Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


I've got three cats thanks.


Yes, and if it keeps going down at current rates for a few decades, I'll have lost money on my flat.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


Me, for example: my place is only 50 metres but it's only me and the cats most of the time and I can walk to work in ten minutes (takes at least 15 to drive at rush hour).

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

The difference is that there is still demand for that kind of property but that the demand for 70-80 m2 flats has dropped (and the demand for large luxury flats has dropped even more).

Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]

Well, if they are friends or family of yours, they're unlikely to have discovered the ceiling amount.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


The research I'm seeing is that it's more 40 to 45 that is selling best. It seems that location is key right now (people are now more willing to travel a little bit further in order to get flats which are a little bit cheaper).

Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]


OK, so it is 3k (according to you) but that's without the little extras that add at least another 50%.


Er, it isn't quite as simple as that, as a fair few people are starting to find out to their cost.

Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]


First there would be the cost of the land. Then the cost (and time) of getting the building permit. And the time and cost of getting the water and electricity connected.

Then the builder comes in to do his thing. Next you have a shell.

First you'll need to have the internal walls put in (it says 'building shell' and that will mean load-baring walls only). Then you will need to have it wired throughout. And have the heating system installed. And then have the water and sewage pipes put in (oh, did the builder include in his price a septic tank? Or did his price include connection to the sewage system? You did remember to sort that out, didn't you). Then you're ready to have all the walls plastered. And then have the whole house painted (inside and out, assuming that it has been left in a state ready to be painted and already has the insulation on). Then you're ready to have the stairs put in and get the floors installed. Then have the bathroom fixtures fitted and the tiles put in. Then have the kitchen installed. And then have all the electrical fittings done. And you'll probably want to have some sort of hard surface put down for parking a car on, and a fence and a gate too. Then you can finally apply for permission to live in your house.

How terri thingk that all of the above can be done for 120,000zl (she says allow 1,000 per square metre) is quite beyond me: the kitchen alone would probably cost 20,000zl!

Law / Polish EU Drivers Licence - can I get one the easy way (by paying for it)? [185]


For god's sake, just go to Ukraine and buy one there.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


It's possible (I do know people who have been attacked for being English) but unlikely. Of course, if you're other than white English, the chances go up significantly.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

Merged: Report on racism in Poland

cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/Poland.pdf
doesn't make for happy reading.

One bit in the summary made me wonder: "The racist crime rate in 2009 increased in comparison to previous years. In particular, black people are vulnerable to verbal and physical attacks. AntiSemite slogans and posters still remain a problem." Is that increase caused by an increase in racism in Poland or is simply that there are more minorities in Poland and so there are more of them for crime to be committed against?

Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]


And of course, they would never dream of trying to get away with giving you less money than you actually need, would they?

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


If she is Polish, why doesn't she know that it isn't a Polish word? The authoritative multi-volume Slownik Jezyka Polskiego (dictionary) of Karlowicz, Kryñski and Niedzwiedzki (Warsaw, 1905) lists the following forms: “babka, babcia, babciutka, babeczka, babusia, babuœ, babuchna, babunia, babuñcia, babuleñka and babulinka.” The “busia” version is not among them.

Wow, I don't think I've ever before heard of a plastic Pole whose ancestors weren't even Polish!

Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]


I'd say that the dentists here are much better than dentists in the UK or in the other countries I have lived in. And the prices for private work here are pretty much what you'd pay for NHS work in the UK.

Law / Is it possible to change visit visa to student or work permit in Poland? [16]

It is technically possible to do that without leaving Poland but it's very very difficult to do. However, it is impossible to do so when one only has a week left on one's visa. Sorry. Your best bet is to do three months in the UK and then return to Poland.

Work / Planning a move to Wroclaw (a company offers me a Gross salary of 4000 Polish Zloty) [23]


Plus gas, electricity, cable TV and telephone. Makes about 1900 minimum.

Work / Planning a move to Wroclaw (a company offers me a Gross salary of 4000 Polish Zloty) [23]


No. And most certainly none that you will be able to afford on 4,000zl per month gross.

Law / Getting Married in Poland without a visa? [23]

a) If one is in Poland illegal, one can try to get married but one should expect to get caught while trying.
b) The fact that you don't know that marriages are registered on the gmina level but residency permits are applied for on the wojewodztwo level very much suggests that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


I wonder why you didn't finish the quote. Could it be because you know that the full statement was that the best AND worst pilots under his command during the BofB were the two Polish Squadrons? I wonder.

And let's not forget that according to Bader the pilots of 302 squadron were gay.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]

No, not at all. The Bf 109 was supposed to use a Junkers engine but there were problems with it and so the RR was used until those were ironed out. The Bf 109 had a better engine than either the Spitfire or the Hurricane (at least until Tilly's orifice was fitted to partly solve the negative G problems the RR had).

However the MiG 15 and MiG 17 most certainly did use an engine which was a direct copy of a Rolls Royce jet engine (the Nene I think).

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]

And another lie from you: there most certainly were Poles in the 19 Spitfire equipped squadrons, less than two thirds of the Poles who took part in the BoB flew in the two 'Polish' fighter squadrons which took part in the BoB. And as has already been pointed out: most Brits were also in Hurricanes.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]

It's entirely possible that they flew Hurricanes during the BoB and their squadrons later switched to Spitfires.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


It isn't to be believed: on one particular day 303 by itself claimed more kills that the Luftwaffe actually lost to every squadron in the RAF combined. So much for "the Poles were very strict with their pilots when it came to claims and their claims were all verified through German records."!


One reason may have been that 303 let him fly pretty much when and where he wanted. And as he was usually by himself, witnesses for his claims weren't always there.


One of grandfathers flew Spitfires and the other Wellingtons and then Liberators. I still place greater reliance in the words of somebody who was actually there at the time than I do the words of somebody who is just repeating tales they were told (and which were at best second-hand when told to them).

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


Fine then, here is a precise breakdown of the numbers of planes:
The RAF fighter total strength at 17 July 1940
675 Hawker Hurricanes (58%),
348 Spitfires (30%),
95 Bristol Blenheims (developed from the bomber) (8%),
39 Defiants (power operated turret two seat fighter) (3%),
9 Gladiators (single seat biplane fighter) (0.5%)
5 Westland Whirlwinds (twin engined single seat fighter) (0.5%)

d_hodgkinson.madasafish.com/hawker-Vspit.htm


To quote the RAF website
raf.mod.uk/history/hawkerhurricane.cfm


To quote the RAF Museum

rafmuseum.org.uk/london/learning/resources/Teachers%20Pack%201%20Spitfire%20and%20Hurricane.pdf.


fighter-planes.com/info/hurricane.htm

So, if your recollection is correct and Polish pilots were claiming that the majority of the British were flying Spitfires in the BoB, those Polish pilots are either were mistaken or were being at best economical with the truth.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]

Exactly: read carefully. I said "They were indeed the highest claiming unit.", not "They were indeed the highest claiming unit which was equipped with Hurricanes."

BTW, you might want to be careful saying that 303 was only the fourth best but that it claimed the most: some Poles don't like people asking questions about the sacred 'facts' of Polish history.


On that we all agree.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


You are indeed wrong: the majority of the RAF's squadrons during the BoB were equipped with Hurricanes. Which is why the Hurricane accounted for 55% of the Luftwaffe's losses. There is a decent article about the Hurricane and the BoB here if you are interested.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/our-forgotten-freedom-fighter-why-the-unsung-hurricane-is-the-true-ace-of-the-battle-of-britain-2022105.html


They were indeed the highest claiming unit.


Sometimes it saves lives and at other times it costs them: 303's top scoring pilot (who wasn't actually Polish) died as a result of showing off to his girlfriend.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


Got a source for that? As far as I know, many of the Spitfires used in the BoB were purchased with money which had been specifically donated by persons or organisations, but certainly not all.


No, most British units were also using Hurricanes. Yes the Hurricane was slower than the Me109 and the Spitfire, but it could out-turn both of them and absorb more punishment too.


One could suppose that, it seems very credible. But do we have any evidence or witness statements to support our supposition?

And, please note that the statement which is questioned by the article is "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)", not 'Polish fighter pilots were ....'

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


So you are reading into the article things which the article does not say. OK.

However the article was posted in reply to the statement that "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)" It very much casts doubt on that particular claim. And it seems from comments posted here that some Poles are very much attached to that particular claim and don't like people to address the historical accuracy of it (just as they don't like people looking at the historical accuracy of other 'facts' from the Polish version of history).

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


a) Where did I say it happened during the BoB or that Polish fighter pilots were involved?
b) In that article there are no dates at all, all we know is that it was before December 1941.
c) The article refers to them as Poles and makes no comment as to whether they were fighter pilots or not (although they were allegedly 'fighting me').

The statement which I was replying to was "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)" No mention there about the BoB or Polish fighter pilots.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


If that was the aim, I would have clearly failed: the article is about Polish airmen.


Please don't lie: I didn't spend any time at all googling, this article has already been posted on PF.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]

Largely because she didn't. My grandmother did and she doesn't recall being particularly impressed or unimpressed with the Poles that she met then.

Interesting that instead of making any attempt to discuss the facts as presented, you instead try to make ad hom remarks. That is usually a very good sign that somebody knows that they have lost the argument.