News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

It's amazing how women in Africa (a place notorious for being ridden with war, disease, malnutrition, and virtually non-existent health care) can easily pump out five children and they are still healthy enough (mother and entire brood) to then cross the continent on foot in order to settle in Europe.

But in Europe with its modern socialized healthcare system women have less than two children on average. And if you believe the bossy feminist lies (even in this thread) these same European women are always faced with giving birth to children who are conceived through rape or incest; their children are very likely to have terminal disabilities; and the mothers are somehow always at an above normal risk of dying during childbirth.

Why not add to the argument that having fewer children in Europe will be better for the environment (and reduce racism too!) while making room for more third world economic migrants.

Oh look, it's already being pushed:

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]


The Chinese always and only act in their own self-interests and it is measured in centuries from now. Currently Chinese priorities are in expanding control in their own Asian region and Africa. These moves are to secure resources like oil and minerals and in turn be a dumping ground for cheap Chinese mass produced junk. Any presence in Serbia is minimal and not important in their strategic long term goals.

As far as the Russians go the Turks went to war with them in the past; supplied Nazi Germany and otherwise sat on their hands during WWII; and thought nothing of undermining Russia's role in Syria even going as far as to shoot down a Russian fighter. Turkmen operating in Syria then shot at the Russian pilot as he descended in a parachute killing him.

The Turks and Russians know they can give Russia a good bloody nose and get away with it when they want to.

Remember that investment may give the impression of creating jobs locally but actually what it done for is to buy influence.

This tourist project sounds more like establishing a stronger foothold in the Balkans. It may seem innocuous at first until there are calls to expand business, which leads to an ever growing Turkish community which settles and eventually enters into local politics. Next thing you know the mosques go up as their population explodes and demands are made to cater to and protect their culture and language and religion.

Will the Turks reciprocate and invite Serbs or other Slavs to settle and expand in Turkey? Never.

Even if you imagine they would just look at what they did to the Greek community in Constantinople. It is virtually non-existent today. Look at Cyprus. Forever divided along ethno-theocratic linguistic lines.

Here is more openly published information regarding Turkey's expansionist foreign policies:

Turkey's New Maps Are Reclaiming the Ottoman Empire - Erdogan's aggressive nationalism is now spilling over Turkey's borders


foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/23/turkeys-religious-nationalists-want-ottoman-borders-iraq-erdogan

Even if Turkey doesn't intend to physically annex any territories in the Balkans they most certainly would want to have a pro-Turkish population there to support or at the very least remain silent in the face of Turkish expansion and interference elsewhere.

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]


Yes, the only constant in life is change. And sometimes changes are strategically planned well in advance.

But do you really believe an ancient enemy like the Ottoman Turks are going to invest in the long-term interests of Slavs or rather their own growing multi-million size Turkish diaspora in Europe?

'You Are the Future of Europe,' Erdogan Tells Turks


nytimes.com/2017/03/17/world/europe/erdogan-turkey-future-of-europe.html

Life / Polish and Czechs [191]


The Warsaw Uprising predated the Prague Uprising by a year.

Poles fought fiercely and courageously against the odds for three straight months where as the Czechs quickly gave up after only three days.

After the Nazis crushed the Czechs they fled Prague only because they preferred to be captured by the Americans rather than by the advancing Soviet army.

Life / To Poles: some food for thought [31]

@texas

Hypergamy drives the demand for more (which in a world of finite resources has to come at the expense of others) so that reproduction can be successful.

Life / To Poles: some food for thought [31]

@tired

You don't offer "some food for thought" but rather a poison pill which is currently killing the West.

Everything you ranted about against Poles and Polish society is nothing more than overused and hollow talking points of the sinister professional left.

Your extremist ideological views can be summed up as such:


And all your overgeneralized examples and your final sappy appeal for an emotional solution (i.e., "spreading love") have all been seen before and is yet another blatant tactic of the sinister professional left:


Above quotes from: Christina Hoff Sommers: The Threat to Free Speech aei.org/publication/christina-hoff-sommers-the-threat-to-free-speech/

Law / Visa for Work in Poland [29]


A very interesting insight regarding the non-stop enquiries on PF all throughout 2017 from the Indian subcontinent about finding work in Poland; most especially in the IT sector:

56,000 layoffs and counting: India's IT bloodbath this year may just be the start


qz.com/1152683/indian-it-layoffs-in-2017-top-56000-led-by-tcs-infosys-cognizant/

Note well, emphasized in bold in the quote above, what made them redundant. It wasn't high skilled African migrants flooding into India and willing to work at lower wages.

Nope, it was digitization and automation.

These jobs in India are gone for good.

Digitization and automation will increasingly become part and parcel of industry in Poland. This is all the more reason why these economic migrants (whatever claims they make on their CVs and assuming they are even literate to begin with) are truly not needed.

They are a surplus to requirements in their homelands and within the next five to ten years would be the same in Poland and the rest of Europe.

USA, Canada / What I don't get about Americans vs Polish [39]


Of course he didn't. The DNC has as much ethical standards as Zimbabwe's ruling ZANU-PF and South Africa's ruling ANC when it comes to how campaigns and elections are orchestrated.

Nevertheless, all leftwing ideologies are being rejected in the Northern Hemisphere particularly among younger voters like in Poland, the US, and most notably and recently in Austria.

USA, Canada / What I don't get about Americans vs Polish [39]


I agree. "Bigly" as he would put it!

The media are already untrusted especially with younger disenfranchised voters. More younger people will vote for Trump as more and more of them turnoff and tuneout from the leftwing propaganda machine. They will also vote for him while seeing more job opportunities for themselves as the economy expands and larger paychecks once Trump's 'Cut, Cut, Cut' tax bill is passed.

USA, Canada / What I don't get about Americans vs Polish [39]


You're wrong.

Trump won by a landslide despite all the allegations made against him.

His eye is on the next presidential election in 2020. All the fallout in Hollywood and news media that's going on at the moment shouldn't be seen as unconnected.

Trump previously said the media were the opposition:

Trump: Media is opposition party in many ways

Source: cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/27/donald-trump-media-opposition-party-sot-nr.cnn

Groper-in-Chief? Try Machinator-in-Chief.

Trump says he's 'not at all surprised' by Weinstein allegations

Source: dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1550661/Trump-says-s-not-surprised-Weinstein-allegations.html

He has dirt on people and it's payback time.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

Poles didn't elect the Pope and the Pope isn't a legislator.

But given that the current Pope would be more at home working for one of Soros' sinister NGOs it's no surprise to see you attempting to use him in a futile attempt at shaming Poles for refusing to take in unneeded economic migrants. And as usual you are big hypocrite as well since you openly despise the presence of the RCC in daily Polish life. If Poles ignore the Pope you should be thrilled.

And your comments are unsurprisingly completely off-topic given that the title of the thread is "Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums?"


Yeah, and that would explain the complete dearth of yeshivas in Poland despite left-wingers prancing in glee every time a Jewish-themed cafe opens or a tombstone written in Hebrew in a far-flung forgotten field is spotted.

Synagogue-avoiding cultural Jews like yourself must admit that the talmud and torah are the longest written jokes in history and that Jewish kids would be in open revolt having it crammed down their throats in a classroom knowing it has zero relevance in the real world.

Yep, another own goal - for you! And so bad that it's going to be hilarious watching you try to untangle yourself from the net especially given that the title of the thread is "Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums?"

USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [187]


I heard once there are more statues and other landmarks like bridges, parks, etc., dedicated to Kościuszko in America than any figure in their history.

But not everyone in America knows about him. And some don't even care as in the case of one statue of Kościuszko in East Chicago being stolen and then attempted to be broken down in order to be sold for scrap metal.

E.C. man sentenced to jail in theft of Polish-American statue

"An East Chicago man was sentenced...to six months in jail after he admitted to nearly sawing off the head of a statue of Gen. Thaddeus Kosciuszko. Israel L. Soberanes, 34, pleaded guilty to theft, a Level 6 felony...standing next to an interpreter who translated the hearing from English to Spanish, [he] said he accepted everything that was in the plea agreement...Soberanes and the co-defendant planned on scrapping it for money."

Source: nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/e-c-man-sentenced-to-jail-in-theft-of-polish/article_b4d9c395-4a06-5294-ac31-a88f045c1fbd.html

Other news reports said the statue has since been restored, returned and rededicated.

Anyway, there are nearly identical statues dedicate to Kościuszko in both Washington DC and Warsaw.





In fact, they are so closely matched that the one in Warsaw also includes the inscription "Saratoga West Point" to commemorate the British defeat there all thanks to Kościuszko!

USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [187]


Oh? But surely not as absurd as your fellow Brit Rachel Bull claiming to be Polish herself on national TV while launching into a public tirade against Polish immigration to Britain.

Our town's like a foreign country and locals can't cope with the immigrants, says mother after TV clash with academic on Question Time

She said her family is proud of its background and enjoy pierogi - traditional dumplings - from the local Polish shops.

My dad and brother used to go there every day as my dad speaks Polish, to explain to them that they have to move on because we were getting complaints from environmental health, and local residents were complaining...

I don't want it to be about them and us... but when resources are stretched that's when the animosity starts, and we don't want that'

Source: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264799/Our-towns-like-foreign-country-Locals-cope-immigrants-says-mother-TV-clash-academic.html

Hmmm. Let's see,

- fled Poland rather than stay, fight and rebuild - check;

- purports to have a Polish connection but simultaneous sneers at the presence of genuine Poles in her own community in Britain - check;

- will only touch the pierogi from the shops because there obviously isn't a tradition of making it at home - check;

- talks about "us" and "them" when it comes to "stretched resources" - check;

- first name is Rachel - check;

- surname isn't Polish - check.

Yes, it seems the poster idem has a lot in common with Rachel Bull.

Do you know if the poster idem has discovered her own "Jewish roots" as well?

USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [187]


Wow! You are so out of touch with reality. And you are a coward as well. These people who you claim are not Polish obviously never heard of you before because you certainly are not brave enough to tell any of them face-to-face what you think about them.

And I'm sure that in your small minded little world the Polish Government should be more worried about meeting an imposed quota from Brussels regarding African economic migrants with inflatable orange floatation devices wrapped around their low-IQ heads rather than meeting with talented, successful and cultured Poles whom you personally don't regard as being Polish.

But your opinion doesn't matter anyway. It's the Polish Government which is actively engaging with Poland's diaspora and well established organizations founded by and committed to Polonia.

For example, take the Kosciuszko Foundation over in the United States where President Duda attended a meeting in September 2017.

PRESIDENT OF POLAND ANDRZEJ DUDA VISITS THE KOSCIUSZKO FOUNDATION

Meeting with the Scientists of Polish Origin, Members of the KF Collegium of Eminent Scientists

The meeting was not only a chance to present to the President the current leaders and thinkers in these fields, but also to find ways to help further the education of the students in Poland who wish to study and learn abroad.

This recent and important meeting with President Duda, the Kosciuszko Foundation, and the Collegium will increase the dialogue between the Polish governments and the Foundation in order to raise awareness of Polish scientific achievements in the United States and encourage the younger generation of Polish ancestry to seek support from this rich Polish scientific community.

Source: thekf.org/kf/events/KF-News/President_of_Poland_visits_the_KF

Obviously you don't move in such important, influential and high level circles (unless of course you happen to wait tables at some of the catered events), but if you took the time you would discover that there is plenty of published information out there showing other regularly held engagements which are held between the Polish Government and Polonia all around the world with meetings and events held in Poland as well.


May the 2nd and held each year in Poland.

But of course you wouldn't know anything about it since the proclamations and celebrations in Poland are done in Polish and you are just another washed-up member of the Anglo expat loser back home/true forced loneliness/involuntarily celibate community who spends each day on PF (when not suspended or incarcerated) autistically ranting in English against Polonia.

Anyway, speaking of British losers and their resentment towards Polonia, did you know that 2017 marked the 200th anniversary of the passing of the great, history making Polish American hero Tadeusz Kościuszko?

No, of course you didn't.

There were many commemorations held on both sides of the Atlantic. Here is a just a glance at some of the activities:







And unsurprisingly there were no postings on PF about General Kościuszko at the time regarding his life not only as a giant of history but as a Pole living abroad in America.

I understand you lost your teaching job again. Shame that only because it could have been an opportunity for you to make amends here and inform Polish children of Kościuszko's pivotal role in defeating British tyranny.

Kościuszko masterminded the British defeat at Saratoga in the American state of New York. He oversaw construction of military fortifications at West Point which is today's home to the US Army Military Academy.

Here is some teaching material you could have used.

Presidents Duda and Komorowski have each attended solemn ceremonies at West Point honoring Kościuszko as a freedom fighter:

And the most important teaching aid you could have used is this one:

Yes! It's an actual coin in circulation commemorating the British defeat at Saratoga in the American State of New York and all thanks to Kościuszko!

And as you read this just know that there are 438,800,000 of these legal tender coins in circulation being used each day by over 9.6 million people of declared Polish origin in the United States and scores of other Polish nationals visiting and residing in the United States. Heck, there are very likely thousands of these same coins in Poland collected by numismatists and brought in as souvenirs by returning Polish tourists and as pocket change for members of the American military, embassy and business community.

You could have even set a challenged to see if any of your students had any of these coins at home.

But no.

Just another lost opportunity for you to be of any use in Poland.

You should save the image of the coin to your computer's desktop as a regular reminder that it doesn't just represent your home country's shameful past but your own personal dysfunctional present and bleak future as well.

The British, losers back home and losers abroad in any era.

USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [187]



You're wrong and Joker is absolutely correct in his statement.

There are both mutli-generational Polish American as well as Polish passport holding Polish nationals residing in Chicago and elsewhere in North America and around the world.

As a globalist civic nationalist (with obvious fealty towards Zionism) you and your ilk may despite the reality of the Polish diaspora but that doesn't matter because since 2002 the Polish Government has honored the existence and contributions of Polonia with official celebrations each year on May 2nd:

2 May celebrates Polish Diaspora and Poles Abroad Day

In 2002, the Sejm, on the Senate's initiative, "in recognition of centuries-old achievements and the contribution of the Polish diaspora and Poles abroad to regaining by Poland of independence, loyalty and attachment to Polishness, and for helping the country in its most difficult moments" decided to declare 2 May the Polish Diaspora and Poles Abroad Day.

Source: msz.gov.pl/en/news/2_may_celebrates_polish_diaspora_and_poles_abroad_day

This position was reaffirmed by the Polish Government in 2017:

Day of the Polish Diaspora and Poles Abroad

The largest Polish diaspora is located in the United States, where in 2012 over 9.6 million people declared their Polish origin.

In a speech delivered in Poland's Sejm in February 2017, Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski stressed that "the Polish diaspora and Poles living abroad occupy a unique place in the foreign policy of the Republic of Poland. They are members of our Polish family, a part of Poland in the farthest corners of the world."

Source: waszyngton.msz.gov.pl/en/news/day_of_the_polish_diaspora_and_poles_abroad

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]


Yes, the surnames Polok and Poloch may have developed locally centuries ago and within those communities and then to Polak in modern, standard Polish.

Whichever spelling of the surname, it shouldn't be assumed to have been used exclusively to identify an ethnic Pole among them. Rather it could have been used by any Kashubian or Silesian person as well who owned, lived or worked in, around, or on a field. Any local field and not just Poland proper.

Or vice versa. Using your example of the changing name of Hudzik and your original hypothesis of a non-Kashubian/non-Silesian Pole joining these communities he may already have had the surname Polak for generations and then simply changed the spelling to accommodate regional usages at the time. Again the name Polak was likely already being used and it too was more likely to have been based on an association to a local field rather than to identify with the first Polish tribes, the Kingdom of Poland, or any of the RPs.

Further to the guest poster's original enquiry, today any spelling of Polak assures that it is word of Slavic origin that is still common throughout Poland. Any variant of the name signifies long and deep associations with Poland's ancient history and an intimate link with the land itself rather than being redundantly descriptive of one's ethnicity.

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]

Perhaps. But in the case of a non-Kashubian Pole joining a Kashubian community it is more likely the surname would have been in adopted in Kashubian itself, i.e., Pòlôch.

Sure, there is a possibility that Pòlôch could then have translated back as Polak. But the distribution of the surname Poloch and Polak are not highest around the Kashubian speaking region of Poland.

Statystyka: Liczby do nazwiska 'Polak'
W Polsce są 21534 osoby o nazwisku Polak.

Statystyka: Liczby do nazwiska 'Poloch'
W Polsce jest 240 osób o nazwisku Poloch.

Notably though the surname Polok is highest around Silesia.

Statystyka: Liczby do nazwiska 'Polok'
W Polsce jest 3807 osób o nazwisku Polok.

Silesians are a proud bunch and rightfully so given the rich history of the area. However, its history still doesn't lend to the idea that a Pole from elsewhere in Poland would ever be compelled to have to identify as such either in Polish or in the regional Silesian dialect. The region changed hands too many times between Poles, Germans, Austrians, and even Prussians and ultimately Soviets for them to hold cultural sway whereby Poles would have to self-identify by using their surname as a label.

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]

Both terms are noted as being used in the Middle Ages.

Other non-Slavic languages today such as Turkish, Hungarian and Lithuanian still refer to Poland and Poles with references to a Lechia.

The name Lech itself survives today as both as first name and surname in Poland.

As far as if there ever was an actual transition of self-identification from Lechia to Polacy one could put it around the 10th century when the Christianization of Poland was recorded but surely it predates this.

And since the word "pole" (i.e., field) is similar among all Slavic languages then the use of the name among Poles would predate the 10th century and is now lost to antiquity.

Linguistic and social context would be necessary as well. Polacy has a literal ethnic-tribal element to it where as Lechia has a sentimental foundation myth to it.

It may seem odd or redundant today but when the surname Polak first came about people at the time would have likely have understood that it had a local topographical reference rather than an ethno-nationalist one.

The guest enquiring about the existence of the surname Polak in Poland shouldn't believe it was originally done by someone to demonstrate that they were more Polish than other Poles or that there was ever a need for a Pole to prove his ethnic heritage either to foreigners or when among foreigners or that it was imposed by foreigners onto a Pole for social reasons.

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]


The existence of the surname Polak in Poland doesn't imply it is a redundant ethnic self-identification or was foreign directed.

Serfdom did exist in the Poland up until the 18th century. Although there are accounts of land-owning magnates and szlachta regarding themselves as ethnically distinct from the peasantry who labored for them these nobles were largely Polish themselves along with Lithuanians and some of Ruthenian origins (the latter two groups which became Polonized themselves).

Despite the existence of a large social strata back then the nobles were not foreigners. Given the common usage of Polish as well there is no basis for anyone in the upper echelons of Polish society back then referring to any of their labors as a Polak and Poles in turn adopting this as a surname given to them.

There were also periods when Poland was under foreign occupation such as by Austro-Hungary, Russia, Germany and then the Soviets. But the seizure of Polish territories by these alien hegemonies occurred when surnames were already well established in Poland. These aforementioned occupying powers were not Polish speakers themselves and there is no evidence that they ever held such social and economic influence that they were in a position to refer to any natives Poles as a Polak and then Poles obsequiously adopting the term as a surname.

The surname Polak likely stretches further back in antiquity. Since "pole" is the Polish word for "field" the adoption of Polak could have been completely innocuous such as to refer to someone who worked in, owned, or resided in or near a field. For instance, it could have been given or adopted to distinguish two people named Jan one who lived within a village and one who lived outside it in the surrounding fields.

In other European countries people have similarly simple topographic surnames such as Field (in English), Feld (in German), Champ (in French), Campo (in Italian), etc.

Life / Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile? [512]

It's amusing that the OP for this thread claimed to be from the UK which historically has been known for its bad weather, worse food, deep social divisions, and a general national characteristic ranging from unapologetic anti-social behavior, to overt (and nothing to show for it) snobbery, to public reserve, to silent self-loathing and terminal despair.

So it's not very clear why the OP or any like-minded persons would expect Poles to show any positive emotions towards them. Such visitors to Poland are strangers anyway and always standout as foreigners no matter how long they stay.

Places like America and the UK escaped the hardship Poland endured following all the destruction during WWII and communist tyranny immediately there after.

Places like America and the UK also had a head start in enjoying unprecedented wealth creation. Yes, their slave trading/owning past and their respective imperialist and plundering forays around the globe played an important component to this. But in the recent century prosperity has been funded largely through continuous use of debt run along the lines of a Ponzi scheme.

It's fair to say then that the OP and like-minded persons suffer from not only hedonistic and narcissistic tendencies (commonplace now in places like the US and UK) but also the phenomenon of middle class guilt.

The rise in income and wealth disparities in the US and the UK over the past few decades also saw many of their citizens flock to self-help books, psychologists, chemists (aka pharmacists) and drug dealers.

They have been conditioned to expect uninterrupted happiness. They crave nonstop positive affirmation.

In short, they have slowly been losing their minds and seeing Poles not smiling at them for no particular reason fills them with uncertainty and dread.

They don't want to be in any situation or around any person which might wake them up to the reality that their perception of happiness is actually an ephemeral illusion.

Law / Visa for Work in Poland [29]


Yes, well, he did address his expectation for a job in Poland based solely on being an Indian to @brownMan, didn't he?

So now it's time for a reality check.

If you and your soulmate really thought that this other one time poster from way back in 2013 would be responding to him today with job leads in Poland then it's pretty obvious why he can't find any work back in unsustainably overpopulated India.

And why are you providing him sources in Poland when you were trolling earlier that he didn't expect to work in Poland?

It just goes to show your typical leftist agitation and his self-regarding obliviousness to Polish objections regarding non-EU immigration from Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

Companies are in Poland thanks to the Polish government making it an ever increasingly attractive place to do business. Businesses are also attracted to Poland due to the well educated and talented Polish workforce.

When companies start trying to import labor they are saying they are too cheap to pay locals a living wage. They are also signaling that as businesses they will pick up and leave at the drop of a hat. Over the past several decades thousands of businesses have moved their operations and headquarters out of Europe and North Americas to Latin America and Asia after squeezing locals dry and then leaving them behind with nothing but empty and decaying factories, warehouses, and business parks. And all those diverse workforces championed by these same businesses and their paid-off corrupt politicians were left behind and abandoned too.

Out of work, out of the middle class, and forever dependent on government handouts funded through un-repayable debt.

Anyone with a pulse and their eyes open has seen this pattern repeat itself.

Poles need to draw the line.

Law / Visa for Work in Poland [29]


Just stop it with your trolling.

This thread was started by an Indian in 2013.

This Indian guest poster from today comes to PF and responds to a second post also from 2013. The second post outlined what documentation would be needed by the Polish embassy to secure a work visa.

Today's guest poster is only one of countless others asking the same question over and over and over again in numerous threads on PF day after day, year after year.

But since you apparently are soulmates with Satbir Singh then as his spokeswoman you can tell the forum what his real plans are.

Law / Visa for Work in Poland [29]

Yes, he even said:


So his expectation is there just like it is with scores of other Indians and other third worlders sniffing around for a visa and job in Poland.

Again, what's he going to do? All he told the forum is that he is Indian. So what? Granted, that would seal the deal in fractured societies like Britain or America because their declining businesses have to prioritize filling diversity quotas out of fear of being sued rather than hiring the best talent. Not so in Poland.

The real Indian takeaway here from all their constant pleas for work in Poland is that overpopulation in their homeland is unsustainable. And it is not for countries like Poland to mop up their mess when there are working-age Poles (especially young Poles) who deserve to have jobs in Poland.

Law / Visa for Work in Poland [29]

@satbir singh

All you said is that you are an Indian and expect a good job.

What skills and experience do you have? Why should a Polish business go through the trouble to get you a work visa? Why should a Polish business give you a job instead of a Polish citizen?

News / Polish lorry driver attacked by migrants in Belgium [21]

Easy. Just declare a communist regime and you can literally get away with deporting, enslaving, and exterminating hundreds of millions of people and no one will ever question it. Certainly not the leftwing media, their so-called "academics", their anarchist hooligans, or their sinister NGOs.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Russia should pay Poland reparations.

The case is clear.

The communist takeover in war-torn Poland only came about through Soviet-backing and communist rule in Poland continued to be controlled out of Moscow.

For decades Poland's economy was stymied, Poland's environment was severely damaged, and the overall wellbeing of Poles trapped behind the Iron Curtain was seriously harmed due to Soviet policies which were criminal, negligent, and imposed without the true consent of the Polish people.

Poles were also displaced, imprisoned, forced to perform slave labor as well as murdered by the Soviets.

The perpetrators are still alive and so are their descendants.

News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]


Poland is still a sovereign nation. To borrow an equivalent American term, Poland has "states' rights."

It was Merkel's madness which woke Poles up to unelected and unaccountable Berlin-based EU tyranny trying to ram quotas of non-EU economic migrants down everyone's throat.

Even though Poles have taken advantage of the free movement of labor to go to places like Germany and the UK, Poland's economy has still been doing quite well over the past decade. Unemployment has been declining (most notably since PiS was elected) and was never nearly as high as some other EU countries have been especially Greece and Spain.

Greeks and Spaniards and others struggling elsewhere in the EU never left in waves to find a better life in Poland. But Poland has balanced things well though by bringing Ukrainians and Belarusians in to help fill vacancies.

I've said before that advanced economies are changing through ever increasing use of artificial intelligence and robotics.

The leftist dream of an international socialist revolution marching its way from the Third World to the West is dead. The need for labor is dwindling at an ever accelerating rate.

Finding consumers with sources of income (and the ability to still tax salaries or transactions made in the market place) will be the real challenge for governments and businesses in the 21st century and beyond.

News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]


Au contraire!

I never said that no-one moved to Poland during that 44 year period.

You were the one who remarked that "no-one really wanted to move" as if it were down to individual choice rather than state imposed restrictions.

You obviously need a serious lesson in Polish history because movement in and out of Poland while she was imprisoned behind the Iron Curtain was not akin to being in the Schengen Area today.

That is why I also said that "no-one really could move" but it was due to communist totalitarianism (which you deliberately didn't acknowledge).

And yes few could leave. You gave unsourced numbers that over 250,000 left in the 1950s and another in the 1970s. That's nothing especially when you take into account that Poland's population had grown from 30 million to 39 million during that time.

Now compare that to Polish migration today as well as during the 19th and early 20th century.

Checkmate!

News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]


The fact is that communist rule which lasted 44 years meant no-one really could move to Poland and few could leave.

Totalitarianism is a hallmark of communism.

History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]


Indeed. And some are paid to dance.

It's very interesting that only a few years ago your dance partner Harry's daily rants were all about falsely blaming Poles for pogroms, Nazi death camps, and any other tale of woe to be told by a Jew.

Now this is your routine while his moves have changed to stomping on Poles who express themselves at the ballot box as well as quickly passing a guilty verdict as soon as any allegation of a crime is made against a Pole.

Who pays you two?