Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


To be honest, if they can't raise 15%, then they shouldn't be buying a flat in the first place. I would be all in favour of raising it to 20% - yes - it would mean home ownership would decrease, but look at Germany - renting is common there and isn't seen as an issue.


And he's paying nearly a thousand a month to run it - so he should drop it. If a car costs you 1/6th of your income - it really is time to give it up.


Most Polish cities - it's about 80zl a month.

So - we've already worked out that they can save about 1000zl a month easily.

And they could easily buy a flat in a satellite town - take Poznan for instance. There are plenty of decent flats available in places like Szamotuly, Oborniki, Wresznia, Srem, etc - for around 150k for a good sized, modernised flat. Train to Poznan is about 250zl a month, and takes around 30-40 minutes. Given that vast amounts of people around the world commute for 1.5 hours (look at London - 2 hour commutes are normal) - what's the issue?

Much of the problem is due to people wanting only the best and not being willing to work hard enough to get it.


Actually - this is interesting that you mention this. I think, honestly speaking, this is what breaks many Polish couples - women have a desire to get pregnant as soon as possible here, and I've seen several couples where they've let the hormones take over - and as a result, they'll probably be forever renting.

Sorry, but there's no right to buy property.

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


Unlike in English, Polish is defined by a single authority - and any arguments about "legitimacy" should be referred to them. Anyway, it's a word of peasant origin.


Perhaps so, but don't try and claim that it's a Polish word.


It isn't according to the PWN.


No, I just accept that the PWN is a far more definitive source on Polish than some dumb internet rednecks.

(Busia, as has been proven countless times on here, has never existed in Polish as a whole)

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]

Pretty much.

One thing is certain : it was never a word uttered by the elite of Polish society.

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]

What has Polish-American speech got to do with Ironside's point that it's a legitimate Polish word?

Busia is simply a word used by people who are too uneducated to use the correct word. Given that "Busia" was almost certain a peasant when she arrived, it does make sense.

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


You think people who use "Busia" know what a dictionary is?

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


Yes, very legitimate - so legitimate that the PWN don't recognise it as such. Sorry, Ironside - but we, defenders of the Polish language, feel that the custodians of the language are far more of an authority than some Americans.


It doesn't sound good because it's not a Polish word.


Because "bab-cha" is so difficult, isn't it?

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


All it's really proven is that Mark Biernat will never own a property in Krakow.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


What, where?

Even at their highest, 350k would buy you 65-70sqm in an average area in Poznan - an area with good tram connections straight to the centre at that. Nowadays, you'll get closer to 80sqm for that price.


So in other words, a newly-wed couple only have to earn 30k for a deposit. Not really difficult - they'll have little expenses and will simply have to cut back on "nice" things for a while - just like newly-wed couples all over the world.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


Indeed, it's a common mistake that people make to say "wow, a small place will cost you 1/2 of your income" - when in reality, most people with only one income would be sharing a place anyway.

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [453]


Works well, doesn't it?

I'm sure the drinking problem would solve itself overnight in the UK if the opening hours were truly liberalised along with the introduction of the drunk tank.

You do have to wonder what the tosser was doing to get a kicking from the police.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


Isn't the average income in Warsaw now well above 5000zl? I've seen some figures somewhere stating that...

Genealogy / Russian Poland-what general area would this be? [30]

So he wasn't born in Poland, but rather Russia.

As for area - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_Poland

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]


Personally, I'd have loved it if he admitted that the military was in a shocking state and that they should disband the lot and start again (except with the possible exception of the special forces). Wouldn't have been popular among the military, but this would've gained fans from all over the political spectrum.

The state of the 36th (and swift demise) was disgraceful.

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]

No need for such elaborate theories - we already know (and it was exposed) that there was a horrible culture of sloppiness within the air force prior to Smolensk. You'll find plenty online about how they were always taking risks, how they weren't trained properly and so on - and now that more and more is getting discovered, many top guys simply will be looking for a way out.

Suicide (in their minds) might very well be better than being sacked in disgrace.

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]

Sorry, but he's actually an American pretending to be Irish - in other words, one of your own.


I'm not surprised. Given that Smolensk exposed a culture of sloppiness, half-heartedness and general incompetence - I'm not surprised that military guys saw suicide as a realistic option.


Mods?


Not much to say. He's been caught indulging in illegal activities (which, for a military man, means his career is over) and obviously was making some sort of statement with this little attention-seeking stunt. He'll now be retired on medical grounds, and will no doubt join PiS later.

Life / Price of cigarettes in Poland? [192]

The Poles couldn't care less.

History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]

Poland didn't exactly respect territorial integrity of other countries too, did she?

Lithuania, Czechoslovakia....

Life / Sending SMS / text message online from/to Poland? [22]

mojabramka.pl maybe?


sms.telebox.pl
vbs.pl
sms.priv.pl

Enjoy :)

Life / K+M+B-2012 - formula on flats in Poland [63]

Thanks guys :)


God forbid saying the same thing to a Pole abroad though - we all know how they only choose to respect the bits they like.

Bit like the British, really...

Life / Automobiles vs. Pedestrians in Poland [77]


I'd be looking at doing it properly - everything backed up with video evidence. All they'd need to do would be to put a few unmarked cars around and bust people for all the absolutely awful things that you see every day. But - I'd rather see them deal with the diabolical parking that you see.


I don't get it as well - I've seen police cars doing speed checks on busy roads where cyclists are banned, and yet they won't stop the (invariably) old man on a bike who seems to be utterly oblivious that he shouldn't be there.

Always thought that one of the scourges of Polish roads are the villagers who cycle (often a bit drunk) very slowly on main roads.

Life / Automobiles vs. Pedestrians in Poland [77]


It would help a lot. I'm almost certain that if we saw the formation of dedicated traffic police units, funded entirely by fines - we would see a huge decrease in stupid behaviour, especially if it was tasked with stamping out dangerous moves.

I even know myself - last night, compulsory right turn - but the road was empty and I could make a left turn (that I wanted to make). What did I do? Made a left turn, of course - the fine/points simply weren't enough of a deterrent, combined with the knowledge that the police are highly unlikely to be there, or care.

Life / K+M+B-2012 - formula on flats in Poland [63]


And that's exactly the issue.

The same arrogance caused the Spanish to reject the church, the same in Ireland - guys, learn from your mistakes!

Then again, when you've got people who blindly support everything you do for their own twisted reasons, it's no surprise that certain elements think they're untouchable.

Life / K+M+B-2012 - formula on flats in Poland [63]

Indeed, I could tell you about some real horror stories (in fact, I did tell you!) - but there are some great guys out there too.

I've noticed one thing - the more active a priest is in his community (in terms of doing things, not in terms of interfering) - the better he tends to be. It seems to be very much the ones who are "I'm a priest, bow down and respect me" who tend to be far worse.

Always thought that if the church had an effective mechanism to remove the bad ones and to deal with problems quickly - it would be a real force to be contended with, not only in Poland, but in the whole of Europe.


That explains why you're never in Warsaw to come to the pub :P

To return to the thread somewhat -

What's this about chalking it on the door frame? It's always chalked directly on the door here...

Life / K+M+B-2012 - formula on flats in Poland [63]


More flaming.

Mods?

Life / K+M+B-2012 - formula on flats in Poland [63]


Mods?


Actually, "millions" is a bit of an overstatement. You'll rarely see it in modern developments, and in older developments, those with their own doors (rather than the original) tend to shun it as well. I'm thinking of several of my neighbours - my flat was built in the 80's, and you'll only find this chalked on the "old" doors.

To someone who has actually been in Poland at all (ie, not you Polonius/Des) - have you ever seen this chalked on a "new" flat door?


Opłatek sharing has little to do with religion these days in Poland - it's becoming a secular tradition very quickly.

As for the final part of your post - why don't you live in Poland, rather than living in a country full of "sterile, secularist, materialist scum"?

(incidentally - Poles are as materialist as they come. You have seen the mass of disgustingly garish big houses in the Polish countryside, right?)

Life / K+M+B-2012 - formula on flats in Poland [63]

Of course, Polonius doesn't live in Poland. In fact, he's never lived in Poland.

What makes his post especially cute is that he completely fails to mention whether he has it on his own American door.

Life / Automobiles vs. Pedestrians in Poland [77]


Really?

Perhaps you'd like to explain why the figures for Scotland aren't comparable to Poland then, despite having some of the most isolated areas in Europe?

Life / Automobiles vs. Pedestrians in Poland [77]


Could it be because those countries actually bother to enforce driving laws?

Nothing to do with the laws on jaywalking, and everything to do with lack of enforcement.

Interestingly, Australia is safe, yet has quite strong jaywalking laws.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


You'd think that it would be easy for him, seeing as he watched it at the time.

Could it be that our old friend Mark is just telling yet more lies?

Life / Automobiles vs. Pedestrians in Poland [77]


It's quite normal in many countries. You have a red light, universally understood as "don't go". Cars get fined for going through red lights, why not people?


The law is clear - I don't remember the exact number, but there's a certain distance from a marked crossing - after that, you can cross where you want.


Not really, just read the relevant law and you're sorted.