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Paulina   
7 Dec 2023
Classifieds / Polish Linguist Opportunity in Tampa FL [23]

Hmm, interesting... Judging by the job description and the location (MacDill Air Force Base)... Is it some kind of an OSINT job? 🤔
Paulina   
7 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

Not true.
They can be tried in the same way

It is true then that they can be tried as adults. And that's what the quoted fragment states.
Paulina   
6 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

It's bizarre. Minors are minors and should never be tried as adults.

It's the same in the UK... Actually, it seems like the age of those who can be tried as adults is even lower than in Poland o_O :

independent.co.uk/voices/responsible-child-prison-justice-reform-trial-crime-a9308671.html

"In the UK, children as young as 10 can be tried as adults for the most serious crimes. This is already one of the lowest ages in the world."
Paulina   
5 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

@Alien, PiS and... making illogical, flawed laws? How could that be?? lol:

areszt-tymczasowy.pl/wiezienie-dla-nastolatkow/?fbclid=IwAR0ug5iRZeMkMwT5jrib9pGfG36Nd0ntkUwzF9ve902wxj42ivnbzFOadfs

"Paradoksalnie sytuacja prawna 15 latka jest korzystniejsza niż 14 latka, który odpowiada przed sądem karnym. W stosunku do osób po ukończeniu 15 lat a przed 17 rokiem życia sąd może samoistnie zastosować nadzwyczajne złagodzenie kary. W odniesieniu do 14 latka takiej możliwość nie ma.

Ponadto kara wymierzana dla 14 latka przed ukończeniem przez niego 15 lat jest taka jak dla osoby dorosłej (dokładnie od 17 lat na potrzeby k.k.). Natomiast wobec małoletniego po ukończeniu 15 lat a przed 17 rokiem jego życia kara nie może przekroczyć dwóch trzecich górnej granicy ustawowego zagrożenia przewidzianego za przypisane sprawcy przestępstwo."
Paulina   
5 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

Then why they didnt?

They did. They were minors and yet they got 25 and 15 years in prison. They weren't sent to juvenile detention center. There are certain limitations in sentencing minors in Poland who are 15-16 years old - they can only get max 2/3 of the sentence an adult would get. Weirdly enough, as far as I understand, unlike 15-16-year-olds, a 14-year-old can get 100% of an adult prison sentence (that's PiS' invention).
Paulina   
5 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

I wonder if Poland prosecutors can charge a minor as an adult as in the US,depending on the severity of the crime?

Yes, they can.
Paulina   
5 Dec 2023
Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]

@Bobko, Jan Kobuszewski - died before 1874:

kielakowie.com/getperson.php?personID=I1726736&tree=tree381

Куйбышевский

That's "Kujbyszewskij". Similar, but not the same. Also, it seems to be only a place name and not a surname in RuSSia?
Paulina   
5 Dec 2023
Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]

@Kubu, don't listen to Bobko - he's a RuSSian imperialist.

Trying to find origin of surname Kubushefski there must be correct spelling somewhere.

It's Kubuszewski.

Most people think our name russian

It isn't Russian, it's a Polish surname.
Paulina   
5 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

@jon357, yes, somewhat - if you kill a police officer the lower bracket changes from "no less than 8 years" to "no less than 12 years" in prison. The punishment is harsher also in case of an attack on a police officer or a person aiding a police officer or an ordinary citizen if this person is intervening "to protect public safety and order".

It wasn't like that in the past - the law was changed after a cop Andrzej Struj got stabbed to death in 2010 during an off duty intervention - he overpowered a drunk hooligan who was throwing a dustbin at passing trams, but then another one runned up, grabbed him and held him while the first one was stabbing him with a knife. At that time the killers got 15 and 25 years in prison - they couldn't get life in prison, because they were minors. This case shocked not only the public, but also politicians and the law was changed.

A police medal was named after that police officer:

warminsko-mazurska.policja.gov.pl/ol/aktualnosci/102490,Policjanci-odznaczeni-przez-MSWiA-medalami-im-Andrzeja-Struja.html

medal
Paulina   
4 Dec 2023
Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [181]

Surprised no one's talking about the story from Wrocław

A lot of stuff isn't being discussed on this forum, so I'm not exactly surprised...

Not a lot of mental health on display...

Yup.

why weren't the arresting cops notified of this?

By who?
Paulina   
4 Dec 2023
News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]

Lots of places manage economic disruption without mass sexual exploitation....

I agree. It's not about a sudden strike of poverty, but about culture and people's mentality = the attitude towards women (and kids) and their rights, the level of patriarchy and misogyny in their society.
Paulina   
4 Dec 2023
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]

In Germany, this would be a criminal act punishable by imprisonment.

It seems that in Poland there would be consequences for such behaviour too:

infor.pl/prawo/kodeks-karny/odpowiedzialnosc-karna/285392,Co-grozi-za-niezawiadomienie-o-niebezpieczenstwie-dla-zycia-i-zdrowia-czlowieka.html

Btw, those neighbours from the situation that jon357 described could go to prison for not helping that guy with a heart attack. One could get 3 years for that in Poland.

I was told after the fire happened that the Polish staff were possibly worried about getting a bill.

A bill for what?
Paulina   
4 Dec 2023
Life / Trendsetter from Poland. [74]

I remember another Poland.

I don't. As far as social desensitization is considered - it's the same.
Paulina   
3 Dec 2023
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]

Not that it's an excuse to walk by on the way to church.

Of course, I'm just saying what kind of "train of thought" people could have in such a situation.

And they ignored your knocking, which is weird even by Polish standards, I think (at least where I live).

And when they came back and ignored him, he was definitely dead; when I saw him at about 2pm there was stuff coming out of his nose and mouth.

Jesus...
Paulina   
3 Dec 2023
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]

Most of the neighbours were churchgoers and walked past the dying man on their way to church.

It's possible that they thought he was drunk if he was known for drinking.

so we led the reception/accounts staff to call the fire brigade. They refused, saying that it wasn't their business.

Yeah, I'm somehow not terribly surprised... Appalled, but not surprised...

Btw, a few years ago there was a social experiment conducted in Poland (and filmed) showing a small kid without a jumper and a hat sitting on a bench in winter pretending to be trembling with cold. The people who reacted were in a minority. More people reacted in the same experiment in Norway (where the experiment was first conducted). This is the video from Poland (posted 7 years ago):



People in comments pointed out that it was mainly the young people who reacted. I'm not surprised by that either. There was even a middle-aged (or older) woman who said to the boy as she was walking by: "Isn't it too hot for you?" The boy answered that it's cold, but she just kept walking o_O

The same experiment was repeated recently in Warsaw by TVN in the "City Jungle" cycle and was aired, ironically, only a week before the death of the girl from Andrychów. 800 people passed by the boy and only 10 of them reacted (7 women and 3 men):

dziendobry.tvn.pl/gorace-tematy/eksperyment-dzien-dobry-tvn-sprawdzilismy-ile-osob-pomoze-zmarznietemu-dziecku-st7447265

Very simple explanation - people who walked past the site had no idea it was a person lying in the snow.

I thought that's probably what happened too when I read that fragment. I thought that maybe that banner was far away from the store in some big, open, empty area and so it was too far away for people to see. But then I saw a photo of how close that banner was to the store. I checked the Google Street View of that location and the banner was really close not only to the store and parking lot, but also to the pavement and a pretty busy street with a pedestrian crossing and traffic lights. I've watched an interview with a driver who said he saw the girl when she was still squatting next to some pole. Him and his wife stopped at the traffic lights and that's when they saw her and they wondered what is up with her. But they didn't stop to check, because they were in a hurry. Also, the guy you quoted (the father's friend who was looking for her) found her after a few hours and durimg that time the snow was falling apparently. So, at the end it's possible she was covered with snow. But what about earlier? According to unofficial info tens of people are seen passing by her on the CCTV footage from the store cameras. I wish they published that footage...

This is the Aldi store with the banner (the banner where the girl was lying is on the right side of the photo on the grass) and the street next to the store with traffic lights:


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Paulina   
3 Dec 2023
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]

From another thread:

Is there such social desensitization in Poland that 14-year-old girls freeze in front of a store?

It looks like it:

fakty.tvn24.pl/zobacz-fakty/kiedy-natalia-umierala-policjanci-przesluchiwali-swiadka-w-innej-sprawie-zarzucam-sobie-ze-czekalismy-st7465053

It seems that it may be a f*ck up by the police too. I myself have experienced social desensitization from adults as a teenager, but this is another level. I can imagine people ignoring an adult guy lying somewhere, because they may assume he's drunk (still, in winter people should react anyway), but a 14-year-old girl on her way to school? It's just unfathomable for me.
Paulina   
29 Nov 2023
News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]

Keyword is "Them"not the final consumer.

Welcome to capitalism! lol Don't tell me you rent out flats for free? :)

Time to say"Alexa" or "Hey siri"sing a lullaby,whatever you use.

?

So you do admit it is there?

Duh o_O You think I wouldn't know about such things? lol I'm a feminist, after all! :)

Btw, Poland advanced to the 8th place among the OECD countries on the Women in Work Index:

rp.pl/rynek-pracy/art38091581-kobiety-na-rynku-pracy-polska-awansowala-w-rankingu-oecd

The list for 2023 looks like this:

1. Luxembourg
2. New Zealand
3. Slovenia
4. Sweden
5. Iceland
6. Norway
7. Portugal
8. Poland

The US is on the 27th place! :O

Poland is one of those countries that was and is still profiting from having cheaper labour. At the same time the are also Polish companies that moved production abroad, like, for example, fashion brands:

wnp.pl/przemysl-odziezowy/gdzie-szyja-polskie-firmy-modowe-i-dlaczego-nie-w-polsce,463541.html

According to this article it's because we don't have enough factories of this kind in Poland and they're not modern enough or something.
Paulina   
29 Nov 2023
History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

they likely do know this history.

I honestly doubt it.

Africans know much more about European history, than Europeans do about African history

Which means not a lot, considering how little Europeans know about African history.

I have met many Africans at university and through work.

I can imagine those were not your ordinary African Joe :))))

Listen, Bobko, I have some idea about how little people in different parts of the world know about history of other parts of the world. I mean ordinary people and not someone studying at an Ivy League university in the US or whatever.

Of course, if someone actually went to school (which is not so obvious in Africa) they get some basic facts about world history and to some extent about European history. But even then, just like in Europe, if they learn about, for example, World War II, the focus is on their part of the world. So in Europe we learn more about what happened in Europe and the rest is not so detailed, very general or simply neglected. The same in China, for example, they learn some basic stuff about what was happening in Europe during World War II, but the main focus is on what was happening in Asia.

Also, what you mean by "European history" is in reality "Western European history". Yes, we in Poland also know Western Europe's history better than Westerners know the history of Central and Eastern Europe. And this is what I was talking about when I wrote about African "lack of knowledge about Europe's history - about what RuSSia was doing in Europe for centuries". Many Western European's don't know about that part of Europe's history, so how on Earth people in other parts of the world (not only Africa) would know about it? Politics can play a role too. Do you think that schools in communist China are teaching kids about Soviet rapes in Berlin or about the Katyń massacre? lol

And, sorry, but you'd have to also take into account the level of education in different parts of the world. There are, for example, villagers in countries like Pakistan, who don't know that the Earth is round (no, I'm not kidding). So give me a break...

They don't need your help in understanding your position.

Oh, I think they do. First of all, they don't even know our position or our history (the history of RuSSia's "near abroad"), so how could they understand it?
Paulina   
29 Nov 2023
News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]

It has happened in case of Japanese cars,now they are mostly made in the US.

It had to be profitable for them or they wouldn't have done that.

It is happening and in most of the developed world.

What is happening? Women earning less than men? And they are... still working? lol

BTW you are living in one,and dont even realize it.

The gender pay gap at median earnings in Poland is one of the lowest in the OECD.

Those consumers used to make 60 grand at the factory.

And that's why the production was moved to China, etc.

Only naive bootlickers like you believe that moving jobs to China is good for those left behind.

I don't claim that it's good. I'm saying what's the reality. People like stuff to be cheaper.
Paulina   
29 Nov 2023
News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]

Yes we can just levy higher import duty.

Let us assume that would happen and all the production would come back to the US. That would mean higher cost of labour for companies - less profit, more expensive products for consumers and American companies being less competitive.

Yes you can,pay them less called gender discrimination in modern world lol.

Unrealistic. It won't happen. And I wouldn't want to live in such a country.
Paulina   
28 Nov 2023
News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]

1. Bring factory jobs back from China and Mexico to keep well-paying jobs in.

Factory jobs were moved there, because the labour was cheaper there. Cheaper labour = bigger profit for the company and cheaper products for consumers. Those consumers include you and your family.

3. Ban abortions. See Poland.

That is a funny one considering that a stricter abortion law in Poland resulted in lower birth rate lol

These three moves would allow one person - typically the husband - to support the family of 4 or 5 on his own.

That's unrealistic. You can't make private companies move production back to the US. You can't force women to stop working. And even if you did and if you you'd get rid of the immigrants then companies wouldn't have enough labour force.

Besides, the on-going AI revolution makes this discussion pretty pointless, because it's hard to predict what jobs and how many of them will be available in the future. In the long run I'd be more worried about this than about immigrants, etc...

And, btw, I don't know about the US, but it's normal for working women in Poland to have two kids.

It can ban imports and not rely on exports at all. In this sense, the US is self-sustaining, save for rare metals.

Ah, another utopia and unrealistic idea...
Paulina   
28 Nov 2023
History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Hating on Russia for being rather more successful at it than others, seems comic. That's all.

Not really, because you could say that the West was also simply just "more successful at colonising than others" and hating the West for it would be "comic" according to you. But I have an impression that descendents of those colonised don't find it particularly comic... 🤔

"The 'Global South' might have more sympathy for the Western coalition against Russia, if they had a deeper historical appreciation of how Russia had oppressed its near abroad."

Yes, I think that could give them a more balanced view and greater understanding of this conflict.
Paulina   
28 Nov 2023
History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Chinese, Indians, Africans, and South Americans stubbornly refusing to see the Russians as the bad guys.

If you're so smart, you tell me what's going on?

I think it's due to the fact that the West has colonised those parts of the world in the past and so people there look at war in Ukraine through these "optics". I suspect it's also due to the lack of knowledge about Europe's history - about what RuSSia was doing in Europe for centuries both as tsarist RuSSia and as the Soviet Union.
Paulina   
28 Nov 2023
History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Defending small helpless countries is Russia's middle name.

OMG

Nobody, in the history of humanity, has spent as much blood, treasure, or political capital as Russia on liberating small, helpless peoples.

You mean "liberating" them from their independence and their lands. 🤮

Sorry, just a fact.

Sorry, but that's bullsh1t.
Paulina   
28 Nov 2023
History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Given how you usually like beating on liliputians like Gaza and Afghanistan - this must truly be a heroic battle on epic scale. I understand.

Now, now, don't be so modest - that's RuSSia's forte too - after all, Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine aren't exactly giants, especially if compared to RuSSia.

Yes, Miloslaw. Your bloc of a billion people is attacking 150M strong Russia, with just 73M labor force, and the fight still looks... close?

No, Bobko. Our bloc isn't attacking RuSSia. It's RuSSia attacking much smaller and poorer Ukraine and the fight still looks... close?