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Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

The change in the abortion law in 1956 was largely due to high mortality rates of women undergoing illegal abortions.

As far as I know some of those statistic had been cooked.
Anyway I fail to see logic in the reason given for decriminalization of abortion. Who in his right mind would decriminalize a crime using as an argument number of criminals falling a victim to their own crime?

Unless someone believes it is not a crime at all in the first place. Meaning that alleged high mortality rate had been only used as an excuse to bring forward legislation closer to their ideologically biased views..
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

If I've understood you correctly you support the current legislation which was passed in 1993 and think the abortion laws should stay

That's about the size of it.

is this what you meant by your comment that not everyone in society adhered to the same moral standard?

I'm defending that law because I think is a nice compromise and there is not need to push it just to make the point.

it is not going to stop abortion

I don't know that and you don't know that. Anyway even if you were right that is not an argument you could use.

eh?

Yes, keep proving me right.

rather than a cluster of cells being removed at a hospital.

Bah, another blunder. Are you not tried of making them again and again?
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
History / Sarmatism in Poland [119]

Some recent DNA researches suggest people living in Poland 2000 years ago have much more in common with modern Poles than with any other nation...

Indeed that would put all those speculation about Slavic late arrival on those lands in the file where all other failed theories belong.
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

No privileges make up for loosing control over one's body

What are you getting at?

And if you didn't notice for a long time we are more or less trying to make both genders equal.

It might have escaped your attention but you have been privileged by the society (both in law and in customs)all your life. Your definition of equality must be pretty strange or based on false assumptions if you really believe in that alleged drive to 'try' to make both genders equal.

I am a women and yet your equal.

If you stop raiding the wave of your feelings you wouldn't be taking it all in the wrong way.
You are my equal as a human being, as an individual you were caught trying to lecture me on what is and what is not appropriate in the given contexts. It has bespoken an attempt on patronizing me only because you didn't like my take on an overtly dramatic tone you have taken here.

That is you who obviously cant distinguish between pointing out facts or its logical consequences from lecturing and judging other people's views and expression in such a manner that belie equality.

I'm young enough that I have still many years in which I may get pregnant.

That is not a very logical stance.. might or might not, who knows what tomorrow will bring? Could be a war or a car accident, are you constantly worrying about those too?

For you I may seem melodramatic but for you it's more or less just theoretical question.

That has nothing to do with the issue debated.

For me it can become very real issue every month.

No, it is not.
If I were to defend existing law on this issue I would say (as I already did) that its a nicely cut compromise between defense of sanctity of the human life and contemporary society which doesn't consist only from people bonded by the same ethics.

I think that it is a nicely balanced law despite its flaws.

I also happen to disagree with tiny insecure "men" ... trying to tell women what to do with their bodies

Which proves that you are on of those brainless morons who should be kept in bondage for their own good.
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Sorry but I have no idea what you are on about here.

What do you mean? I'm talking about certain privileges that are granted to you by the society ( law) by the token of your gender.

Certainly more than the Church in this situation

Name one thing she has done for poor women that wouldn't benefit it her otherwise?

After all she for sure wouldn't have any problems with paying for a visit in a nice clinic somewhere outside of Poland.

She is too old to have this kind of issues. Regardless she is doing OK partly because she was/is leading organization that is receiving grants from the international pharmaceutical company producing contraceptives and international non-governmental organization that is involved in the production and distribution of means for the performance of abortions. She is not an innocent bystander but has her hand in the cookie jar.

I can only assume that it's your failed and disgusting attempt at being clever and funny.

Nah, that was my adequate response to you being overtly dramatic and theatrical in your gloomy predictions. Now you are trying to lecture me on what is appropriate and what's not. Save it. I'm threating you as my equal in this debate if you cannot take it and you would rather be treated like a woman - you only need to ask me once.
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

However it's hard to deny that that law will affect women not men ergo women are more interested in it.

I don't see it this way after all it is nature that affect women more than men in this and a society balance it with a certain privileges being granted to women. Haven't seem them protesting much over that.

if I were a woman in Poland and got pregnant because [...] I was very poor

What being poor has to do with getting pregnant?

is the lesser of two evils

Really? So, according to your logic I should opt for morons that cannot keep up with argument or are contaminating people with their immoral standing should be eliminated because they endanger society with their stupid shyete? The lesser evil attitude is a slippery slope!

Apparently this picture is set as profile photo by more and more Facebook users

Someone has a medical problem methinks. :D

That's what Nowacka said- that this ban will hit poor women

Sure, and she cares so much about poor women that it kinda hits you in the face. (sarcasm)

I'm not panicking just yet but the vision of the future is getting scary.

What is that? Are you planning to sleep around without protection?

I don't think anyone can call it too lenient.

It was as they call it a comprise as not everyone in the society adhere to the same moral standard. Hence the reason I support it.

Before PiS came to power the morning after pill was available without prescription

Which in the way was against the law of the country. I would expect that those responsible should be persecuted for introducing such a law that allowed for that to happen..
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

I have only noticed that I haven't had answered the thread's question directly.
No Sorbs are not Polish. Yeah, I have heard that about those ten or five Serbs in the present day Germany that are all that remains of what's left from the Slavic tribes which dwelt between the river Oder and Elbe and were consequently conquered by the eastern marches of the eastern Frankish empire (what later used to be ruled by the Römisch-deutscher Kaiser - a strange fish if there is one).

Will they ever want to learn Gaelic properly?

You are confusing things here, Gaelic wasn't really a proper single Scottish language,(spoken in all four corners of Scotland) only some areas were using it.
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Women already get ****** off.

Don't try to change it into men versus women contests because it is not.

Keep at Muhammed, you certainly seem to know best :)

What's that mangina?
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

P3 you do realise that you a communist, circa 1970, don't you?

That is a painful example of reality disorder syndrome.

Nothing more to say, really.

Yes, your posts say it all.
Ironside   
3 Apr 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Now I'm waiting for "massive demonstrations" of racing pigeons' owners.

Not funny at all, in this way they are creating news that in the following days are being miraculously transformed into 'facts' which in turn create illusion that 0,01% of Poles who partake in this circus are somehow representative of imaginary Polish opposition to the government. Without foreign founds those people wouldn't be able to bring to the streets more than three lame dogs.

Really, on this issue, the fellas should just keep out of it.

It would be even better if morons would have kept they traps firmly shut and would let people with brains sort it out between themselves. So what don't you pipe it down?
Ironside   
2 Apr 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

designed to increase authoritarianism.

Yep, democracy and freedom of speech equals for you authoritarianism that is a typical progressive approach. Figures.
Ironside   
23 Mar 2016
Language / Nice Polish words to say to a girl [147]

'chocolate muffin'

Fair enough roz - a cute chocolate girl.
Can we all agree as to - You're crazy my cute chocolate girl?
Here a perfect translation:
Loca, me negrita!
Ironside   
22 Mar 2016
News / What is strategic meaning of Poland in Europe and in the world? [59]

Poland has no strategic meaning

Hmm... that what you think. Err ..? or you don't!

A simple way to work out whether a country is to work out what impact a country suddenly dissapearing would have on the world's economy

If I take above as an example of your thought process I doubt your ability to reason whiting the frame set by logical thinking. In other words abstract thinking is not your forte.

Countries like Haiti, Bangladesh etc fit this description

Hey, you stated your opinion without any argument or prove to support it. You know what they say about opinions - everybody has one.
Now fink me dong peasano.
Ironside   
22 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

just not the type that believes that Poland is some sort of Christ-like figure.

What type they would be? I haven't meet anyone who believes in such a story. It belongs to the history and as such might be used sometimes as a rhetorical figure. Where did you take it from? A storage of lame excuses for a condescending dick?

There were even some in my local supermarket earlier, but they were obviously working here and not claiming asylum.

That is not the point. There is legislation and legal proceeding defining exactly to whom in what circumstances status of a refugee can be granted.

None of the people that found themselves in Greece or Germany fits a legally definition of a refugee. If so than every country can decide for themselves who is and who isn't a refugee. In that light Ukrainians in Poland can be called migrants, refugees or whatnot not just because Polish government chooses to call them so. In the same way German government chose to call illegal immigrants - migrants or refugees or asylum seekers.

The crux of the matter in the EU is that some countries/governments are trying to force onto others countries/governments in the EU their own particular definition of a refugee.

Their standing on the issue and their own reasoning is so full of holes and caveats that they resorted to hysterical propaganda.

And this is hardly a one-off situation but rather par for the course!.

Indeed.
Ironside   
22 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Please, stop listening

To you. You listen to anyone but Poles. Take every each side but Polish. Great friend you are.

As of January - there were 3 refugees from Ukraine and 200 under some sort of protection

If those middle eastern and whatnot people in Germany are refugees then by the measure of the same yardstick those Ukrainians in Poland are refugees too.
Ironside   
22 Mar 2016
Language / Nice Polish words to say to a girl [147]

'wariatko ty mojo czarnuszko

you're crazy my chocolate muffin - that better convey meaning

najsldszy czrnuchu'

sweetest darky.
Ironside   
22 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

[..]PZPR slogans [..]They used to always talk about saboteurs and traitors too.

Did they? Do you remember those times? Do you want to reminiscence about those times? If not why would you bring it up? To show off? As a morsel to be thrown into people to inspire awe or whatnot? Was it something else delph, do you really think that such a cheap shot would actually work on me?

You are mistaken delph. I haven't even bated my eye, what? - I said - again that boring meaningless BS.
Now delph you're not stupid way would you say that? I'm actually curious, does it works for you often enough?
Maybe it is just a desperate move to thrown back your opponent when you have nothing to say and what more you don't know what to say?

Those people by their irresponsible and selfish action endanger security of Poland, they aim to destabilize that country and they don't care for consequences. All that just because they have lost a democratic election.

Saboteurs or morons are just very mild names for such a people.
Ironside   
21 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Doesn't take a genius

That is rubbish and unhelpful shenanigans. That BOR people are clearly in the state of disarray and that is the problem that needs to be fixed.
Ironside   
16 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

You honestly think that Mother Russia is going to care less about what Macierewicz says?

After all who is making all that noise, local village idiots and Russia. Idiots are idiots but it must have hurt Russia. I wouldn't do that in his place but then I'm not M. and I'm not in his place.

Just looking at it form a differed angle, if PiS gorvbemnt stand firmly behind it then it is kind of pressure on Russia. What's the harm in putting some pressure on them?
Ironside   
16 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

I'm confused

Yet bold. I would advice you to take a cold shower for your confusion and restrain yourself from making statements that reek of BS, lies and slander.

The man is barking - and digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.

Nah that would be you!

huge damage to Polish foreign diplomacy

Well you could be right, on the other hand it could be a good impulse for Russia to give back what is not theirs to keep.

Nothing worked so far maybe a direct and brutal approach will.
Ironside   
14 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Czechs (by far the most powerful of the other Visegrad countries) have long memories

What it has to do with politick, national interests and business - nothing at all! It is not a serious barrier to achieve working agreement. When it comes to Hungary there is abundance of a friendly feelings and goodwill.

he same time as 8 years of good growth, rising living standards

Do not forget to mention an unprecedented growth of the national debt. Poland is indebted as never before in the history ( except maybe for a spell of high life enjoyed by the landowners in the Greater Poland under screwed Prussian Kingdom rule - Napoleon saved those morons from themselves, see Les duex pays ont signé une convection de Bayonne,see sumy Bajonskie) if you think that selling out your assets for a movement of gratification to live a high life is a thing worthy pursuing and you calling it the happiness and rising standards ..... I simply disagree with such a philosophy.
Ironside   
14 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Sure PiS is not that great on maybe levels but what had been before including PO it was a real typhoon of corruption wastefulness, cronyism and incompetency. If you have been unable to recognize all that for what it was you have no room to pass any kind of judgment on PiS.
Ironside   
13 Mar 2016
UK, Ireland / My bad experiences with Polish neighbours in UK (not meant to offend) [173]

I went into the shop and heard a lot of shouting and screaming outside,

So you don't know what has really happened you just know one side of the story. What is your other moniker on PF? Did you make it all up?

If anyone doesn't belong here its those 3 white trash benefit seekers with feral children.

Could you just write your point without making up all that BS story. Its makes you look like a clown.
If you would just stick to the point you were aching to make, it would make you look only as a vile looser.
By Making up that story you demoted yourself to a sad clown, sad because xenophobic.
Pry tell us how many racist killings you have in your enlighten county five a year - more?. Would it surprised you to know there is none in Poland? So, if your story bears any resemble to the truth there most be something in the water in your neck of the woods, just take care what you drink.
Ironside   
9 Mar 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

What do people think the end game for this govt will be

Why do you even try topretend that you are kind a an impartial voice in this dispute? It is clear that you don't care for mums or farmers. Neither you are interested in debating pro and contra of their polices. You're only looking forward to the end of PiS government stomping impatiently your short fat legs.

I'm sure the answers will come couched in the language of the 1930's again

Excuse me? What has your heavily depended on a pop-cultural goo dig at PiS has to do with the actual political reality of the 30' or with the real PiS? Nothing at all! You are presenting nothing else but a witless drivel in a guise of refined argument. Why don't you fess up and state your real reasons for siding with scum? Unless I'm mistaken and there nothing more behind that progressive footie reasoning.

Oh I'm sure

Look at this a boy I back making comments on something he Hadley understand. Really 30', Jews and whatnot? Those are the real life issues for you in the presented day Poland?

Your post tell us more about you and your mindset than 1000 words would, at the same time it tell us nothing about Poland or PiS. What does it say about you? You must be really an anti-Semitic individual who is in denial as to his own prejudices and is projecting instead his problem onto other people.

I think that impromptu psychoanalysis describe you and your problem to the T!