Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Will do! :)
Now go and enjoy the hot women in my clip and let me get on changins, will ya!
:)
:)
Will do! :)
Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Tja, what does that say about the Dutch?
Opportunists par excellance? First cheering the invaders, running to work with them like no other...once the invaders are losing terrorizing the "collaborateurs" like nobody else? Posing themselves all as brave resisters???
A phenomenon that could be also observed in boot-licker/surrender/collaborateur country France btw.
What does that say about the state of your minds...
But, according to testimonials of captured German militairy after the war, they'd never met such general hatred towards them anywhere in Europe as in NL.
Tja, what does that say about the Dutch?
Opportunists par excellance? First cheering the invaders, running to work with them like no other...once the invaders are losing terrorizing the "collaborateurs" like nobody else? Posing themselves all as brave resisters???
A phenomenon that could be also observed in boot-licker/surrender/collaborateur country France btw.
What does that say about the state of your minds...
Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Well, Holland had the percentual biggest participation in the Waffen-SS...
And Volksdeutsche not to forget...why should they not cheer their own troops coming to rescue them at last!
actually if everybody thinks that NL was such a sympathising country,
Well, Holland had the percentual biggest participation in the Waffen-SS...
Indeed, I was aiming at the groups of collaborators, traitors, cowards and fascist groups as there were in most countries of Europe
And Volksdeutsche not to forget...why should they not cheer their own troops coming to rescue them at last!
Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Heh:)
Now how do we find our way back to the thread topic...*scratches head*
Heh:)
Now how do we find our way back to the thread topic...*scratches head*
Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
"Objectively", ha! I've heard Hilde was a Brownie herself...and her assistants had all been Greenies...
It was objectively proved through the investigation of the German psychologist Hilde die Wasserrübe, who devised Lovleness Quotient, or LQ. Just compare:
"Objectively", ha! I've heard Hilde was a Brownie herself...and her assistants had all been Greenies...
Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
I love your positive thinking!*hearts Jola* :)
You racist you!
I love your positive thinking!*hearts Jola* :)
You racist you!
Bratwurst Boy
7 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
All blue eyed guys (and gals) are related...doesn't matter if germanic, slavic or jewish! We share the same ancestor.
We are all one family and should start to act like it!!! :)
sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.htm
Your 'theory' would have been very useful to show Alfred Rosenberg that most Germans had Jewish ancestry; a great tragedy would have been avoided.
All blue eyed guys (and gals) are related...doesn't matter if germanic, slavic or jewish! We share the same ancestor.
We are all one family and should start to act like it!!! :)
sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.htm
Bratwurst Boy
4 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
If only...
How can we win the trophy without a world class goalie???
*breaks down in despair*
Not again! Is he dead?
If only...
How can we win the trophy without a world class goalie???
*breaks down in despair*
Bratwurst Boy
4 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
We just lost our goalie for the South Africa! That's far worse!
We just lost our goalie for the South Africa! That's far worse!
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Ha! C'mon here brother! *hugs Sok close*
Also already did, got a bit of a German
Ha! C'mon here brother! *hugs Sok close*
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
Well, you talk an awful lot about them...so excuse my question! ;)
That's something to be afraid about?
Well, you talk an awful lot about them...so excuse my question! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
Here is more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany#The_2001.E2.80.932003_banning_attempt
It's 2010 and that guy is most probably dead, so your argument fails, for the party could have already been banned.
Here is more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany#The_2001.E2.80.932003_banning_attempt
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
Read on...it was mentioned in the course of the current try to ban the party (2002/2003)...
I wonder if the NPD ever was independent at all!
You are not really frightened of little 'ol NPD, aren't you....What's it to you, far away in..in...in...wherever you are! ;)
That happened in the 70s.
Read on...it was mentioned in the course of the current try to ban the party (2002/2003)...
I wonder if the NPD ever was independent at all!
You are not really frightened of little 'ol NPD, aren't you....What's it to you, far away in..in...in...wherever you are! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/13/johnhooper
Google is your friend! ;)
I would love a trustworthy article on this topic. Care to post a link to it, in English or Spanish LOL
guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/13/johnhooper
Neo-Nazi leader 'was MI6 agent'
Germany's government is currently trying to ban the NPD on the basis that its policies violate the constitution.
But the government's case is in danger of collapse after the disclosure that some senior NPD members were agents of the Verfassungsschutz.
But the government's case is in danger of collapse after the disclosure that some senior NPD members were agents of the Verfassungsschutz.
Google is your friend! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
Because there was a trial where they tried to get the party banned...there the whole affair came to light. The state couldn't very well ban their own servants...what a posse!
Where did you get that kind of "Information"? What would these undercover people do for the state?
Because there was a trial where they tried to get the party banned...there the whole affair came to light. The state couldn't very well ban their own servants...what a posse!
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
Half of them at minimum!
Astounding that you know so much about them over there in your Argentina....or Columbia...or whatever...
You believe the NPD to be undercover state agents?
Half of them at minimum!
Astounding that you know so much about them over there in your Argentina....or Columbia...or whatever...
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
They tried...it failed embarassingly so...to many state agents undercover innit....
PS: There is nothing wrong with being nationalist...the Hitler worship is what puts people off...it's sooo stupid and yesteryear!
They tried...it failed embarassingly so...to many state agents undercover innit....
PS: There is nothing wrong with being nationalist...the Hitler worship is what puts people off...it's sooo stupid and yesteryear!
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
Nope...only a few hundred (and most of them informers of the Verfassungschutz anyhow)
But I would like our veterans having their day in the sun too...they were the best!
Nope...only a few hundred (and most of them informers of the Verfassungschutz anyhow)
But I would like our veterans having their day in the sun too...they were the best!
Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [187]
When commies have their parades in Moscow why can't Nazis in the Baltics?
When commies have their parades in Moscow why can't Nazis in the Baltics?
Bratwurst Boy
1 May 2010
Genealogy / Polish & Prussian/German town name cross-reference. [100]
Heh:)
Welcome to European history... ;)
Heh:)
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Some other arguments: spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,570829,00.html
spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,578273,00.html
Russia basically used a WWII "Sudetanland land" type argument to seize Georgia's northern territories.
Some other arguments: spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,570829,00.html
....
After the recognition of Kosovo, the situation intensified and Georgia understands that it is losing South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Further talks will only serve to distance the two republics even further from Georgia. That's why the Georgians themselves have started to aggravate the situation, violating previous agreements and applying constant pressure.
After the recognition of Kosovo, the situation intensified and Georgia understands that it is losing South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Further talks will only serve to distance the two republics even further from Georgia. That's why the Georgians themselves have started to aggravate the situation, violating previous agreements and applying constant pressure.
spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,578273,00.html
...
But then Saunders qualifies his statement: "More and more people are realizing that there are two sides in this conflict, and that Georgia was not as much a victim as a willing participant." Members of US President George W. Bush's administration, too, are reconsidering their position.
But then Saunders qualifies his statement: "More and more people are realizing that there are two sides in this conflict, and that Georgia was not as much a victim as a willing participant." Members of US President George W. Bush's administration, too, are reconsidering their position.
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Well...you don't have to. But do you think many of those young red armist ordered into Poland did that because they wanted to? Doubtful at least...they did what soldiers do in any army...even worse....disobeying had meant sure death. Do you think it was different in any army at that time?
I'm not going to justify the Poland's invasion by Soviets.
Well...you don't have to. But do you think many of those young red armist ordered into Poland did that because they wanted to? Doubtful at least...they did what soldiers do in any army...even worse....disobeying had meant sure death. Do you think it was different in any army at that time?
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Believe it or not Sasha, most of them had been also clueless 18 years old without a choice like your grandfather....
Romanian, Austrian soldiers along with German ones under Stalingrad… were they oppressed too? They simply thought the fascist would win and they would be able to share the pie.
Believe it or not Sasha, most of them had been also clueless 18 years old without a choice like your grandfather....
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
I don't remember him bowing to the victims personally...
There is nothing "simply" about it....Such a gesture can't be seen in a vacuum. Putin is the Leader of modern Russia. He stands for changed views and at least a will for reconciliation between the russian and polish people.
I'm sure he got much flak from the stalinists in Russia....what you are doing right now with downtalking/ignoring this gesture is supporting the real enemies of peace and Poland in Russia.
Those kind would prefer another freeze between your two peoples to any acknowledgment of past crimes!
Why not going for civilized relationships before? Nations can't be "friends"...they can have different kind of relationships and be sometimes allies if they share the same interests. Friendship is for people....
It wasn't Putin, FYI, it was Gorbachev. Does "glasnost" ring a bell?
I don't remember him bowing to the victims personally...
simply because after 70 years Russia finally admitted to the Katyn massacre
There is nothing "simply" about it....Such a gesture can't be seen in a vacuum. Putin is the Leader of modern Russia. He stands for changed views and at least a will for reconciliation between the russian and polish people.
I'm sure he got much flak from the stalinists in Russia....what you are doing right now with downtalking/ignoring this gesture is supporting the real enemies of peace and Poland in Russia.
Those kind would prefer another freeze between your two peoples to any acknowledgment of past crimes!
It's a slow process and people need to know they can rely on Russia being their true friend
Why not going for civilized relationships before? Nations can't be "friends"...they can have different kind of relationships and be sometimes allies if they share the same interests. Friendship is for people....
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
I'm trying to be fair Bzibzi...and I admit I can emphasize with the russian fight to come clear with their past, it is not easy.
Also I know all about polish stubbornness and aversion against reconciliation...;)
What do you think was that?
Remember that? Chancellor Brandt in Warsaw:
Sometimes we too thought...WHY? Why apologizing if the Poles will never forgive us anyhow?
If they want hostile relationships and ongoing fights and animosities they can have them...we give up!
I had no idea that you are such devoted Russia's lover, Bratwurtski :)
I'm trying to be fair Bzibzi...and I admit I can emphasize with the russian fight to come clear with their past, it is not easy.
Also I know all about polish stubbornness and aversion against reconciliation...;)
Well, we still have to wait for that part.
What do you think was that?
Remember that? Chancellor Brandt in Warsaw:
Sometimes we too thought...WHY? Why apologizing if the Poles will never forgive us anyhow?
If they want hostile relationships and ongoing fights and animosities they can have them...we give up!
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Honestly...why are you ignoring that Putin did more for the official acknowledgement of Katyn than any other before?
Is there some kind of demonization going on? I can emphazise with Russians in this case I think....when all your tries to come to term with your crimes and acknowledging them and apologizing for them are faced with a wall of refusal, being turned down...you will just stop trying one day, knowing it futile, letting resentments grow again.
This is not in Polands interest I think!
Honestly...why are you ignoring that Putin did more for the official acknowledgement of Katyn than any other before?
Is there some kind of demonization going on? I can emphazise with Russians in this case I think....when all your tries to come to term with your crimes and acknowledging them and apologizing for them are faced with a wall of refusal, being turned down...you will just stop trying one day, knowing it futile, letting resentments grow again.
This is not in Polands interest I think!
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Not more than others I would say...and hadn't it been Poles who once conquered Moscow or invaded with Napoleons troops?
Would modern Poles like to be treated as hostile conquerer and invaders by modern Russians?
Well, if I remember it correctly it was Putin who was the first official Russian ever bowing before the polish victims of Katyn.
Did that escape somehow your attention? *seriously puzzled*
It's good to be cautious, especially when it comes to dealing with a country that has been brutal toward Poland (and other nations) so many times.
Not more than others I would say...and hadn't it been Poles who once conquered Moscow or invaded with Napoleons troops?
Would modern Poles like to be treated as hostile conquerer and invaders by modern Russians?
In my view, the process of forgiveness has been severely stalled by Putin but will eventually resume once he's gone, and one day he will be.
Well, if I remember it correctly it was Putin who was the first official Russian ever bowing before the polish victims of Katyn.
Did that escape somehow your attention? *seriously puzzled*
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Well, I think it was a great step what happened recently in the Katyn affair (Putin admitting that it had been Russians, acknowledging and regretting openly and officially)...demanding more and more and still blaming and hating them is a sure way to make the Russians regret what they admitted already. You cannot go from 0 to 100...such a process needs time.
If you want to stop any beginning reconciliation...go on Olga, you are on the right path!
Well, I think it was a great step what happened recently in the Katyn affair (Putin admitting that it had been Russians, acknowledging and regretting openly and officially)...demanding more and more and still blaming and hating them is a sure way to make the Russians regret what they admitted already. You cannot go from 0 to 100...such a process needs time.
If you want to stop any beginning reconciliation...go on Olga, you are on the right path!
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
"principled"???
Stop demanding more from the Russians than you do from others...they have their own problems and surely some things are seen differently over there...heaping scorn and contempt at them is not helping!
Putin has an astounishing number of voters and supporters, so what he says and does seems to be seen as good and positive with the majority of Russians, we have to accept that.
Germany did put up with years of rule of the polish "terrible twins", it was bad for our mutual relationship but we endured, after all it was the decision of the Poles.
"principled"???
Stop demanding more from the Russians than you do from others...they have their own problems and surely some things are seen differently over there...heaping scorn and contempt at them is not helping!
Putin has an astounishing number of voters and supporters, so what he says and does seems to be seen as good and positive with the majority of Russians, we have to accept that.
Germany did put up with years of rule of the polish "terrible twins", it was bad for our mutual relationship but we endured, after all it was the decision of the Poles.
Bratwurst Boy
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]
Russia isn't North Korea...differentiation is needed here too.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Russia
There are goodies and baddies, conservative, hard core stalinists, communists, liberal, progressive...whatever you want.
And they have regular elections...hardly a dictatorship.
Russia isn't North Korea...differentiation is needed here too.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Russia
The Government of the Russian Federation (Russian: Прави́тельство Росси́йской Федера́ции) exercises executive power in the Russian Federation. The members of the government are the prime minister, the deputy prime ministers, and the federal ministers. It has its legal basis in the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the federal constitutional law "On the Government of the Russian Federation".[1]
There are goodies and baddies, conservative, hard core stalinists, communists, liberal, progressive...whatever you want.
And they have regular elections...hardly a dictatorship.