's recent fairy tales about the amazing might of the Ukrainian army. Rationalising the Russian army's failure and perhaps already justifying the losses in the coming counter-offensive. If even intelligent people like him are susceptible to resorting to this psychological mechanism, then what defense is there for simple, state-TV-watching folks?

Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]


I doubt it. The Ukrainian lady who cleans up at my place, does the ironing etc. charges 45 pln/hr. 25/h sounds like a summer job for a high-school student, not serious full-time wages.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


Erm... have you watched any Russian state TV? Or listened to their "diplomats" and politicians? The adjective 'normal' just doesn't collocate with any of what's happening there.

Off-Topic / Serbia etc. thread 3 [437]

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News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


Yes, I noticed you tend to underestimate your enemies.


Are you kidding me? Everyone knew what's going on for weeks before the "blitzkrieg" began. You can't attack suddenly and unexpectedly in the age of satellites, internet etc. The moment you start gathering troops, everyone and their grandmother knows what you're doing.


"The rest of Europe" is 500 million people (with slightly fewer percentage of drunks, HIV-positive, and degenerates than their Russian counterparts), incomparably stronger economy and armies that would wipe the floor with Russians in 3 weeks. Of course, we will never find out because even Ukrainian peasants armed with whatever handouts Europe and US could spare are efficiently stopping you.

However, let's just calmly assemble the strongest land army in the EU - just in case. :)

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


I know.


What did they need our Grads and T-72s for then? And all the trains with ammunition for their post-Soviet artillery? Also, if they were so phantastically strong then why did you attack them with a hundred thousand or so of moderately equipped soldiers? And why, now that they are even more phantastically strong, you keep attacking them with T-54s and other ancient stuff? Questions, questions...

Meanwhile, let's calmly get those Abrams and HIMARS, just in case. :)

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


The quality counts as well - we are getting brand new K2s and Abrams, as well as F-35s, HIMARS and Chunmu on top of other modern stuff. Ukraine is using mainly old post-Soviet junk.

Besides, Ukraine is at war, it's obvious their standing army is larger than Poland's 2035 peace time forces will be. Voluntary conscription has been introduced, however, as a first step to train reserve force in case of war.

I understand that Russia would prefer a weaker Poland and that's precisely why the army is being strengthened.

Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]

Throngs of Chinese in Gdańsk this week, Germans and Americans. Took the missus to a restaurant in the Old Town on Tuesday - we were the only Polish-speaking guests. :D

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


There are worse things than war.

If Russia attacks Poland, the war will make your current altercation with banderopithecs look like a kindergarten brawl between retarded children.


Don't be ridiculous. After the completion of the army reform we will be able to take on both Russia and Ukraine (if need be) with a finger in our nose.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

@Bobko

Not necessarily. Si vis pacem, para bellum etc.

However, I still think the most essential ingredient in strengthening Polish deterrent potential is missing: our own nuclear weapons. If Pakis are allowed to have, then Poland should join the club as well.

Off-Topic / Serbia etc. thread 3 [437]

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