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Oathbreaker   
3 Feb 2022
News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [632]

@Vlad1234
I have yet to meet a Pole who hates anyone based on Orthodoxy. I hear a lot about English negative vibes towards catholics, I heard Irish vibes about protestants. I heard bad vibes about muslims from Poles. Yet to hear bad vibes about Orthodox. Only I have heard about Orthodox is criticism of them, and that's with regard to politics and placing a emperor or king above their church, and leaving matters of the church in their hands which sounds ridiculous to me. Since Jesus Christ have told us, why have other lords when God is the lord of lords. Or something similar in this manner. (This is not a direct citation, just writing what I remember)

Largest conflict Poland has had with Orthodox Church (more strictly conflict with Russian state power who decided that) was forced transformation of churches from catholic to Orthodox during Russian partition. Later it was tried to amend that by transforming them back that provoked anger and worse relationship with Ukrainians (maybe Belarusians too?)

Seeing that one of Christianities greatest triumphs was defeating the pagan Roman Empire (which massacred Christian's in circuses through crucifixion and letting animals eat them alive). So seeing the Orthodox Church trying to put an emperor or king as head of their state questions their legality wether they truly belong to the kingdom of heaven to be honest. Correct me if I am wrong
Oathbreaker   
2 Feb 2022
UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]

Forums are exactly for this purpose - to rant and to "troll", trolling being defined as anything others don't like.

No it's not, can't you pay for circus tickets if you really want to experience it so much?

@Tanya1
No need to be polite with me, I am Polish (born in Norway), a catholic (papist is what you there in England call us?) and got a Scottish friend with great distaste of the royal household. So you can start swinging all you want love
Oathbreaker   
2 Feb 2022
UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]

if you want your country to be educated, progressive

Why would anyone want that? Except for inferiority complexed arrogant teachers who gaslight an female audience to increase their chance of spreading their DNA without any regard for society and it's health?

Just check out Karl Marx's bio and you will understand it better.

Self-destructive patterns for the U.K? Why should I stop you?
Oathbreaker   
30 Jan 2022
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

@Lenka
Depends, when speaking bloodlines, family dynasty etc and comparing with each other it's to assess proximity or distance with regard to each other and wether some old feuds are still going on.

Pride&arrogance however based solely on that is quite damning as it put's a very high bar to surpass. Especially if it's only for the purpose of bragging, then it becomes a mute point.

For nobility in general, gaining honor, reputation, renown and achievements score a lot higher then money.

Saying that it can't be inherited is like annulling said family's achievements. Especially in the eyes of the beholder, perspective is different on such matters.

It's not only what one individual earns (that's like medals etc) nobility is earned for all future lineage. As long as traditions are uphold
Oathbreaker   
30 Jan 2022
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

@pawian
Not very noble tho, such connections are not meant to be bought but earned.

It disgusts me internally when people only think about money or status when talking about it. Such people have it harder to be anything close to it
Oathbreaker   
30 Jan 2022
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

@pawian
Shamefully I must admit that there was a time when some noble families were bribed to adopt new members to increase their status. Which lead to adoption being unlawful, as there is no institution in place to regulate it. Only noble families themselves can keep each other in check and demask frauds.
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Cojestdocholery
Correct, it equals Polish nationality
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Cojestdocholery
Maybe he thinks the guys ancestry was from areas of the "wielkopolan" or "małopolan"

@Vlad1234
There are something called "false friends" linguistically. Cause of historical context
Ruski -> person with connection to old Kiev Ruś

Rosjanin-> Russian (in Russian context person affeliated with continuation of Kiev Rus, while from Polish perspective a person connected with principality of Moscovy that evolved in to modern day Russian Federation)

So to a Pole, a Belarussian, Ukrainian, Russians or Poles with eastern european ancestry can be called "Ruski"

Cause of said Poles disliking distancing from being Polish (and comparing to eastern slavs and not being considered western) can be taken as an slight, insult or provocation.
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Cojestdocholery
Russian historiography is heavily influenced by Soviet communist rhetoric. "Liberated" can mean everything from liberating working class from Polish nobility, landlords, shopkeepers (who decide prices...), beurocrats who are backed by the military to demand taxes and opresses, clergy who has authority on religious grounds (communism generally speaking only aknowledges itself as the only legitimate authority based on it's goals) and any other group/authority is to be fought without mercy (one of the reason power hungry control freaks find it appealing)

So yeah, from Soviet perspective taking away Nazi German control from Poland was liberating cause any Soviet control is liberating in their eyes.

While from Polish perspective wether the handcuffs being put on by a person speaking German about race or a Russian speaking about global equality doesn't make much difference except in living conditions and it's scope.

It's like comparing different prison facilities
North Korean vs American one
As an example
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@pawian
With regard to Mickiewicz, it's like native americans claiming him to be from their tribe simply if he was born in the U.S.A.

That's how absurd it sounds to Poles
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Vlad1234
Any move against Lenin's body or statues is like a staple that they are no longer feared and are losing power/influence.

First sign of trouble/testing of power is removal of statues etc. Which is why power people are allergic to removal of such symbolism. It shows an inpending doom of them or first step in removing them from political scene. As long as Lenin is there, they can feel safe about their current situation, it's like a scout post. A watchtower, meant to signal about an inpending attack.

Since most attackers, attack such "nerve centers" first. Then one can sleep safe before taking it seriously.

Pearl Harbour was such a wakeup call watchtower. Just like twin towers for U.S.A

Very simererily with demands of conversion from Orthodoxy for Russians in the past and placing nukes on Cuba during the cold war.
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Vlad1234
I was more focused on how the topic was presented in the Russian Federation about, with regard to Nazi-Germany it was expected for the Soviet Union to be an opposing force internationally on the diplomatic scene, with the lack of Soviet discouragement cause of Soviet policy encouraging German expansion in to Poland.

It clearly showed Soviet foreign policy having goal of expanding in an Imperialistic manner which in the years of: 1944-1953 proved to be true.
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Vlad1234
I guess you didn't know but, there was a heavy toll war between Poland and pre-Hitler Germany up to that point. Signing a "non-agression" read: -> not having conflict <-

Means also signing a truce with such matters.

Last time I checked Germany trained their tank crewmen in the Soviet union pre-1939

Can't remember German tank crewmen being hunted by Soviet border guards...

It went simply from open hostility without armed military warfare to "cold shoulder" and unwilling talks, yet Russians seem to present it like some form of birthday party
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Vlad1234
Are you misunderstanding things on purpose? Non-agression pacts in general are not alliances. Formally speaking, Nazi Germany and Soviet Union by signing the R-M pact tried to pretend it was merely a non-agression treaty broken in 1941. Yet evidance show that it wasn't only non-agression but, co-operation in dividing influence, spheres and exchange of information with regard of fighting their enemies.

It's a good sign that Russians are ashamed of it, by not wanting to be calling it for what it is. Yet it's reaching absurd levels of self-delusion if this continues
Oathbreaker   
26 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

Soviets never claimed moral superiority while at it.

Liberating the opressed working class doesn't ring a bell? Lol
Oathbreaker   
26 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@pawian
It's a Soviet symptom, trying to be morally superior by performing morally abhorant actions.

I don't know if it's guilt or them wanting to be morally good or just want a popular standing.

Russians want to copy cat Roman Empire or Mongolian Empire and expand as much as possible. Even at ones own expense to a higher degree then other peoples (which easily leads to disregard of human lives and self-destruction)

I only wish for them to find a goal of being a slavic state similarly to Poland, and not a semi/quasi roman/mongolian-empire
Oathbreaker   
26 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [194]

@Vlad1234
Neutral relations don't allow foreign submarines to dock and be supplied near Murmansk nor helping by breaking icebergs to help German subs to be transferred to the pacific to sink British and american convoys nor transferring loads of vital necesarry food supplies to help feed the German population. Collaborating secret services with regard to fight/eliminate Polish resistance movement.

Stalin tried to bide his time and wanted Germany to bleed out in the west with hope of repeating WW1 situation. It was gravely miscalculated (which also lead to greater army leadership independance post-1941 which lead to gaining a larger advantage for the red army grafually. While German leadership being blocked more and more not only by resources but, orders too.

Soviet envisioned Poland to be the wests pawn, just like nowadays the Russian perspective has been "NATO's lapdog"

Until Russians start thinking seriously and take Poland seriously there won't be much of any dialogue
Oathbreaker   
22 Jan 2022
News / New American Ambassador to Poland? [26]

@Novichok
Any group of people siding with the forces of evil with the goal of overturning the society and bringing chaos, ruin and destruction of the common man, laws and civilization are not to be trusted nor suitable for any office.

Those groups are a threat as they paralyze and destabilize nations + creates division to the advantage of said nations adverseries.

One word for that: "treason"
Oathbreaker   
8 Jan 2022
History / Chances of Moscow becoming part of Poland again? [102]

@jon357
Every person should be treated equally, doesn't mean we are equal even one bit. What your writing about is the formal theory of it. In reality every person that votes has a more valueable vote then those who don't simply becaouse their interests will be prioritized to voe by the political parties. Then you have the organized votes (members of political parties.)

Why do you think political factions make deals between each other? Cause they have an organised voter base.

How often does PO go to Mr. Kowalczyk and ask what he needs?

Basically never, only by speech or media.
Oathbreaker   
8 Jan 2022
History / Chances of Moscow becoming part of Poland again? [102]

@jon357
Try and say that again after a celebrity officially says who he/she voted for during an election...

I can guarantee you, that a lot of people would suddenly start voting and on same party as the celebrity. Then tell us his/her vote counts no less or more :)
Oathbreaker   
30 Dec 2021
History / The reasons of Polish pride? [112]

@Novichok
Germany doesn't arm itself to the teeth as much as possible, wandering from door to door with his arsenal at the slightest sound of trouble shooting up doors without knocking first and raping at every possible opportunity.

Germany spends money on buying necessary tools and food for his family and closest friends without necesarily sharing everything with everyone even tho he propagates that the entire neighbourhood is like a family to him and doesn't anymore fights. Peeps got something against Germany, his past and current behaviour but, he is working on it in a non-violent way.

Still being kind of authoritarian but, through different means. Which are far more acceptable or tolerable.

Your writing as if Russia is some kind of superstar cause Russians think of themselves like that, and try to play it out. Even one can see it's pure bullshit
Oathbreaker   
22 Dec 2021
News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Money (in the sense of capital) is the world's greatest evil. It's killed far more people than all wars put together.

Definitively not, followers of evil, those who idolize things above God, good and cave in to temptations, selling their soul for the purpose of feeling better then others and willing to ruin themselves in the pursuit of ruining others instead of building them up.

Money is a technology, that made it easier to transport heavy metals such as gold in the past by simply having aknowledged paper pieces or cheaper (less valued/wanted metals) to symbolise/represent gold as currency cause of their lighter weight and to combat trickery and risk of losing amounts of gold. (Easier to protect huge piles of gold you don't need to move then transport it all the time)

It's when trust in your neighbour and fellowman gets distorted and goals of plundering each other instead of co-operation in building a common future which can be agreed upon between another ruins society as a whole.

In the modern age, there is a huge competition about ones place in society. Pursuing status, wealth, fame, popularity to increase ones chances within the male/female dynamics and increasing ones acess to highest possible quality of nourishment or wants.

Which is a stark contrast to the world of pre-american revolution where ones position in society was already decided upon birth, relatively secure and unaccessable for people outside of said group.

The more ambitious merchantile middle class within american and french societies, who based their lifestyle, income on trade, communication and urban life came to dominate the political landscape and way of thinking as industrial production became more and more tied with military conflicts and more people with acess to weaponry became a larger force to be reckoned with.

Due to the new levels of organisations within societies the political elites were unable to procure the sole guarantee of stability and peace within the country. Relationship with the population became more important and the factions within a country who could provide the best possible benefits to the largest possible extent became a much larger force to be reckoned with then factions who focused on advising the head of state.

Which is why among other reasons a more democratical approach is needed nowadays with easily replaced roles within the top positions.

It's not only a tool to combat corruption, but also builds upon the idea of anyone being allowed theoretically to become a head of state without having to be tied a certain genepool or family dynasty but, with enough support thanks to wealth and good communication.

The system that is set up nowadays makes it easier for certain factions who specialize in said abilities to have a larger acess to material wealth and the picking of potential mates.

It has also made it more volatile and chaotic, leading to larger extents of conflicts (ww1, ww2) cause of any form of blame game having larger consequences. (Race, agenda, despised factions, tyrants, take your pick/cause/explenation)

Simply saying money is evil, is a simplification of the said reality. It's like saying that rape is caused by the attractivenes of women, so women are the reason for rapes happening.

The people performing evil to obtain money illegally should be held accountable, just as rapists for raping.
Oathbreaker   
21 Dec 2021
News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@PolAmKrakow
And U.S.A isn't the navel of the world anymore which it was post-1991. That time has passed, U.S investments have proven to be politically troublesome to say the least. Militarily it's comforting until leadership decision with prioritizing Germany over Poland when in conflict with Russia is the biggest possible red flag the U.S political landscape could ever do in Polish-U.S relations. Thankfully for Poland it was done in ignorance and not in spirit of damning Poland to such levels like Prussian realpolitik of pre-partition times. So Poland should be fine, but major shifts in geopolitical strategy needs to be done and only the republican landscape can salvage it. South Korea will be an option, China, France (to a certain degree), Norway and Finland.

While U.S is a strong ally and good to have, the recent crisis has put doubts upon it. Political plans and relations cannot be built on doubts. It would be careless, U.S business firms and their need for investments will easily be disregarded if Poland's sovereignty is at stake.

I don't think U.S would give two hoots about a Polish company investing in the U.S if China was massing up hundreds of thousands soldiers at her mexican border
Oathbreaker   
18 Dec 2021
News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Anyone thinking Poland can muscle Biden

You thinking Biden isn't an old senior who should been in a nursing home...?

Anyone can wrestle him, why you think Putin is having his fun now? International comedy!

U.S istitutions, beurocracy, advisors, military branches however is a different story. As long as their reputation isn't at stake then Russia, Poland, Germany, China and Turkey can do as they please. His rhetoric only and the rhetoric of his ambassador to Poland's speech only shows he has lackeys repeating Democrats propaganda and can't be taken seriously, he and his closest advisors have no clue about eastern European affairs at all.

Basically the institutions can gain tremendesly high amounts of influence from being passive so that Biden and his closest to him will make every mistake possible, which will only lead to an increase of influence for the military-industrial complex, beurocratic connections and those involved in backing Biden's biggest democratic party competitors.

From Poland's perspective it's great cause Poland as a whole needs good relationship with the U.S administration regardless of party leadership.

Question is at what cost, Ukraine will most likely pay the price. How tho?
Oathbreaker   
13 Dec 2021
News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]

@Bratwurst Boy
Luxembourg is a good example cause E.U is not such a strong superstate yet! Which we both know! And I can retort with it's nice existance before 1914, and 1918-1940 and after 1945.

Somehow I cannot remember it stopped existing, few years of occupation doesn't seem to throw it's legitimacy into such dissarey as you think it has!

Next!

I don't know if you have noticed, but there is a gigantic urbanization going on. With the pandemic, it should have been a bit reduced tho.

The day a country stops developing, is the day it starts decaying. Growth gotta be!
Oathbreaker   
13 Dec 2021
News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]

@Bratwurst Boy
Same argument with uno reverse card
How can tiny lil Luxembourg not been eaten yet by big meanie eanie Germany and France?

Try again

Besides, even tho U.S.A is a gigantic state. It's sucess was largely based upon it's largely untouched private sector and public effort to populate and develope it's most barren yet ressourceful regions. Also by not being bombed, conquered and left alone mostly during two world wars let it prosper undisturbingly, it wasn't until the vanity hit america and cockness x100 factor where public spending increased (we can afford it attitude) and less minding of quality (which was a trademark for the U.S products pre1990.) and globalization, transferring production over to China to save money on workers income (which is a tremendous error).

With ever increasing concern over acess to the federal budget (social benefits, pensions etc) the immigration begun to be an issue for those who didn't want competition over said privelieges. So the tide of immigration which helped U.S.A to grow demographically, by increasing amount of tax payers and consumers (more consumers, larger market) became a problem for most americans instead of the understood reason for it's sucess.

European states have tried to immitate it mostly with immigration while having large social benefits, and without thinking about developing rural areas.

When was it last time a european state wanted to begin a city? And how many the last 60 years? It should give you a clue. While China is developing silently everywhere it can, and people are worries about Taiwan... Taiwan is only a prestigious issue for sure for China. And is a nice deflection from everything else
Oathbreaker   
13 Dec 2021
News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]

@BB
#838

That's the gist of it, until partitions it was mostly and easily seen as a nobleman's cause, ignored by most of society since the nobility had the most to say in it. During partitions all Poles felt how it is without ones own country, being ruled by non-Poles.

The more the agenda of a centralized Europe is being pushed artificially, the more backing it loses. Besides a stronger federalization would only serve to maintain an large profesional conventional army, such armies can easily be destroyed by nuclear arnemants. In modern times, drones, intelligence services, special forces and hackers can create far larger consequences and influence faster and cheaper.

What would an army of 500,000 troops help from all of europe if 30 special forces breached a nuclear power plant in France, hacked it. Downloaded all info, then set for it to blow up?

Just imagine it, it's not Napoleonic times any more nor ww1. Frontlines nowadays won't stop an advancing army, only to be a target to be attacked first.

Skirmishes, intelligence, propaganda, public opinion and swift reacting special forces able to reach quickly most of the globe + drones do not require a strong super state, but co-operative research teams and enough funding. For a state budget to increase long term, one needs to increase growth, not reduce it. A large state would rather hinder growth to achievements you so admire cause... China uff iz so big on map.

My question is: and?