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Ironside   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

No, it means an estimate, not a guess.

Yeah, estimate, a guess by someone who suppose to study a specific field of a subject. I see few problems here, integrity and a good will of those people and general difficulty of estimating who exactly is responsible for selling out Jews. That is task impossible to preform with any degree of accuracy.

Any numbers are kind of suspect.
Given that people are kind is simple, I would hate to give any number here a sentiment that any researcher worthy his salt should share. After all those responsible for their deaths are known, or should be known.

That strange focus/obsession on negatives is not healthy for anyone. How many people are dead due to Jews? Is that anti-Semitic? How come the same question about Poles is not considered anti-Polish?

That's now illegal to say in Poland.

No, it is not. It is illegal to say that the Polish nation is responsible for the Holocaust or is/were any way complicit.

Well plenty

Define plenty. In my opinions, estimate there're very few people that are aware of it. That lack of knowledge is not helped by the fact that Jews or Israelis seldom talk about them. They rather focus on others.
Ironside   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

The Poles destroyed

All of them? If someone would say that about the Jews you would jump out of your skin shouting anti-Semitism. Take a look in the mirror buddy are not you not turning into something you allegedly hate?

Bibi

Bibi can suck on it.
I hope Poland will stop supporting Israel, your good friend Putin surly will help you. lol! Russia already send there plenty of 'ambassadors'. They are supposedly Jewish lol!
Ironside   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Here is an interesting account estimating 200.000 jews

Key word here an estimation. Meaning that is a guess. It could be well 200. Anyway WTF are you saying there is no recognition of it in Poland? I guess you are fluent in Polish and know all there is about historical education in Poland. If not - why the hell you are talking out of your anus ?

Israeli want somthing else, they want to blame actions of some individuals that were shunned and punished by the majority of Poles on the whole nation.

In that case Israeli should take on respisblity for those individual Jews (or bands) that made a lot of harm to Poles and other nations, what good for a goose ....

What they really want it?

Poles have become one of the most despised immigrant groups in the UK

lol! Assuming that it is a fact. By the same logic Jews anti-Semitics is perfectly justifiable due to their tendency to hate and bigotry. Adolf are you sure you're trolling the right forum?

Not all Jews fit the stereotype of being rich, stingy, usurous

No shyte Sherlock. Most Jews in pre-war Poland were poor and illiterate, at least before a younger generation of Jews got their education after 1918.

As to why many Poles were helping Jews - because they were Christians. I mean you may like your friend or a neighbor but of for helping him you would put yourself and your whole family in the front of the f 'like' doesn't cut it, it takes it all to quite another dimension.

It is easy to talk BS and moralize in the safety of your house today.
I think Israelis F themselves over with this attack on Poland. They gonna lose big time in the long run. Just take a seat.
Ironside   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

The times when the Germans could be shamed into some self-flagellation are almost over.

Yeah that short spell between late 60' and early 90'. Before they were quite proud of they heroes and some of the most notorious butchers were a respectable members of the society, mayors, head of this or that, you name it.

In meantime they threw a lot of money on the problem - Jews and Israel. So now they are kind of best buddies.
In meantime no compensation were paid to Poland for material loses, not to mention slave work, contributions and loot were 1000's of art, gold and stuff went missing.

Germans and Jews agree in one issue, there two kind of victims in WWII, so innocent and saintly Jews and you know ..the Holocaust ohhhh....and Poles who to be honest (according to THEM people) had I coming and who cares about some filthy anti-Semitic peasants.

look even Donald Tusk

That is a traitor that would side with Germans during WWII like his grandpa. Lest not talk about this scum.

although thousands of Poles saved Jews, 1000s also gave them up for rewards.

Can they name them? Those who give up Jews? At least most of them I hope can be named. Otherwise it sound like a another Jewish myth - all are against us. (there were few scum like in any populace - so what? nation has nothing to do with it)

Anyways, Jews have their scum, murderess and collaborators too. I understand they are to be excused as they were JEWs and there is no place in this cartoonish narrative for Jews that weren't either saintly or that weren't a saintly victims.

In 1939 - 1941 in Soviet occupied Poland situation of those two societies had been reversed. I tell you that Jews weren't behaving one bit better towards their Polish neighbours, somehow no one is asking Jewish nation to take responsibility for their scum and to pay compensations.

I think it should change.
Ironside   
3 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Well, fine. The USA will just go

That is the risk Poland must take. IF USA will just go over some obscure internal legislation some crazy ass country like Israel objected to. I say Good Bye.

USA business and support is need for Poland to become and an independent strong and self-reliant entity. Caving in to some crazy ass demands of some xenophobic fascist people who hate all others for not reason at all from a far away land just to appease some greedy circles in the USA that love shekels goes contrary to all the purpose of having a close ties to America.

Poland could has stayed a nice little lap dog to Germany if that a case without having to go all that rigmarole just to become a pawn and a lap dog to a different power.

The way out of t his stalemate would be give in to the Jewish criminal racket (obviously supported by some Israeli authorities if not all) and pay 60 billion American dollars. I'm against that for a number of reason, mainly due to a golden rule - you don't give in to extortionists because they'll come back for more.

I would rather use it to strengthen Poland's position by building a worldwide Polish TV in English and by acquiring nuclear weapons in a short order.

Why ?

To show them there are consequences and it will cost them as well. As for you, you can have all the deal you want, you can even s. their d, for free if that is your want.

I'm talking about the state policy. No more open doors for their business of firms, no arm deals and not joint military actions. No political of financial support for anything Israeli or Jewish.
Ironside   
3 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

No, it doesn't. Israel showed its true colors and can go F itself.
USA regardless of their ties with Israel would have to make choices of their own. If they decide to abandon Europe and voluntarily give up their advantage and business opportunities in this part of the European continent just because of some internal legislation of Poland. Well, Goodbye!

Poland has no choice and must remain firmly on course and give in one ounce.
The way Israeli orchestrated that unprecedented attack pretty much closed out any other options that might have existed before.

The next stop should be withdraw of any financial support on Jewish stuff in Poland. In support of Israeli interest worldwide and to withdraw from any business, cultural or political deals with Israel, Israeli citizen and business.

The very good move would be to close up Polish embassy in Israel.

AH and IF they want to send their kids to Poland for tours of WWII camps, there should be obligatory three day course on REAL historical facts prepared by Polish specialists.
Ironside   
3 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Poland needs allies

Poland has allies. NATO - Does it rings any bells. Unless NATO will kick Poland out due to some sh...storm by some not NATO country. Until that time al that talk about isolation and blah blah is just scream ringing and putting pressure on Poland and Poles.

Here is a milled finger as a response!
Ironside   
3 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

It was incidental that a person in a camp was Polish,

Geez, you are as deep as a shallow puddle and so is your 'knowledge'.

Well, like I said, Israel was founded by Holocaust survivors.

Another golden slogan that doesn't convey any info. Keep going and you will soon become my favorite poster.

domestic posturing

Hmm posturing. Since when telling the truth about your own historical past is posturing?
Ironside   
2 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Very well, if you publish some lies about Poland during WWII. You can forget to take your holiday in Poland. Even to change your place in Poland could be a problem.

@all

By the way. Poland doesn't need an embassy in Israel. Neither Israeli ambassador is needed in Poland. Kick her out for a good measure. Ah all those business deal with Israel, kiss is good bye.

See if Israeli lobby in USA is strong enough to pull a quickie on Poland. maybe some 'red-necks' and Trump should show them that America won't do any dirty job for Israel for some shekels. Those who are so keen to take them Jewish money are surely not acting in American best interest.

-@delph
Johnny Daniels it surely sound like a bad Joke from those James Bond novels.
Ironside   
1 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Well that's not accurate

No, that is very accurate. Those two countries are movers and shakers of the EU. Small insignificant countries and those indebted to their eyeballs just follow them to curry a favor with them.

Kremlin

Just give it up. Putin and Russian is not an option for Poland.
Ironside   
29 Jan 2018
History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [252]

hat the article which I read was strangely uncritical of Dmowski.

Why would it be critical? A minster in Israeli gov today right now talk insulting BS about Polish people and he lies about his family to slander Poland and here ... he is still a cabinet member and no apologies has been issued. WTF? Are you about Lzyko?

Take a hike!
Ironside   
29 Jan 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

hile also choosing to put severe trade barriers in place against economies who don't play ball.

Ehh... Poland economy is foreign owned. They wouldn't put barrier against their own companies.

Poland economy (small Polish owned companies) is not supported by the Polish state.
Ironside   
29 Jan 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

About what?

Well, if you don't know about what and the same can be said about German establishment, FY! Poland should go for polexit.
Ironside   
29 Jan 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

What kind of position?

A position of hostility and imperialism, they could try for a change to negotiate with Poland some kind of agreement.

It's called common sense,

Which you clearly lack. Why would you insist on something that is blatantly untrue?
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Yes we could do with poaching those brains

There plenty of brains leaving Poland and had been for decades. What Poland need is a system that would made a good use of those brains or a one that would allowed them to bloom in Poland.

You have no idea what crappy system Poland has, all straight from Commie-Poland.
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Nobody is attacking Poland,

Sure, German gov and German press are only tell honest to God truth. lol!

Without Germany, the Euro would have broken up,

the Euro sucks, the only country that is more or less OK with Euro is Germany, don't make any favors to the EU, honest.
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

You sound like a freak to be fair. Doesn't meant you are a freak.
Poland history for the last 200 years had been such that all 'strange' reaction and issues are perfectly justifiable. West on the other hand has no excuse, all those spoiled brats swallowing neo-Marxist crap as their a cool aide.
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

f Germany to the EU, when it is the one country holding the EU together?

You are surely kidding here. There is no more divisive country in the EU than Germany.
I just wonder what they are trying to achieve by attacking Poland

Merkel has been instrumental in coordinating the European response to Russia's agression?

By giving OK to build North Stream 2? lol!It must have hit Russia hard, very hard indeed.
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

What like,

Not assimilating, building their own xenophobic financial institutions and so on.... All that anti-Semitic crap, all that BS accusations of complicity in holocaust, all that racist exclusion and divisive narrative of counting only Jewish victims and carrying not one ounce for not Jewish victims, all that exertion racket.

Why should foreigners be given preferential treatment in Poland. Mainly Polish people should be the once to start companies in Poland.

Polish and Israeli youth don't have to carry those burdens or prejudices

What are Jews? All burdens and prejudices with a pitch of neurosis. They maintain that victim narrative combined with we are better than you in order to survive. If they would drop those two - we are better and all hate and harm us poor innocent victim - they would just assimilate in a generation or two.
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

I always thought she was an old commie.

She was raised in east Germany and was one of those less known associates of Thomas de Maizière. Who pulled her from a back tier eastern Germany politician. So technically, yes she was a commie. If she is a commie I know not - probably she is a nihilist.
Ironside   
28 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

the truly hermetically sealed world of entitled neuroticism

That.
There is narrative that although mention Germany THEY basically blame all the nations in Europe for holocaust as well. Poland most than others for a number of reasons. Once of those being that Poland is not that strong as a country(not yet) and cannot kick them hard enough like for exmaple France..

Till now, post-commie scum was just playing along.