Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [645]


israel is in a better place than it would be as a member of nato.

to understand why i say this, first let's agree what is nato.

to me, and to many other people, nato is "the united states and its many friends". that is, the americans are 80-90% of what makes nato scary.

israel and south korea are not part of nato, but they benefit from certain bilateral agreements which make them feel even better than if they were actual nato partners.

ukraine - right at this very moment - is saying "it's ok if we are not invited to nato, but we want the french, british and americans to guarantee our security."

all article v is, is a promise by member countries to do what they can to help a country under attack. this could mean sending blankets and tents.

i think israel is more important to the usa than any country in nato, save the uk, germany, and france. not even italy and spain are included in that list of exceptions.

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explain?

what did you want to see/hear?

edit: ah now i see! very stupid of me, indeed.

new conclusion, most formerly powerful or currently powerful countries never apologize for anything, except germany and belgium - which make them the most civilized nations in the world.

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civilized people never apologize.

have you ever seen britain apologize to india or to kenya for the bengal famine or the suppression of the mau mau uprising??

what about france apologizing to the people of niger or senegal?

japan apologizing to korea or china?

america doesn't apologize to hawaiians or samoans or cubans. in fact, it sanctions cubans for wanting to be free. they exterminated their native americans - so problem solved - no one to apologize to.

i think the only country that has done any amount of apologizing for anything is germany.

germany is the most civilized country on earth.

also, i think belgium recently started apologizing to congo for what they did. but what they did was truly the stuff of horror films, and difficult to not apologize for.

Off-Topic / Arts and crafts [150]


Yes, sorry for that.

Great idea for a thread, here.

I hope you keep coming with stuff like this. It's a breath of fresh air.

Off-Topic / Arts and crafts [150]


Then that monk is doing overtime work.

I think in Russia there is one of the biggest populations of monks in the entire world, but still just several thousands.

In most of the West Christianity is dead, and I have never heard of anyone joining a monastery.

Maybe the crazy baptists and others would rapidly fill up all the monasteries, but unfortunately they are not allowed.

So a few thousand monks are pulling the weight of 8 billion people's sins.


What makes you such a gentle cupcake, that your brother has to get a second job, and your mom has to plan making a once weekly delivery of a "care package" to the monastery?

Your brother works a responsible job, for which he gets paid a salary - from which he shares with you. What exactly do you do?

"Ohhh, our Bob - you know how he is... We all need to focus our energies on him building a solid barrier from our world of sin - so that he can truly start flexing his Christian muscles!"

This pisses me off.

Why should everyone work to make your monastery experience a success? How is this different from the parasites that saddle everyone with their rehab bills?

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Please... this is also true in the Eastern/Orthodox tradition.

I think Hindu priests and Buddhist monks have similar ambitions.

The main attraction, for most clueless "Joe Blows" out there - is precisely the idea of a "fortress".

Monasteries are maybe not "fortresses" (although many in Russia acted in that capacity, especially during the Polish invasion), but spiritual strongholds. A place of refuge, where one can shield himself from the sin and chaos of the secular world.

The dedication to prayer, contemplation, and the pursuit of holiness - it's all about forming a spiritual barrier against the forces of moral decay outside.

This is what irritated me then, and even now.

You cannot save the world by running away from it.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


Damn, I'm impressed!

Off-Topic / Arts and crafts [150]


Back then I was religious, and I thought the point of going to a monastery is to pay lifelong penance for my own and the world's sins. Also a way of escaping temptation, and finding true brotherhood in a circle of men of the same mind as mine.

Now I think it is retarded for a young man to consider he has any sins to atone for, let alone that he should do it for the world. Also, I like the brotherhood I found within my firm. Quite a bit more comfortable of a brotherhood, than within a monastery or within an army regiment.

Escaping temptation... I think a monastery feeds it more than it protects from it.

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No, not at all.

I don't know if I told you, but I did too.

When I really didn't know what was up and what was down, I thought I had only two real directions before me - the army or a monastery. The third option, less considered, was likely prison.

I suspect most young men within a certain IQ range go through this period.

I'm over that now.

Off-Topic / Arts and crafts [150]


Maybe you are right, but instead me and AntV are "somewhat" into art.

The type of art you shared, I think I would classify as "interior decorating" art. I'm sure no such category exists, but you know what I mean...

I would expect to see that type of art in my plumber's apartment, or in a 3-star hotel. Maybe somebody is moving into a new rental apartment, and they went and bought some prints from IKEA or Zara Home.


I like lots of things. I like the sculptures of antiquity, I like medieval stuff, I like baroque era stuff (more the Dutch things, because I had enough of religious themes and like to look at common scenes),
I like modern stuff, I like post-modern stuff of most varieties - I like everything.

It's easier for me to say what I don't like.

I don't like almost anything that the Cubists produced, or Suprematists, or Constructivists (all largely Russian in origin - yes I know).

Goya speaks to me, but maybe less so Dali or Miro - if we discuss Spaniards. At the same time, Picasso does as well - even though I was talking sh*t about Cubism/Surrealism. His Guernica is one of the paintings which produced the greatest impression on me. The way he addressed war, industry, and the dehumanization of modern life - was much more effective for me than Dali or Miro, and much more like Goya who preceded them by a century.

Basically, I like everything, but not the photorealistic stuff you shared.

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I bet he likes Rubens, like "The Madonna and the Child, with infant Saint John and Elizabeth".

Maybe Botticelli's "Birth of Venus".

AntV and Ironside always struck me as the type of guys that would be quite happy within a medieval monastery - brewing beer, and eating fat legs of ham.

However, I must agree with him - these photorealistic things really do not speak to me. What's the point?

Life / Poland research for my world cultures class [3]

@noodle0101

Ask ChatGPT to do your homework for you, and spend the time outside kicking a ball, instead.

This will be better for your physical health, plus you will not have polluted your brain with useless knowledge.

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


Older people and young children have much in common.


This is no good.

There's a tool for this, attaching image below.

If you remove the pubes - the water will drain faster.

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Hahahaha)

You hear that Kania?

Stop lording it over me - you spring chicken!

Off-Topic / What was the point when Europe stopped being all-White? [66]


Why, no? We are waxing nostalgic about a white Europe. What is more emblematic of proper Europe, than a proper Deutschmark?

The last S-Klass you could by with a Deutschmark, was also the last S-Klass that looked good!

You could say about that car that it had all the necessary qualities of a good German car - quadratische, praktisch, gut. Not looking like some Korean transvestite!

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If the Deutschmark still existed, Greece would be bankrupt, and a Mercedes S-Klass would cost $250,000 instead of $150,000.

The Euro helped make everything everywhere else in Europe more expensive, but cheaper in Germany.

It was such a ridiculously strong currency, that it would make the Swiss Franc blush.

Even now, Germany is the only thing that makes people take European debt seriously, or have any confidence in the Euro.

A reintroduction of the Deutschmark would kill German exports, while making imports very attractive to Germans. It would also have the effect of an atom bomb explosion under the whole idea of the EU.

So these AfD guys are quite a bit more dangerous than Marine Le Pen, and her dreams of Frexit.

You should be happy that the rest of Europe diluted your ridiculously strong currency - and spread their butt cheeks wide for your exports.

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I knew you would have no problems with reintroducing the Deutschmark and closing the border with Poland.

We can negotiate about Bonn, it is is not absolutely necessary.

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All that is necessary is to take Germany and the Netherlands out of the Schengen Area.

When migrants understand that they have to permanently remain in Poland, or in Italy - instead of being able to carry on directly to the Germans or the Dutch - they will stop coming.

Put a big huge fence up on your borders with Poland and Austria, and enjoy life.

Oh also, don't forget borders with France.

Under EU law, specifically the Dublin III Regulation, the rule is that the country where the asylum seeker first entered the EU is responsible for handling their asylum claim. You must simply enforce the law!

Alternatively, you can do what the French do and provide little boats and snack packages so that your migrants can safely make the journey to Great Britain. If that is too far, you can at least help them arrive in Norway and Sweden.

The problem with Norway and Sweden is that they are part of the Schengen Area unlike Britain. So this means you will have to close your border with Denmark as well.

It is my understanding you have already been closing the border sporadically, but that this makes you unpopular with Brussels. I say make the border closure permanent.

After that, reintroduce the Deutschmark and move the capital back to Bonn.

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


You are a teacher, yes? What kind of a lesson are you hoping to teach the Ukrainian primates with your Mahatma Gandhi shtick?

They do not understand such things... and will only consider you weak! Do you understand me - they will have no respect for you as a pedagogue and will behind your back despise you.

With Ukrainian swinehounds the conversation must always be short and to the point.

For example, you ask: "Who was Stepan Bandera?!" and when the Khokhol begins with "A victim of Bolshevik repression..." you immediately punch him in his elephant trunk - two times.

Then when you say, "Who is Roman Shukhevych" they may now be more reluctant to give you a straight answer. Two kicks in their peasant gut for prophylaxis, and question can be repeated. If the answer starts incorrectly - again two rapid jabs to the proboscis.

In this way, and only in this way, can there be a hope to make out of a Ukrainian ein echter Europäer. Verstehen?

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Ah, so this was not a scandal fabricated entirely by "Imperialist Russian trolls"?

Not enough Poles are enlightened enough to fully embrace your theory of "Apology First".

Too many Poles are still like Kania and Ironside, and unfortunately the PO government cannot ignore the political dimension of it all.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


You are wasting serious political talent, writing here on this forum. You speak just like a Polish politician!

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History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


WTF.

Do you accuse me of outright lies?

Are you joking?

The moment comes at minute 13:19. Happy?

I have more respect for you than to fabricate facts. Do you have any respect for me?

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Baboon!!!

I did not attach a link to an article by Russia Today, but a link to a video on YouTube...

A video where YOUR foreign minister makes his thoughts known.

Sikorsky is a Russian imperialist? Yes or no?

You support the PO government - yes or no?

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Thanks!

I am popular here on this forum, for having many great ideas about how to improve life in Poland.

Do not hesitate to reach out to me for more advice in the future.

Faithfully yours,

Bobko

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


This is a good approach. Perhaps enough to make them start laying bricks in their underwear.

However... time has shown that there are only two groups the Ukrainians truly fear - the Americans and the Chinese. Everybody else, for them, are small peanuts. Trust me - I read their news enough. They think they can even bully Germans and French, through their retarded ambassadors or if necessary by employing Zelensky himself.

Naming, shaming, and humiliating is their diplomatic method of choice - except when Americans or Chinese are involved. With the Chinese it is especially humorous, because China is a nominal Russian ally (but also Ukraine's largest trade partner).

If the Poles alone begin twisting their arm, they'll get on a pedestal and start screaming:

"We are the Shield of Europe. The Beacon of Democracy. We suffer like the Christ on the cross, for the sins of Scholz and Kaczynski! BEHOLD - Poland is trying to extort us through railway embargoes! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!"

What you really need to do, is to go talk to Grandpa Biden, and explain your position. Then allow Grandpa to talk to Zelensky. Then, suddenly, Zelensky will become smooth as silk, and remarkably capable of listening to your complaints.

After all, the Ukrainians are our brothers, and just like us orcs - they only understand brute force and intimidation.

News / Flood in Lower Silesia in Poland - looks catastrophic [94]


Climatologists say that large parts of the world will have major issues sourcing drinking water in the next decades.

You Europeans should use this flooding as an opportunity to replenish your underground aquifers and create some new lakes.

Later you can use it for yourself, or sell to the Arabs at great profit.

Thank me later!

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


I'm not sure that that is the actual reason.

Personally, I think there are no bodies left there - I've said this in the past. Volyn and Galicia have been electing ultranationalist public officials since the early 90s. I wouldn't be surprised if they already "recycled" the dead bodies at some construction site.

However, that's just my personal conspiracist take.

In their public discourse amongst themselves, where they have less fear of being watched, still nobody ever mentions "fear of being embarrassed". Perhaps they should, but they don't.

Instead, the accent is always on "what will we get, if we allow them to come and exhume?".

It's what I wrote before, in regards to Ukrainians showing their true face by trying to engage in a "trade" over corpses.

They think, in their lumpen brain: "We let the Lyakhs take their bodies - they promise to help us get into the EU. Quid pro quo."

They don't understand how this makes them be in the same club as Hamas or Boko Haram. You know, as Pawian says - they need some more decades to mature as a state.

They see that Hezbollah can trade the corpse of a dead IDF soldier for 1,000 jihadists sitting in Israeli jails - and they think, "The Poles are also bleeding heart suckers, it would be foolish to forego asking for dividends from this trade."

Maybe they are even right... You saw what Sikorsky said - "These people have descendants... and they vote in elections. So the question is political."

That is, if it was a PO government which finally "bent" the Ukrainians to agree to the exhumations that would be a win for PO. If PO cannot achieve this, but PiS can - then it is a win for PiS. The Polish government could quietly promise the Ukrainians help in other departments, if the Ukrainians quietly agree to allow the exhumations.

So maybe their terrorist tactics are not so myopic as they seem.

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My favorite part of this discussion, is when Sikorsky says "The bodies must be exhumed and properly buried. Do you agree, yes or no?"...

... and the Ukrainian journalist answers along the lines of "I certainly cannot agree that Bandera and Shukhevych are not heroes!".

Hehehehe, and then Pawian tries to sell me some sh*t about Russian imperial propaganda!

This is a journalist for "Ukrainska Pravda"! The most well respected newspaper in Ukraine! With a very liberal and pro-Western bias!

I did not find you a quote from some Banderite living in a cave under Lvov, but from one of the most "European" of "European" Ukrainians.

Know who you are dealing with - baboon...

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

As promised in the "Polish Aid to Ukraine" thread, I'm posting here the parts of the interview Radoslaw Sikorsky gave to Ukrainska Pravda, that cover the controversy around the Wolyn and Galicia massacres.

The translation is from a Ukrainian transcript, where I primarily used Google Translate, with additional minor corrections made by me.

The journalist's questions are italicized, and Sikorsky's answers are in bold.

Attaching link to the full video in English (it was conducted in English), below. Unfortunately, I could not find a ready made English transcript - so apologies for the lengthy copy-paste in lieu of a link.

1) - Finally, let's talk about history. Can we agree on a resolution to our dispute? Are we moving forward in our dialogue?

- Something really needs to happen - we need to stop playing politics on this issue.

There are painful moments in the history of every country. Every nation has done things that we are not very proud of. Here, every nation does things differently. But at the same time, it is a Christian duty to bury the dead.

I don't know how much Ukrainian society knows about what happened in Volyn. What happened was that the Ukrainian resistance of that time gave the order for an ethnic cleansing of the Polish population of Volyn. This ethnic cleansing took place due to large-scale massacres. Between 80 and 120 thousand people died, were killed.

Of course, there were Polish countermeasures. But the initiators were the Ukrainians, and the bulk of the victims were Polish residents of Volyn.

We do not want to make politics out of this. But for Poland, this is an acute political issue, because these Poles have descendants. The entire population of these territories was deported to Polish territory.

These people have relatives who vote in elections. Therefore, this is a political issue.

The victims of this massacre must be buried in a Christian manner. That is all we ask for.

2) - In Ukraine, Volyn is known. But there is another view: that this is a political dispute, although it should be dealt with by historians.

- Yes, when the victims are buried in a Christian manner, then it will be the historians' business. But first, they need to be exhumed and buried. Do you agree or not?

3) - I certainly cannot agree with the statements made in Poland that with Bandera and Shukhevych Ukraine will not become a member of the EU. History is complex, and for Ukrainians these people are heroes. Does this mean that if you stick to your position, and we stick to ours, then the road to the EU is closed for us?

- Each country has the right to its own interpretation of history.

That is why, for example, Poland and Germany created a commission to write history textbooks, in particular school textbooks, in which we and the Germans agree at least on the facts.

And the fact is that Bandera's organization - although I understand that he himself was in a concentration camp at the time - ordered the mass extermination of civilian Poles.

4) - The question is, can we get into the EU by glorifying these people?

- It is you who ask this question, not me.

And I say that you will need friends. You need them now. And you will need them in the process of joining the EU.

And we ask you to respect our dead. I do not think that is too much to ask.