Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


aka "human nature"


while technocrats (like Merkel) are busy blowing their economies on migrants who will never be able to contribute economically the countries they live in...

Human nature is what it is and it's not easy to change according to the whims of technocrats.

The highest standards of living in the world (for the broadest portions of society) were all about prioritizing citizens over non-citizens (US, UK, Japan, Canada et al). If you can't prioritize citizens the why ahve countries?

And if you don't have countries that means no public education or healthcare just every dog for himself which leads to a return to clannish tribalism as groups of people band together to protect themselves.

There is no escaping the human preference for group loyalties.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


And how, pray tell, could they prevent it?

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


You can't know that. Putin's Russia has already invaded one country and threatened to invade more.

Poland or Russia?

If you refuse to answer that means you would side with Russia (or you're a despicable coward afraid to let your true feelings known).

Which one?

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


Yes, you want to kill them all. Is genocide the Serbian national sport?


Let's play pretend: Russia invades Poland whose side are you on? Poland's or Russia's? No bullhocky about trying to mediate or the crucial role of Serbia. Whose side are you on if it comes to conflict? Poland's or Russia's?

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


Well a large majority of Lithuanian citizens are _extremely_ serious about the existence of Lithuania as an independent state and do not want to be in anyone's "sphere of influence".

Examine that.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

Let's not beat around the bush, you want Poland and/or Russia to invade and wipe Lithuania off the map because it's not Slavic enough? Am I right?

Lithuanians will seriously not agree with that prospect. It was hard for them to obtain independence from both countries and a large majority of the population would fight back against Slavic domination.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Actually I think the common denominator for a whole lot of things from Occupy Wall Street, Bernie Sanders, Brexit, Donald Trump and Golden Dawn are a grassroots rejection of a certain type of technocracy that does not take human nature into account.

The terrible effects of neoliberalism and multiculturalism are symptoms of the technocratic mindset that people all over the west are rejecting.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

Those are not the far right groups. The _Real_ and _scary_ far right groups are the ones that will emerge if groups like AfD are marginalized and artificially kept out of power by all the other parties ganging up against them (or phony measures like the delayed presidential electin in Austria).

The EU is going out of its way to signal that peaceful change is impossible.

Don't you dare act surprised if things get violent as a result.

Genealogy / Polish & Prussian/German town name cross-reference. [100]


Advertising and the advertising industry (once headquartered on Madison Avenue in NYC)

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


Actually Serbians decided to deprive themselves of it by moving en masse away from it (it's essentially useless territory) creating a vaccuum for albanians (who have lower expectations about standard of living than Serbs) to fill and then discriminating against albanians and trying to pretend there was a Serb majority there (which hasn't actually existed for a hundred years or so).

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


Why yes. Yes they did.

They probably were aiming at a Russian passenger plane which they were planning on using as a casus belli to fully invade Ukraine.

The Russian state hates any slav group that doesn't bow and grovel to them.

If they don't hate Serbia then..... guess why?

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


The accident happened on Russian territory, that limits Poland's options in terms of investigations.


Considering what an evil slug Putin is, that's a recommendation.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


They like fvcking with the Polish government's head....

Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]


I don't draw conclusions as much as working hypoetheses that are amended as new data is obtained. Of course making too many inferences from too little data is dangerous, but the alternative is to fly blind in almost all situations which is even more dangerous.

Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

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I wasn't submitting this to a peer reviewed journal, but mentioning personal experience.


Exactly, this comes from the 1990s where it was much harder to get around with just English. Still, Brits mostly didn't learn and Americans mostly did (I did mention there are counterexamples both ways).

I think it has something to do with American social networking. We like broad social networks with shallow connections (we like to know a lot of people but not necessarily deeply) At the time the only way to have anything like a broad social network in Poland was to speak Polish.

By contrast, IME Brits are more like other Europeans (esp northern Europeans) in preferring smaller social networks but with deeper connections so knowing fewer people bothered them less.

There's also the idea that most of the Americans I knew had chosen specifically to come to Poland while about half the Brits just sort of.... ended up here.

Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]


In my experience Americans are generally better at learning Polish than British or Irish people are (there are some exceptions both ways of course).

I remember at one time knowing about 4 or 5 Americans (no contact with the language in the US) who were fluent enough in Polish to deal with bureaucracy on their own with no interpreter. I knew a similar number of Brits at the same time who'd been in Poland for similar lengths of time and none of them could speak Polish for crap.

IME Polish is much easier to learn in situ rather than in another country. The learning curve is _very_ steep in the beginning and for the first two years or so it just seems like a hodgepodge of exceptions rather than a system. It's sometime in the third year it starts becoming a bit easier. The problem is you need an overview of the whole system and how it works before you can make much sense of it but once you have that you can predict things pretty well.

(English works in the opposite manner, it starts easy and then after a couple of years starts getting harder and harder).

My advice is first and foremost concentrate on nouns, pronouns and adjectives. For many people that seems to be counter-intuitive and they want to spend more time of verbs in the beginning. But the case system is really the backbone of the language. It should be the priority (don't neglect verbs entirely but don't go crazy over them in the beginning, the more you understand the noun system the easier verbs will be).

Whatever you do, don't spend a lot of time memorizing "aspect pairs" of verbs that's all but useless. I wasted a lot of time learning lists but the more I learned the less I thought about aspect (it largely takes care of itself in advanced learning).


No. The old US Airforce classification (specialized for Americans) put it in category 3, harder than French or Spanish (1) or German (2) but easier than Chinese or Arabic languages (4).

Language / Good Polish Music To Help Me Learn? [44]

I really liked this back in the day. At one time I had the first album more or less memorized.
The enunciation is pretty clear once he starts singing (ignore the mumbling in the beginning).

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


What does that accomplish? It seems more normal for a country to prioritize its own history and traditional festivals over newer arrivals.


How should the Gauls be referred to? What has Algeria ever done that Algerian culture should receive equal treatment in French schools? The French created a country that millions upon millions would like to live in. How many people is Algeria attracting (versus how many can't wait to escape)?

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


What does it mean to you?

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]

There are barely any non-aboriginal Australians? go back and read the comment again.

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


Non-aboriginal Australians are perfectly aware of what happens with mass migration - why should they be in favor of it?

Life / A nuclear family in Poland - is it a new trend in our society? [13]


I know you're old, but _that_ old? Check out ethnographies and you find that independent nuclear families are extremely rare across the world (and are polygynous famlies "nuclear" to you?)

Life / Poland - what is your brand? [39]


I think somebody needs a hug!

(((((((Albany NY))))))))

better now?

Life / Poland - what is your brand? [39]


No one = four more than get along with you....

Life / A nuclear family in Poland - is it a new trend in our society? [13]


Then why isn't it found more often in pre-industrial peoples? If it were so natural you'd think that parents and offspring would be the building blocks of more systems. It isn't. And it carries with it certain problems.

When does an adult's primary nuclear attachment stop being the family in which they are children and start being the nuclear family in which they're parents? This is an interesting point because Polish culture has never definitively answered whether adults should show primary loyalty to their spouses or parents (and one reason why meddling parents-in-law cause so many young marriages to fail).

Life / A nuclear family in Poland - is it a new trend in our society? [13]

The nuclear family is actually kind of an anomaly. The tight-knit extended family is the norm and is very reliable and durable (thought it tends to impede innovation).

The nuclear family was created by and for the industrial revolution and tends to be inherently unstable as the relationships are too charged.

Polonia / POLES vs BULGARIANS [160]


Why would this be a decision to be made by Russia?

Polonia / POLES vs BULGARIANS [160]


Don't take it seriously, nothing on this forum is very representative of Poland.


Most of the time most Polish people don't think of Bulgaria at all (a little too far away) or they think of it as a nice place for a seaside vacation.

They think of Serbia even less. Crow is on a one-man quest to create a Pan-slavic empire headed by Serbia (and Poland Russia becoming allies is apparently part of that mad dream) and no one takes him seriously.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


The conscience clause does not allow him to to refuse to give a referral to a doctor prepared to carry out the procedure in question. That's why he lost his job. Had he simply said "I can't do this, see doctor X" no one would care.


But I bet he got off on knowing she was suffering while carrying to term a fetus with no chance of life beyond suffering.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

And enjoy their patients' suffering, not unlike a certain Dr Ch....