News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

OK I guess I need to wait till rants and rampart emotions flailing wild will run its course and one will be able to have a half-decent conversation about facts.

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Well, if done right could be something, In Poland they have lost of that stuff about Jews, not that many about Polish victims.

After all Poland lost about 16% people during the war and I'm talking about dead.
Biggest in a proportion to the population.


Yeah figures they will have their stance over Polish issues. I bet they won't F with Jewish issues. lol!

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]


Is not, people are fed up with PiS and the way they were pulling some stunts and hence they believe any BS and nonsense about that new law.

The only change is that the down syndrome is not loner valid cause for an abortions.
People think and lefties scum lies that it a total ban, no abortions' at all no matter what.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]


Oh shut it Soviet that gloating. That has nothing to do with you soviets. It disgust me as well as your leftie BS.

The only thing is true people are generally fed up with gov and their way. Nothing new. It hard to say that PiS is a right wing, maybe they are right wing on the left side.

People like you are worst that rabble, lies gloating and glee, not responsibility for the sate not civil values, well karma is a ***** and I'm sure you will be on the receiving end.

By the way, Trybunal K said the same what it say in 1997 nothing new. So dude you famous defender of the Constitution, are you against It now that is doesn't fit your political shot term agenda? Rather weak they are, your principles.


Look you big supporter of the democracy, imbecilies or not that is the way it works. What make you think you are any better eh? Hubris?

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]


back at you soviet, u are a big hero hiding behind your keyboard, you wouldn't dare to talk back to my face and you know it.


Are you not for equality? You mean you only yapp but you don't understand what you are yapping about? It would be a good lesson for the soviet rabble that finally learns about consequences of her actions.


So what, they are protesting against PiS but they have nothing else in common.
Thank you for admitting you lied to this forum talking as if it was a one big leftie protest against PiS and it was all about abortions'. Just a tiny reminder who we are dealing with - brazen lairs


I understand that soviet rabble find that funny. Small wonder as their mental age is about eight. Plus they never learned how to think properly.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Nobody is only all nice or all kind. She probably meant that if not for her religion she wouldn't act in a such way as she does i.e. preforming some 'good' acts. My guess.


From the pool of people you know. Now it is correct.


well, maybe their are old in your neck of the woods in Poland there lost of young and strapping lads, I guess you can wear it if that is a dress, If not just can it.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]


Were have you been hiding? How is that first time? tsk If they were doing that while I would have been they would be carried out on stretcher. Scummy soviet rabble.

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Seems you Soviet mixing stuff up as usual. There are two protests - one of some lefties scum about abortion, supported by a small fraction of the population.

Second against covid-19 restriction plus farmers are rightly mad at PiS for banning this or that and generally F with them.

Those people have nothing in common but one PiS pissed them off.

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Well dude that is a nature of any laws, would you go anarchy? Saying that any laws are fascisms is another level of stupid. Can you make an argument or you go from dumb to dumber slogans.


so you are doing the same, ah but you a money hence you cannot be fascist. dude wise up its boring to refute stupid at this low level.

Love / How Do You Feel About a Black man marrying Polish Women? [157]

Ask immigrant students in Poland.

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Serbs must be very weak, dumb and decadent people if the Vatican can do it to them.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


fallacy not rebuttal


Really! From ethical and logical point of view there is no difference in an attitude only in means.


WTF? saying that to kill a child is wrong equals with fascisms? can you go more stupid

Love / How Do You Feel About a Black man marrying Polish Women? [157]


Depends on a man and depend on their number. If a docent black man settle in Poland and happens to marry locally - I don't see a problem. If a half of the Africa or whatnot wants to move to Poland I'm against it.

If you ask how a general population likes it. Not that much.
Those leftie clowns embracing diveristy (whatever that means) are not polish, one is an Englander and the other Soviet.

Also I doubt sincerity of those threats and questions, those are either trolls or ideologically biased trolls.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Dude, people are not only good or bad they are mix of both. However when it comes to principles for the most part there is only black and white and if you don't understand that you better stick to being a serf and do as you are told.


Oh you think you are so wise and experienced. dude so have I. I don't dismiss people who are not heroic, who suffer and who burdened. I understand that.

It your petty character at play here that make you making unwarranted assumptions.
So what the solution in you opinion - kill the babies to make it easier? With a such attuite you could shake hands with Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot they all based they murders on a rationale that they are the once who can decide who needs killing.

Do you think IF you make an excuse but those are fetuses' it makes you any different? Nah Hitler had those euphemizes for other human being too, excuses and eugenic in the USA. They only are a burden for others, those suffer, those are just waste of space, it is for good of their parents, society, nation, humanity.

We heard it all.
Who are you to make that call, eh?
Can you handle consequences? I bet you are not, as most people who post on this topic. What worse they don't see nor understand consequences.


I think you are in the waters that are too deep for you. Sure you have a free choice, it is up to you to do make a bad or a good choice. You can side with the devil if you want that is your free choice.

You came across as someone who thinks a free choice is a buffet - hey I can choose this dogma, oh and that doctrine looks nice, but this is yucky this is impractical that too hard, no thank you. lol Yeah Atch go for girl lol !

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Those are you mussing and it wasn't anything that great. Everything looks better in your imagination. Those new born heathens everywhere are making me laugh. Those people are a joke. IF they would encounter a real society run by beliefs and standards they claim to be so great they would run like crazy to get away from it.

everything is great if it only exist in your imagination.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


such a levitation was already in place. I keep repeating it but none listen. They i.e. gov didn't need any new bill to correct it. They just could have issued a small correction.

Hey by they decided it will do them good if they pose as friends to pro-life supporters. Its a political stunt.
If they would do it right as they should you wouldn't even heard about it.
Read Torq post how that overlooked legislation had been overused.


WTF it should be legislation,

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they did, they had to correct it later - morons
And you and that soviet pair of clowns haven't noticed it either, I had a laugh talking to them with they ignorance apparent yet they have supported PiS legalization regardless lol !

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You were all exited when they banned animal farms you and that pawian. Now that they are correcting the law that should have been corrected long time ago you go ape-shite crazy. Yuck!!! What a scummy soviets.

What they are doing? They don't know. They F up a lot lately. so they hope they will gain some support by doing that. Simple!


In what reality? In a parallel universe or in your ivory tower? The biggest superstition is a lie that human are rational creatures that given a proper education would act rationally with a reason as they guidance.

Regardless that is only correction of the law that had been already in place. . You should find out more about the issue and not from biased leftie sources. Otherwise you give an impression that you are not rational about it at all but rather frantically and emotionally involved on a one side and you don't give a fiddle for the truth.


How it is not? You are talking about tyranny of the state that is imposing its will on the people. So an option is to leave people as much individual freedom as possible without said state interference. If you think that you can pick and choose which issues should be forced on people and which not. You are not advocating a greater individual freedom. You have nothing against state tyranny as long as it goes your way.

You are a hypocrite.
By the way woman has a choice doesn't have to become pregnant is not compulsory. Once she does it is not longer only about her. there is a life of another human being at stake. A defenseless minority, somehow a hypocrite like you don't care enough to defend them. why cause they cannot vote?


Prove it! The same agreement you make about breaking the law can be made about any other criminal. There is no special status for abortion. That distinction exist only in your mind. If anything the law is inconsistent here. For an abortion there no real legal consequences for a woman, whereas if she or a father would have killed a five years old child they go to jail. Makes no sense.

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Here is the real Kaja Grodek:

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


First let them pay for breaking covid-19 restrictions. ?Then given them brushes while out there should clean streets.


Well, Ok then, let have abortion anytime anywhere provide I can cut off your head or anyone's without any legal consequences. I would rather prefer regress into a tribal and barbarian world than life in some neo-Marxist slave state.

Ah you say 20 000 it must have been 2000 knowing you and your sources. Warsaw has about 3 millions in that say 1,5 millions women. Wow a whooping 0,1% or if we take your phantasy for a real number whooping 1,3% women of Warsaw took part in that corvid spreading event.

Where is Ziemowit to condemn them? Except he is another soviet hypocrite and he won't .

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Not really. I mean that argument doesn't carry any weight. After all from a democracy perspective majority sets rules, so if majority decide what is right and set it as a law, the law it is. Unless you argue against democracy.

There is another perspective ethical one that claims our civilization is build on certain ethical/moral dogmas/cornerstones that shouldn't be touched unless you don't aim at destroying what it is now.

The really interesting question arise when those two presuppositions clash. Whilst majority would like to vote on something that would have undermined certain ethical cornerstones of their civilization. I digress.


Are you for the right to own a gun, dismantle of a welfare state, low taxes and a small government? If not your concern for an alleged control of a state over women bodies (whatever that means) reeks of hypocrisy.


That argument could have been made about any law and any criminals. He/she should be allowed to take other people position otherwise it force him to rob a bank and endangers his/her life and the life of other in the process. Hell, I have made even a stronger case for a bank robber using YOUR 'logic'.

Is that a flower of the regressive left mind? A silly slogan?

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The only one that bring religion into it is you. Well, maybe some others too, but I have never argued about issues here using an argument from the Bible. So there is it.

What you saying in fact that since something is practical and easier for adults they should have it their way. Even if that includes killing children.

You say this you say that add Catholicism to the mix and vole! Where is your Catholic stance I would like to know? Why are you even bring into it religion? Just to go contrary to its dogmas and teaching?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Seems to me that you got it wrong too. The problem lies with imprecise law in Poland which has been misused to carry out abortions of babies whose defects had been potential. problematic or even nonexistent. Still a mild dawn syndrome is not a cause for killing.

You all seem to be missing the point here - a sanctity of a human life. Seems to me that on a philosophical and ideological ground left just lost it. They don't know what is what, take things for granted and create more problems that they solve. Hell lately they don't solve any problems they only create them There are a reason they are called a regressive left.

Even here, you divert attention towards issues that concern statistic minuscule of the cases. Same goes with those cases left talk about all the time i.e. when pregnancy is a result of a rape. Those cases are few and between and that is not really the crux of the matter here.

Don't tell me that IF I would to concede that an abortion should be an option if it is a result of a rape and when there is not doubt whatsoever that a child will be born with severe deformities, you would support in turn a ban on all other abortions? Of course not!

So the problem and disagreement runs deeper and has littlie to do with those cases you regressive left like to bring up to show that you CARE. No you don't! You pretend to care to use it an a tool to spread your ideological dogmas - as it has been aptly demonstrated.

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Familial ancestors are included in that too.

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [144]

No, RC. Go November the First to any normal cemetery in Poland after dusk and you will see its glow.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Doesn't she knows about it? I mean choices and consequences. Still, if you face a hardship go and get some kids killed. Oh its mine that make its OK, Ethically going back to the paterfamilias law. Harking back to 12 tablets law, Roughly 2470 years ago. Progress lol!


who never heard about painkiller and such? I doubt they qualifications then.

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For reverence for remembrance for veneration.

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IF there would be universal child and health care system it doesn't make sense to say that it is up to do woman. It is up to a state or a society then.


Well, Why would you make a kid pay for his/her mother bad taste or wrong life choices. In time of contraception a woman who gets pregnant by a mistake or change her mind after the fact is no better than 'a beta looser male'.


You need two to tango.

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Ancestors are important.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


So consequently you support no state help or 'dad' doesn't need to pay anything IF she decide to have a kid. AM I right?

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Is that another tale from the lefties propaganda leaflets?


There no such a saying just a vulgar slogan copied from aboard.


Why?