Paulina
9 Jan 2013
Paulina
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
lol
OK :)
Nothing. I'm just making a mockery of you people saying that a certain set of features can be attributed to a European country.
lol
OK :)
Paulina
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
Well, pics won't necessarily say a lot - I'd probably get loads of blue eyed blonds which you could get in Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, etc. ;)
You mean this?:
What's typically Polish about their facial features? You wouldn't have such features in Sweden or Russia?
Or Germany?:
karolina1234.pinger.pl/m/6271221/diane-kruger
What's her nationality - who can guess?
Really? What's typically English about her features?
Well, pics won't necessarily say a lot - I'd probably get loads of blue eyed blonds which you could get in Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, etc. ;)
Just choose 2 countries, 1 of them Poland, type in "typical x face" and "typical Polish face" and let google images do what I can't.
You mean this?:
Laura Drzewicka
Anna Jagodzinska
What's typically Polish about their facial features? You wouldn't have such features in Sweden or Russia?
Or Germany?:
karolina1234.pinger.pl/m/6271221/diane-kruger
What's her nationality - who can guess?
Typical English features.
...
...
Really? What's typically English about her features?
Paulina
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
Well, maybe for a foreigner it's easy to observe, but for a Pole - not really :) That's why I'm asking.
So, what are those "typical Polish facial features"?
I don't want to invest the time in "proving" something that is easier just to observe.
Well, maybe for a foreigner it's easy to observe, but for a Pole - not really :) That's why I'm asking.
So, what are those "typical Polish facial features"?
Paulina
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
Yes, probably, and I guess I exaggerate a bit, but still... I've noticed that female presenters in TVN24 and France24 dress rather simple, but elegant and are very minimalistic in terms of jewellery. They also usually don't wear heavy make up:
When I think of American presenters I see "bigger hair" and stronger make up:
(well, that's not the best example, but I think you get the idea)
And more colours:
But that's probably just a stereotype that got stuck in my head ;)
But I don't think you often see braided hair styles (RTR Planeta) on BBC! ;)
Why don't you describe those "typical facial features"? I'm curious :)
I guess each channel has its dress code.
Yes, probably, and I guess I exaggerate a bit, but still... I've noticed that female presenters in TVN24 and France24 dress rather simple, but elegant and are very minimalistic in terms of jewellery. They also usually don't wear heavy make up:
When I think of American presenters I see "bigger hair" and stronger make up:
(well, that's not the best example, but I think you get the idea)
And more colours:
But that's probably just a stereotype that got stuck in my head ;)
But I don't think you often see braided hair styles (RTR Planeta) on BBC! ;)
negative on that one Nancy. Poles do have typical facial features. I don't want to invest the time in "proving" something that is easier just to observe.
Why don't you describe those "typical facial features"? I'm curious :)
Paulina
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
LOL Zeti, the moment I saw the title of your thread I remembered that I wondered about the same thing when I was reading one Russian forum - Russians were asking questions about Poles and Poland as if we were some aliens living on Mars :D And they are our fellow Slavs! lol
The only difference, I think, was that they were genuinely curious. My impression is that here foreigners rather state things, even when they "inquire" about something (usually to complain about sth :)) - "Poland is a nation of criminals?" xD).
Maybe there is, who knows :) Although I wonder if we're that easily distinguishable from other Slavs - taking only looks into account and not clothes, make up?
There is something like Slavic look, Scandinavian look, "Latino" look. Even the French look a bit different than Poles, I've noticed more dark hair and a bit darker skin shade when I was in Paris.
But that's of course the "typical look" :) I don't look typically "Polish", for example :)
When I was in Hamburg with my friends we were at some restaurant and we were sitting next to elderly Germans. We were talking in Polish, but they thought we're Italian lol (probably because of our names - Paulina, Karolina, etc.). There were four of us - I have brown hair, my friend - blond and blue eyes, and the other two - dark brown hair and eyes, and naturally curly red hair and light colour eyes - and we were all Polish :)
And there are also Americans! You can tell them apart even from the Europeans! I had a Polish-Canadian teacher once and she was sooo American! xD
And as far as fashion style is corncerned - you can see the difference even in the news of each country in the way presenters are dressed and what hair styles they have - I have BBC World News, RTR Planeta (Russian), some French news channel, American, and of course TVN 24 (Polish). American style is quite different form the French, for example. I would say the way they dress women in TVN 24 resembles French the most. We all know how American presenters look like :) And the BBC style is... erm... British, I suppose :) I've noticed more than once that Russian female presenters have "Slavic" hair styles and every and each of these presenters is beautiful :)
LOL Zeti, the moment I saw the title of your thread I remembered that I wondered about the same thing when I was reading one Russian forum - Russians were asking questions about Poles and Poland as if we were some aliens living on Mars :D And they are our fellow Slavs! lol
The only difference, I think, was that they were genuinely curious. My impression is that here foreigners rather state things, even when they "inquire" about something (usually to complain about sth :)) - "Poland is a nation of criminals?" xD).
Probably because there's no Polish look in fact.
Maybe there is, who knows :) Although I wonder if we're that easily distinguishable from other Slavs - taking only looks into account and not clothes, make up?
There is something like Slavic look, Scandinavian look, "Latino" look. Even the French look a bit different than Poles, I've noticed more dark hair and a bit darker skin shade when I was in Paris.
But that's of course the "typical look" :) I don't look typically "Polish", for example :)
When I was in Hamburg with my friends we were at some restaurant and we were sitting next to elderly Germans. We were talking in Polish, but they thought we're Italian lol (probably because of our names - Paulina, Karolina, etc.). There were four of us - I have brown hair, my friend - blond and blue eyes, and the other two - dark brown hair and eyes, and naturally curly red hair and light colour eyes - and we were all Polish :)
And there are also Americans! You can tell them apart even from the Europeans! I had a Polish-Canadian teacher once and she was sooo American! xD
And as far as fashion style is corncerned - you can see the difference even in the news of each country in the way presenters are dressed and what hair styles they have - I have BBC World News, RTR Planeta (Russian), some French news channel, American, and of course TVN 24 (Polish). American style is quite different form the French, for example. I would say the way they dress women in TVN 24 resembles French the most. We all know how American presenters look like :) And the BBC style is... erm... British, I suppose :) I've noticed more than once that Russian female presenters have "Slavic" hair styles and every and each of these presenters is beautiful :)
Paulina
8 Jan 2013
Language / Fun with Polish ambiguous language [59]
Wow, right! I completely forgot about this one :))
I didn't know about this! Thanks :)
xD
Also: 'Zaćmienie słońca'
Wow, right! I completely forgot about this one :))
'ćma' is 'ciemność' in Kurpie dialect just as Lyzko stated (my guess is it is the same in North Masovian dialects)
I didn't know about this! Thanks :)
Mam pociąg do Kobyłek
xD
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
Language / Fun with Polish ambiguous language [59]
"Ćmok" which is a word similar to "ćma" can mean something like "ciemno/ciemność/noc/zmierzch". Or "po ćmoku" - "po ciemku" (in the dark). Here it probably means "after dark":
ciezkiprzekaz.ownlog.com/zycie-po-cmoku,1552912,komentarze.html
I don't know if it's regional or a countryside thing.
Also, in Slavic mythology "ćmok" was apparently some kind of nocturnal winged demon. Or at least Wikipedia says so:
pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%87mok
You can also say "ćmi się" - which means: "it's getting darker".
sjp.pwn.pl/haslo.php?id=9054
But again, it's not "literary Polish" (nowadays), I think.
"Ćmok" which is a word similar to "ćma" can mean something like "ciemno/ciemność/noc/zmierzch". Or "po ćmoku" - "po ciemku" (in the dark). Here it probably means "after dark":
ciezkiprzekaz.ownlog.com/zycie-po-cmoku,1552912,komentarze.html
I don't know if it's regional or a countryside thing.
Also, in Slavic mythology "ćmok" was apparently some kind of nocturnal winged demon. Or at least Wikipedia says so:
pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%87mok
You can also say "ćmi się" - which means: "it's getting darker".
sjp.pwn.pl/haslo.php?id=9054
But again, it's not "literary Polish" (nowadays), I think.
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
Language / Fun with Polish ambiguous language [59]
lol Interesting... Definitely not used in my region :)
lol Interesting... Definitely not used in my region :)
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
lol
As I wrote - some minds are still stuck in the Cold War era (in Russia too, btw lol) ;)
lol
As I wrote - some minds are still stuck in the Cold War era (in Russia too, btw lol) ;)
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Good one ;D
some idiot wrote something like that "even if meerkat is imitating some Eastern European dialect" lol so according to that Polish would be not a language but some dialect of a big sh1t country called Eastern Europe where in fact languages are in most cases not even mutually understandable
Good one ;D
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
lol Hehe :)
That's what I think too - we all have minds of our own (that's something you learn when you grow up in a communist country with all that propaganda bull*t attacking your ears ;)).
I guess I should have trusted my eyes and not my ears lol :).
lol Hehe :)
That's what I think too - we all have minds of our own (that's something you learn when you grow up in a communist country with all that propaganda bull*t attacking your ears ;)).
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Honestly? It's not an issue for me lol But when I see people like berni23 and jon357 having such a big problem with Poland being called Central (at least when Poles call it this way lol) and being so ignorant at the same time this is when I usually intervene.
Of course I wouldn't do that if facts weren't on my side, so to speak :)
I think that people in the West (and that's both Western Europe and the US) usually think of Poland as being Eastern Europe becuase of the Eastern bloc. You could see that in jon357 and rozumiemnic's posts. Rozumiemnic wrote that "politically there isn't really such a thing" like Central Europe :) So you see what I mean... ;)
Paulina,I'd always heard Poland referred to as being in eastern Europe.Is this an issue because it's a reminder of the eastern bloc?
Honestly? It's not an issue for me lol But when I see people like berni23 and jon357 having such a big problem with Poland being called Central (at least when Poles call it this way lol) and being so ignorant at the same time this is when I usually intervene.
Of course I wouldn't do that if facts weren't on my side, so to speak :)
I think that people in the West (and that's both Western Europe and the US) usually think of Poland as being Eastern Europe becuase of the Eastern bloc. You could see that in jon357 and rozumiemnic's posts. Rozumiemnic wrote that "politically there isn't really such a thing" like Central Europe :) So you see what I mean... ;)
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
:))))
The funny thing is that I think of myself as... European :) That's what I think of Germans, the British, Greeks, Serbians, Russians. We all share common culture and in most cases: big language family (Indo-European languages).
Once I talked to a Japanese guy here in my city who was all around Europe and was surprised that there's some division into the East and to the West. And differences in religion lol "Aren't you all Christians?? We have some Christians in Japan too!" :)) He said that all European cities look the same to him, the same architecture, the same people lol So I guess it depends on the point of view :)
:))))
The funny thing is that I think of myself as... European :) That's what I think of Germans, the British, Greeks, Serbians, Russians. We all share common culture and in most cases: big language family (Indo-European languages).
Once I talked to a Japanese guy here in my city who was all around Europe and was surprised that there's some division into the East and to the West. And differences in religion lol "Aren't you all Christians?? We have some Christians in Japan too!" :)) He said that all European cities look the same to him, the same architecture, the same people lol So I guess it depends on the point of view :)
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Why do some people on PF have such a problem with Poles being called Central Europeans?? :)))
Why do some people on PF have such a problem with Poles being called Central Europeans?? :)))
Paulina
7 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
And where did you read that Slavic languages are considered only Eastern?
"Throughout Central and Eastern Europe and Russia"
(I don't quite get it why there's no mention of Southern Europe, though lol)
From: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages
Now, if Poland was geographically in Eastern Europe and West Slavic languages didn't differ from East Slavic languages I wouldn't even utter a word as far as classification of languages is considered.
So, could someone explain it to me why is Polish, Czech and Slovak considered Eastern and by whom?
As Harry would say: you're lying, berni23 :) I didn't claim that I think Poland is the epicenter of the world nor did anyone else claim that.
If you really think that saying Poland is a Central European country stems from thinking of Poland as "the epicenter of the world" then you have some serious problem O_O
If the Slavic and Finno-Ugric languages are considered eastern, then Finland, Estonia, Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Bulgaria, Slovenia and what have you are eastern linguistically.
And where did you read that Slavic languages are considered only Eastern?
"Throughout Central and Eastern Europe and Russia"
(I don't quite get it why there's no mention of Southern Europe, though lol)
From: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages
The most obvious differences between the West and East Slavic branches are in the orthography of the standard languages: West Slavic languages are written in the Latin script
Although the Slavic languages diverged from a common proto-language later than any other group of the Indo-European language family, enough differences exist between the various Slavic dialects and languages to make communication between speakers of different Slavic languages difficult.
Now, if Poland was geographically in Eastern Europe and West Slavic languages didn't differ from East Slavic languages I wouldn't even utter a word as far as classification of languages is considered.
So, could someone explain it to me why is Polish, Czech and Slovak considered Eastern and by whom?
an unreasonable bunch that likes to deviate from what you said for 7 pages just because they think of themselves as the epicenter of the world.
As Harry would say: you're lying, berni23 :) I didn't claim that I think Poland is the epicenter of the world nor did anyone else claim that.
If you really think that saying Poland is a Central European country stems from thinking of Poland as "the epicenter of the world" then you have some serious problem O_O
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
LOL
OMG, you're right - I didn't even notice that! ;D
DeviantART is an art site, there's definitely nothing scientific about it lol:
ay-deezy.deviantart.com/art/Globaly-ethnic-map-of-Europe-261818018
From the artist's comment:
Oh dear ;D
He put some map of ethnicieties from deviantart.
LOL
OMG, you're right - I didn't even notice that! ;D
DeviantART is an art site, there's definitely nothing scientific about it lol:
ay-deezy.deviantart.com/art/Globaly-ethnic-map-of-Europe-261818018
From the artist's comment:
I know that I forget many people but its a good beginning right ?
Oh dear ;D
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
There's no such thing.
Languages of Europe are divided into:
1. Indo-European languages:
a) Albanian
b) Armenian
c) Baltic languages
d) Celtic
e) Germanic
f) Greek
g) Indo-Iranian languages
h) Romance languages
i) Slavic
2. Languages not from the Indo-European family:
From: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Europe
What do you mean?
So what is an Eastern European language ?
There's no such thing.
Languages of Europe are divided into:
1. Indo-European languages:
a) Albanian
b) Armenian
c) Baltic languages
d) Celtic
e) Germanic
f) Greek
g) Indo-Iranian languages
h) Romance languages
i) Slavic
2. Languages not from the Indo-European family:
From: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Europe
PS Since when "deviantart" is a source of information?
What do you mean?
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Indeed: /wiki/Romanian_language
Indeed: /wiki/Romanian_language
Romanian [...] is a Romance language spoken by around 24 million people as a native language, primarily in Romania and Moldova, and by another 4 million people as a second language.[4][5] It has official status in Romania, Republic of Moldova, the Autonomous Province of Vojvodina in Serbia and in the autonomous Mount Athos in Greece.
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Really?
I can repeat myself then, no problem :)
Simple question: are Finnish and Portuguese both Western languages?
Quote from: /wiki/Finns
Finnish belongs to the Uralic language family and is most closely related to Karelian and Estonian.
Portuguese is Iberian Romance language.
The Finnish and the Portuguese people even look different. In terms of looks probably Poles and Germans are more alike :)
So how would you call Finnish language? (the Uralic language family)
Estonian? (the Uralic language family)
Hungarian? (the Uralic language family)
Western? Eastern? Central?
Then why are you posting it?
You did? Must have escaped me.
Really?
I can repeat myself then, no problem :)
Simple question: are Finnish and Portuguese both Western languages?
Linguistically, Finnish, spoken by most Finns, is part of the Uralic language family and is most closely related to other Finnic languages such as Karelian and Estonian, while Swedish, spoken by Swedish-speaking Finns, is unrelated to the Finnish language and a member of the Indo-European language family. Finnish has loanwords from Swedish, other Germanic and broader Indo-European languages in different chronological layers while Swedish has few loan words from the Finnic languages. Some scholars have argued that, genetically, Finns "have been shown to differ strikingly from other European populations".[16]
Quote from: /wiki/Finns
Finnish belongs to the Uralic language family and is most closely related to Karelian and Estonian.
Portuguese is Iberian Romance language.
The Finnish and the Portuguese people even look different. In terms of looks probably Poles and Germans are more alike :)
So how would you call Finnish language? (the Uralic language family)
Estonian? (the Uralic language family)
Hungarian? (the Uralic language family)
Western? Eastern? Central?
Nothing to do with my original statement.
Then why are you posting it?
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
First of all, I was also discussing with jon357, not only with you, and so I "brought religion, alphabets and even architecture".
Secondly, there's no such thing like "Eastern Europe" in terms of ethnicity and language, just like there's no such thing like "Western Europe" in terms of ethnicity and language as I've just proven in my previous post.
Besides, if we would take your map into account we could still divide Europe into Central, Eastern and Southern:
Polish, Czech and Slovak languages are clearly Central.
And, look, Sweden and Finland are right above Poland! Aren't they Eastern by any chance, in terms of geography? lol
Since than you brought religion, alphabets and even architecture to prove otherwise.
Now you are throwing Greeks, Finns and the poor Portuguese into your equation.
I have proven my point repeatedly, know that the majority of the scientific community would agree with that statement and am tired of you drifting off.
Now you are throwing Greeks, Finns and the poor Portuguese into your equation.
I have proven my point repeatedly, know that the majority of the scientific community would agree with that statement and am tired of you drifting off.
First of all, I was also discussing with jon357, not only with you, and so I "brought religion, alphabets and even architecture".
Secondly, there's no such thing like "Eastern Europe" in terms of ethnicity and language, just like there's no such thing like "Western Europe" in terms of ethnicity and language as I've just proven in my previous post.
Besides, if we would take your map into account we could still divide Europe into Central, Eastern and Southern:
Polish, Czech and Slovak languages are clearly Central.
And, look, Sweden and Finland are right above Poland! Aren't they Eastern by any chance, in terms of geography? lol
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Terms "Western Europe", "Central Europe" and "Eastern Europe" are broader terms and aren't only based on geography, ethnicity and language.
If they were, country like Greece wouldn't be considered Western. Greek language belongs to Hellenic languages and Greece is in the South of Europe and it belongs to the Balkans together with Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Croatia, etc.
What the Finnish people with their Finnish language from Uralic language family have to do with Italians or the Portuguese? They're closer to Karelian people living in Russia than to them. But Finland, Italy and Portugal are considered Western, yes?
Even the Slavic nations, based on their ethnicity, language and culture can be divided into West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs. I didn't come up with this division, you know :) Professionalists did.
So, again, what about such countries like:
Hungary
Romania
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Albania
Are these countries: Central, Western or Eastern?
They have to be called somehow, they're not "Martian Europe" after all, right? :)
I fail to understand what this has to do with categorizing Poland geographically based on ethnicity and language.
Terms "Western Europe", "Central Europe" and "Eastern Europe" are broader terms and aren't only based on geography, ethnicity and language.
If they were, country like Greece wouldn't be considered Western. Greek language belongs to Hellenic languages and Greece is in the South of Europe and it belongs to the Balkans together with Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Croatia, etc.
What the Finnish people with their Finnish language from Uralic language family have to do with Italians or the Portuguese? They're closer to Karelian people living in Russia than to them. But Finland, Italy and Portugal are considered Western, yes?
Even the Slavic nations, based on their ethnicity, language and culture can be divided into West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs. I didn't come up with this division, you know :) Professionalists did.
So, again, what about such countries like:
Hungary
Romania
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Albania
Are these countries: Central, Western or Eastern?
They have to be called somehow, they're not "Martian Europe" after all, right? :)
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
As I thought - you don't want to name them.
So, according to you Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, the Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Poland, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Ukraine are Eastern Europe, yes?
Then what about such countries like:
Hungary
Romania
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Albania
Are these countries: Central, Western or Eastern?
As I thought - you don't want to name them.
Just take the language and ethnicity map and you have the countries belonging to the Eastern European group.
So, according to you Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, the Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Poland, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Ukraine are Eastern Europe, yes?
Then what about such countries like:
Hungary
Romania
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Albania
Are these countries: Central, Western or Eastern?
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Liar, liar, as Harry would write :) Not even once have you answered my question. You've just posted some maps that were contradicting each other.
You're not able to name Eastern European countries. Or you don't wan't to name them - I wonder why? :)
I have answered it several times, you are just to lazy to count them yourself.
Liar, liar, as Harry would write :) Not even once have you answered my question. You've just posted some maps that were contradicting each other.
You're not able to name Eastern European countries. Or you don't wan't to name them - I wonder why? :)
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Berni23, berni23, you still haven't answered my elementary question: which countries do you consider Eastern European? :)
What do you mean by that?
As always taking the thread off topic with your elementary school knowledge.
Berni23, berni23, you still haven't answered my elementary question: which countries do you consider Eastern European? :)
geographically of course but politically there isn't really such a thing.
What do you mean by that?
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
I've never claimed Poland is in the West. What I'm writing all the time is that Poland is Central Europe.
but paulina if as you say Poland is in the 'west'
I've never claimed Poland is in the West. What I'm writing all the time is that Poland is Central Europe.
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
No, actually I'm educating people about Eastern Europe, as it seems you guys just don't have a clue, and I know a thing or two :)
What's wrong, Westerners don't like to learn about other cultures?
Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not going to take away your precious West! :D
Did you know that the first man in space was sent not by Germans, not by French and not even by the British?? :D
He was sent by Russians! His name was Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin - I'm sure they teach you in the West such basic things :))))
Still cant let it go, ehh?
No, actually I'm educating people about Eastern Europe, as it seems you guys just don't have a clue, and I know a thing or two :)
What's wrong, Westerners don't like to learn about other cultures?
Now you only need to convince everybody on how language and ethnicity wise Poland belongs to the West and you are ready to start the New Year as the epicenter of the world.
Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not going to take away your precious West! :D
A hint: Lead with the alphabet, continue with German, the French and even English loan words and culminate how Poland was in space.
Did you know that the first man in space was sent not by Germans, not by French and not even by the British?? :D
He was sent by Russians! His name was Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin - I'm sure they teach you in the West such basic things :))))
Paulina
6 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
One of the differences between East European and Central European culture/tradition is the fact that Eastern Europeans start celebrating Christmas today! It's because Orthodox Churches follow the Julian calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
We follow the Gregorian calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar
The Julian calendar is much older than the Gregorian, it was used in the first centuries of Christianity.
Orthodox Christians during Christmas Eve supper share prosphora instead of Christmas wafer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosphora
According to Wikipedia Christmas wafer originated in Poland and is used only in Central Europe: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_wafer
So, for Orthodox Christians the New Year is still to come! Russians celebrate the New Year twice! :D
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_New_Year
And something that is completely weird for Poles - Russians have Christmas tree and they exchange presents on the New Year!:
Btw, there's about 550-600 000 Orthodox Christians in Poland.
In case there are any Orthodox Christians on this forum from whichever country, I wish you:
С Рождеством Христовым!
Wesołych Świąt!
Merry Christmas!
:)))
One of the differences between East European and Central European culture/tradition is the fact that Eastern Europeans start celebrating Christmas today! It's because Orthodox Churches follow the Julian calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
We follow the Gregorian calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar
Spain,[19] Portugal, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and most of Italy implemented the new calendar on Friday, 15 October 1582, immediately following Julian Thursday, 4 October 1582.
The Julian calendar is much older than the Gregorian, it was used in the first centuries of Christianity.
Orthodox Christians during Christmas Eve supper share prosphora instead of Christmas wafer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosphora
According to Wikipedia Christmas wafer originated in Poland and is used only in Central Europe: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_wafer
So, for Orthodox Christians the New Year is still to come! Russians celebrate the New Year twice! :D
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_New_Year
And something that is completely weird for Poles - Russians have Christmas tree and they exchange presents on the New Year!:
Btw, there's about 550-600 000 Orthodox Christians in Poland.
In case there are any Orthodox Christians on this forum from whichever country, I wish you:
С Рождеством Христовым!
Wesołych Świąt!
Merry Christmas!
:)))
Paulina
3 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
Different? You mean "difference"? It doesn't make the slightest difference concerning what?
You keep repeating that over and over again, but you're not able to prove it or at least explain what you mean.
What is Eastern about Polish culture?
Art and architecture are elements of culture.
I was asking you what is Eastern about Polish architecture. You weren't able to answer that question.
To make it easier for you I've asked you which of the Western architecture styles you can find in Russia.
Your answer was: "Most of them".
So, what are those "most of Western architecture styles" in Russia? Do you even have the slightest idea what you're writing about?
LOL Exactly :)
Pleased to hear it, not that it makes the slightest different either way.
Different? You mean "difference"? It doesn't make the slightest difference concerning what?
Indeed it is, for many reasons - culture, cuisine, economics, etc.
You keep repeating that over and over again, but you're not able to prove it or at least explain what you mean.
What is Eastern about Polish culture?
Art and architecture are elements of culture.
I was asking you what is Eastern about Polish architecture. You weren't able to answer that question.
To make it easier for you I've asked you which of the Western architecture styles you can find in Russia.
Your answer was: "Most of them".
So, what are those "most of Western architecture styles" in Russia? Do you even have the slightest idea what you're writing about?
How a country can be Eastern in regard to economics ? You mean it's poor ? So once we get ahead of Portugal (which should happen within 5 years), Portugal will be Eastern then ?
LOL Exactly :)
Paulina
2 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]
And as you probably understand, jon357, I don't mean that tiny patch of Russian territory that is called Kaliningrad nowadays ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberg_Cathedral
OK, that's it for today, good night :)
Really? Romanesque? Gothic? Renaissance? Could you show or name examples?
And as you probably understand, jon357, I don't mean that tiny patch of Russian territory that is called Kaliningrad nowadays ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberg_Cathedral
OK, that's it for today, good night :)