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The reasons of Polish pride?


andrew turpel 1 | -
11 Aug 2013 #1
What are some reasons to be proud to be polish? All my friends back up their reasoning with "because its awesome!" I would like some better reasons
goofy_the_dog
11 Aug 2013 #2
well check out our history.
we are country from 966, so our country exists for more more than a thousand years.
Wulkan - | 3,251
11 Aug 2013 #3
All my friends back up their reasoning with "because its awesome!"

I'm sorry that you have a low class Polish friends
pakol - | 20
11 Aug 2013 #4
Cause we are brave, fighting enemies through generations and often beating them when they outnumbered us.
goofy_the_dog
11 Aug 2013 #5
check this out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna

poland fought for a month in 1939 campaign fighting against Germany and the Soviet Union.
Meanwhile France a country much wealthier and with a much bigger army than ours was defeated in a month only by the Germans.

read about the defence of westerplatte, or the defence of the Gdanska post office.
Read about warsaw uprising or the fight after 1945 against the Russian occupant.
The Ak and the NSZ.
The information is all out there!
kondzior 12 | 1,074
11 Aug 2013 #6
The question you asked seems simple, but the answer is much more complicated. There is something that one of our writers, Gombrowicz, called "the Polish complex". It is a prevalent way of subconscious thinking about ourselves, that we are backwards, worse and that we've got to compete with western Europe to prove that we are their equals.

Younger people are mostly free of that complex. Older ones mostly aren't. It can be seen easily in the media, when fe. a western music star comes to visit Poland he is constantly bombarded with questions "do you like it here? how do you like the fans? have you seen this? have you been there?", it's masturbatory. Even David Lynch who has always said that he loves Poland and the city of Lodz is asked the same questions over and over again in almost every fuc*king interview.

The older ones with the complex most of the time have contradictory feelings about migration. They are happy that "we'll show them how great we are", and on the other hand "they shouldn't leave, they left the country, they shouldn't be allowed to come back".
Crow 139 | 8,171
11 Jul 2019 #7
Merged:

Polish pride - yes or no - would Poles find their scent



Poland can exist only as proud. Tell it to yourself, to your children.

Don`t buy BS. Its not nationalism. Its life or death. Its existence or no resistance. Its patriotism.

Racowie are with you. And let them lie on us. Let them. Its just normal for weaklings and dishonorable people to lie.

Poland is sacred! Protect Poland, save her!

Down with EU, don`t with Islamic league, down with NATO!
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
12 Jul 2019 #8
Jan Sobieski, Kopernikus, Chopin, Mickiewicz (first great modern nationalist poet), the composer Karol Szymanowski, Mme. Curie, Jan Kiepura, Karski, Wojtyla.
Andrzej Wajda, Tadeusz Kantor, Jerzy Grotowski.... are plenty good reasons for me.
mike larry - | 3
17 Jul 2019 #9
There is nothing to be ashamed of being Polish. We're proud of being Polish and we don't have to prove anything.
Read about Witold Pilecki, Irena Sendler, Tadeusz Kosciuszko, Ignacy Paderewski,Mikolaj Kopernik, Jan III Sobieski
pawian 171 | 12,080
17 Jul 2019 #10
Every nation has scored some great and as well as lousy moments in their history. Poland isn˛t worse or better than other countries. It is normal that a typical patriot of their country, whether a Pole, German or American, etc, should be proud of their nation. Let`s be proud without being chauvinistic cause that`s a harmful exaggeration of patriotism.
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
17 Jul 2019 #11
You forgot Kazimierz Pulaski:-)

Of course, mike larry, that's my whole point in post #8!
Joker 1 | 1,458
17 Jul 2019 #12
You forgot Kazimierz Pulaski:-)

He is well loved in Chicago. We have a street named after him and a holiday in his honor.
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
17 Jul 2019 #13
Not forgetting about renowned Polish-Americans from the Windy City, such as Art Royko.
Joker 1 | 1,458
17 Jul 2019 #14
He was very famous and a literary genius, I used to enjoy reading his columns in the tribune. Iron Mike Ditka is another famous Chicago Pol-Am, still going strong!
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
17 Jul 2019 #15
Poles are to Chicago what Irish, Italians, and Hispanics are to New York, for example.

In addition, Chicago had its version of a "Polish mafia", dramatized in the classic "Calling Northside 777" (1947) with James Stewart, featuring a fictional Polish-American, down on his luck sort named Frank Wiecek (pronounced "WHEETCHECK in the movieLOL) and his involvement with the Meatpacking Mob, which our hero, Jimmy Stewart, tries to infiltrate!
Joker 1 | 1,458
18 Jul 2019 #16
nd his involvement with the Meatpacking Mob

Hey, did you read read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair back in H.S. its one of my favs! You'll never open up a can of corned beef afterwards...lol

Poles are to Chicago what Irish, Italians

Although, there are many Poles in Chicago, it pales to the Irish, they built most of this town and still control a majority of unions and government agencies for decades.

Remember, Mayor Richard M. Daley " The Boss"? Chicago is the headquarters of the Democratic political machine.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
18 Jul 2019 #17
poland fought for a month in 1939 campaign fighting against Germany

Why? There must be some logical explanation that I missed.
pawian 171 | 12,080
18 Jul 2019 #18
Why? Probably for the same reason why Texans fought a hopeless battle at Alamo. When you-know-who asks you about Alamo`s sense, do you also tell her you don`t know why? :):)
Ziemowit 13 | 4,038
18 Jul 2019 #19
Never heard of the Alamo battle, but I suspect that the state of Texas tried to repel the U.S. invasion and agression against them. Why was the battle hopeless?
pawian 171 | 12,080
18 Jul 2019 #20
The Alamo was defended by about 200 Texan volunteers against the thousands Mexican army. All defenders died except for 3 people - a female, her child and a black slave/servant. A famous gesture of one of the commanders before the battle was drawing a line in the sand and saying: Who is with me, cross this line. They all crossed the line and they all died.

I suppose Texans are very proud of their heroic last stand.

Check out this joke by my fav American cartoonist:



Ziemowit 13 | 4,038
18 Jul 2019 #21
So what was the logical explanation of this heroic stand as demanded by that smart American ass Rich Mazur?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
18 Jul 2019 #22
Smart American ass or not, what is a sensible answer to my simple question in #17 above without lame analogies?
pawian 171 | 12,080
18 Jul 2019 #23
So what was the logical explanation of this heroic stand as demanded by that smart American ass Rich Mazur?

We must wait for Rich to get up and voice his opinion on the Alamo. Then we can try to compare it to our opinions on the Polish fight against Germans in 1939.

Edit: He got up but is trying to wriggle out of answering about the Alamo. That`s not too manly - first he provokes and then immediately withdraws to the forest like a partisan. :):)

above without lame analogies?

A genius like you should understand that lame analogies are usually a result of lame questions. :):)
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
18 Jul 2019 #24
Looking for analogies takes more effort than answering a question directly. Especially an easy one like mine.

So, again, why, knowing the outcome, would anyone offer 100%-futile resistance against an overwhelmingly stronger enemy that is prepared to flatten Warsaw and kill women and children while at it? Was it like suicide-by-cop? Or did the Polish army actually think that they can make Germany turn tail and run back home?

So, why don't you, the historians, answer it directly without patronizing me with the events that have no connection with Poland.
pawian 171 | 12,080
18 Jul 2019 #25
... stronger enemy that is prepared to flatten Warsaw and kill women and children while at it?

Let`s change it a little: would anyone offer 100%-futile resistance against an overwhelmingly stronger enemy that is prepared to take the Alamo fort and kill all defenders while in it?

Or did the Polish army actually think that they can make Germany turn tail and run back home?

Or did the Texan volunteers actually think that they can make Mexican army under general Santa Maria turn tail and run back home?

me with the events that have no connection with Poland.

Not physical connection, no. But the same moral issues are concerned. Alamo and Polish war 1939-45 are based on the same principle - a strong conviction that people have the right to be free.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
18 Jul 2019 #26
Why was the battle hopeless?

It wasn't Z, Texas won a couple years later if you haven't noticed. lol
Also did you notice in all your googling that the State of Texas is more than twice as big as the country of Poland ?
A Polish teacher teaching American history from Google is most entertaining and comical. lmao
We got a little OFF -Topic here haven't we people ?????
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
18 Jul 2019 #27
against an overwhelmingly stronger enemy that is prepared to take the Alamo fort

F*** your analogies until you answer my question first. Then you may say: It's like...

We got a little OFF -Topic here haven't we people ?????

They did. I asked about Poland and these clowns gave me a dizzying ride back to the US because they can't directly admit the obvious: Poles are all feeeelings and dumb like our brick with bad lipstick. That is why they like dying for the country - za ojczyzne. Then, they doubled down with that idiotic Warsaw Uprising - that almost killed me - trying to outsmart the Soviets.
kaprys 3 | 2,416
18 Jul 2019 #28
Yeah, you're right. Most Poles would die for their homeland.
And I'm so glad we're not like you.
Lenka 3 | 2,000
18 Jul 2019 #29
Poles are all feeeelings and dumb like our brick with bad lipstick

So you think just sitting and waiting for your enemy is smarter? Let them come, do what they want and we will just sit here and wait politely for you?

If it was us attacking them I would say you are right but when you are attacked you .

Sadly they didn't have the fantastic option of becoming keyboard warriors like Rich
kaprys 3 | 2,416
18 Jul 2019 #30
@Lenka
At least we know how certain people would behave when their was attacked.
Welcoming the enemy with their arms wide open stupidly thinking that would save their lives.


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