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Paulina   
3 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]

My God, I see this thread turned into a food fight ;D

Seriously?

Teffle, I think that if someone isn't a good cook he/she can spoil even a simple dish :)
This one for example:

favorki - fried cakes

I wouldn't call it "cakes":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Wings

I don't know how would you judge the level of difficulty of faworki (it's a simple dish, after all), but I would say that it isn't so easy to make really tasty faworki. I know because I can compare those that I've eaten in restaurants and bought at shops or at confectionery and those made by my mum and my grandmother. Even my mum's and my grandma's faworki differ. My grandma's are better. I don't know why, my mum is always trying to make them as crispy, delicate and tasty, but she never succeeds. Grandma's faworki can even fall apart - they're that crispy, they just melt in your mouth... aaahhh... They're perfect... They're the synonym of heaven... ;O

*drools*

;D

None of them seem difficult at all.

I don't get it, does a dish have to be difficult to make to be tasty? :)

As for Bigos, the stuff is revolting.

Well, it definitely isn't "revolting" for me :) Germans also seem to like bigos, as I've heard (probably they're more familiar with such types of dishes).

I, for example, find sushi revolting, I just hate the taste of raw fish. Algae isn't too appealing for me either. But apparently sushi is quite popular (I don't understand why, but hey... everything is for the people :)) :) And it's a such a simple dish!

Some people are crazy about all those types of French cheese, some people hate it.
I guess that during childhood we get used to certain flavours and ways of cooking.
The Japanese like to bring out the natural flavour of ingredients. They can do this with all types of fish as they live on islands and they can always get fresh fish (and hence the raw fish in sushi, I suppose).

Europeans, the French for example, like to alter the taste of ingredients with all kinds of different spices and treat them in all kinds of ways.

I think simple dishes can be very tasty. Look at the Chinese cuisine - it's simple, tasty and affordable. And probably that's why it's so popular around the world :)

Now, what I think nott meant (but was a bit too critical, I think ;)) is that there's not much real cooking done in the British households? I can't say from my experience as I've never been to the UK, but my mum spent some time in the North of England because she was sent there from her work place for a training. She said that "normal" cooking has been, apparently, replaced by heating up ready meals bought at shop in a microwave. One exception was a wife of my mum's colleage from work and her tasty food, but she was a professional cook (chef ?).

My mum said the fish & chips were omnipresent ;)
Of course, she had a limited experience but I can imagine what she said was true as I can see the same thing is slowly starting to happen also in Poland...
Paulina   
2 Nov 2010
Genealogy / Popular Polish First Names? [152]

what is most popular Slavic sounding Polish first name?

Thanks in advance for info

No idea, but Polish Slavic names usually end with "-sław". For example, Polish president - Bronisław Komorowski, the Minister of Foreign Affairs - Radosław Sikorski, and there's of course Jarosław Kaczyński.

Polish Slavic names end also with "-mir" and "-mił": Sławomir, Bogumił. There are also names like Zbigniew, Bogdan, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_names

My guess would be that most popular are Stanisław, Przemysław, Zbigniew, Kazimierz, Władysław, etc.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]

Bread in most countries tends to taste "weird" to non-natives. As does the milk. Just one of those things : )

Maybe, but judging by her description I suspect that there's simply more chemical stuff added. She said it doesn't become stale for a long time which is kind of weird o_O
Paulina   
2 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]

Are these Poles correct or are they just complaining?

I don't know... I've never paid too much attention to stuff like that. But my cousin is studying biotechnology and she went to Germany in September to get some scientific experience at a biotechnological institute in Potsdam. She says bread there is terrible. It's rather hard, very "artificial", has a very strong smell of chemicals and even when you put some cold cuts on a slice of bread it doesn't kill the taste and the smell o_O When it becomes stale it's more edible and then she and her friend make toasts out of it ;)

When she visited home for the first time the first thing she wanted was a simple bułka (bun) to eat it on its own ;)

That's all I know :)
Paulina   
30 Oct 2010
Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]

Awww, that's sweet, Grunwald ;) It looks like you're a nice person :) I guess it's better than being a jerk ;)

Polish boys are bloody fantastic!!

Yup ;)

(Sigh) Oh to be a real man and a gentleman - simultaneously that is - isn't that what women want?

Yes, yes! (or in turns, at least ;D)
:>
Paulina   
27 Oct 2010
Love / English Men vs Polish Men [207]

you shold be honored that any englishman

LOL

:)))))

would put up with constantly misrable looking expresionthat most polish/eastern european woman have..

backword looking mentality

than your average cabbage loving pole

Oh dear...

:)

english women are liberated free thinking and economicaly more mature

Sweetie, then go and find yourself an English woman :) Who's stopping you?

*yawns*
Paulina   
26 Oct 2010
Love / Why do so many Polish girls dye their hair BLACK? [124]

I just moved to Poland recently and have been living here for 2 months and I realize that most of the Polish girls are dying their hair to black.

Um... Definitely not "most" lol At least not in my city :) I see mostly all shades of brown, dark blond and blond and some black.

some go for black hair. they are usually the ones with skinny jeans/ treggings, boots and painted nails with stars and such like.

Yup, quite often, I guess.
Paulina   
14 Sep 2010
Travel / My visit to Poland - Likes & Dislikes. [137]

in mine opinion it is quite rude to criticize foreigners for not knowing my native language.

Yes, I also think so when it's about tourists. It's silly to expect from someone who's coming to Poland for a couple of days to learn not the easiest language. Although when I'm visiting some foreign country I usually try to learn a couple of basic phrases useful while asking about directions, shopping, etc. (and I would do that if I were coming to Hungary too).

Well, I remember that when I was in Venice (swarming with tourists) and I went to a post office just behind St. Mark's Square (!) there was only one guy who spoke English and so I was able to buy stamps but when I came back after I finished writing postcards the guy was gone and the ladies weren't able to tell me (and other tourists) where I can send those postcards ;) It was quite a long time ago, but I was a bit surprised ;)

Btw, I've never thought of Poland as an obvious and attractive tourist destination, but I agree that in some places popular with tourists it's a good idea for the staff in shops, post offices or whatever to learn some English. At the same time there are in my opinion more important reasons to learn English (finding a job, for example) than being able to communicate with tourists.

And it will change with time - now kids learn English in schools (I had to learn Russian) and the same is with teenagers and students and in the future they will be able to communicate with tourists in English to some extent.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Paulina are they mistaking here then?

I don't know. Did they explain why it's incorrect? It would have to be explained to me in a relatively simple, non-scientific language ;)

And if it's incorrect then why Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Slovakia, etc. have such a high percentage of R1a? Doesn't this mean those nations are related to each other?

Serbia is part of Europe. Inclining to the right exists in Serbia too. You are mixing political with geographical concepts.

I don't understand...

As far as I've noticed even this forum is clearly showing polarization between two wider groups , those who feel closer to Germans (pragmatic ones), and the other group,

True, but Pan-Slavism movement wasn't very popular in Poland and isn't popular to this day.

aware of their origins (Slavic in historical, not biological sense).

And what does mean "Slavic in historical sense"?

Pan Slavic ideas exist to a certain degree everywhere Slavic people live.

True, but in Poland it isn't a big degree, I would say quite small, it's much bigger in Russia, and apparently in Serbia.

As I wrote before, Pan-Slavism wasn't very popular in Poland. The reason for this was the fact that it was used as a political tool by both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union to dominate and govern other Slavic nations:

"Pan-Slavism in Poland

Although early Pan-Slavism had found interest among some Poles, it soon lost its appeal as the movement became dominated by Russia, and while Russian Pan-Slavists spoke of liberation of other Slavs through Russian actions, parts of Poland had been ruled by the Russian Empire since the Partitions of Poland. Historically, Poland often saw itself in partnership with non-Slavic nations most of the time, such as Hungary, or Lithuania under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1569 to 1795. The influence of 19th century Pan-Slavism had little impact in Poland except for creating sympathy towards the other oppressed Slavic nations to regaining independence. At the same time while Pan-Slavism worked against Austro-Hungary with South Slavs, Poles enjoyed a wide autonomy within the state and assumed a loyalist position as they were able to develop their national culture and preserve Polish language, something under threat in both German and Russian Empires. A Pan-Slavic federation was proposed, but on the condition that the Russian Empire would be excluded from such an entity. After Poland regained its independence (from Germany, Austria and Russia) in 1918 no major or minor force considered Pan-Slavism as a serious alternative, viewing Pan-Slavism as little more than a code word for Russification. During Poland's communist era the USSR used Pan-Slavism as propaganda tool to justify its control over the country. The issue of the Pan-Slavism was not part of the mainstream political agenda, and is widely seen as an ideology of Russian imperialism."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism#Pan-Slavism_in_Poland
Paulina   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Natasa, I have no idea about phenotypes, genotypes, haplogroups and genetics in general :) I must say that your post didn't help me with understanding why the data in eupedia don't mean anything.

I don't care about genes either, but it was interesting to study this data.
For example, the second biggest haplogroup in Poland is R1b: Italic, Celtic, Germanic; Hittite, Armenian. So, given the proximity of Germany it's probably "Germanic".

Also, the biggest percentage of R1b is in Wales (82 %!). Does this mean that Wales are the most Celtic? Wales are followed by Ireland (79 %), Scotland (72.5 %) and England (67 %). Very high percentage. It seems quite logical as Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English people live on islands and therefore there was little mixing.

Oh, and they told me also that mixing more different genomes is improving human race

True. That's why family members shouldn't have children with each other - it would produce a greater risk of flawed DNA.
Mongrels, for example, are less prone to heridatary diseases than single breed dogs, as far as I know.

I think this interest in DNA?? goes hand in hand with significant political inclination to the right in Europe.

I have an impression that it's rather Serbs who like to stress how Slavic they are. Look at Crow LOL
Poles don't care that much about being Slavs or not - Pan-Slavism wasn't very popular in Poland.
And Poles consider Serbs as Slavs ;) I think the same is with the rest of Slavs.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Poles have the most genes in a group that incldues Balts, Macedonians and Greeks.

"R1a: Balto-Slavic, Mycenaean Greek, Macedonian" :)

Poland: 56.5 %
Ukraine: 50 %
Belarus: 49 %
Russia: 46 %
Slovakia: 40 %
Latvia: 40 %
Lithuania: 38 %
Czech Republic: 34 %
Hungary: 32.5 %
Estonia: 32 %
Croatia: 29 %
Norway: 28 %
Austria: 26 %
etc.

And Serbia... only 15 %. Interesting ;)
Paulina   
29 Aug 2010
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Or Keira Knightley for example:


Paulina   
26 Aug 2010
Life / Famous / Iconic Polish Women [48]

She came from my city, in a town not far from where I live, so she is uber important to me..(and to every women in Britain)...Ive read so much about her and her sisters and her daughters..quite a woman..

Yes, I have much respect and admiration for those women :)

I know, I was just giving an example of what I was looking for (if you read my caption I thought I made this clear, sorry if I didnt),

You were looking for another Florence Nightingale? :)

film stars are one thing but women who have done something to actually "contribute" is another..

Well, then Maria Skłodowska Curie lived at the same time as Florence Nightingale and contributed to science and she was already mentioned in this thread.

Irena Sendler "contributed" to saving lives: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler

The same was with Zofia Kossak-Szczucka (she was already mentioned in this thread): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zofia_Kossak-Szczucka

Emilia Plater - a national hero, was also mentioned in this thread: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia_Plater

If you're looking for a famous/iconic woman activist then read about Anna Walentynowicz: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Walentynowicz

But, you know, this thread is about famous/iconic Polish women, there's nothing about contributing to anything or what kind of contribution it should be ;) An actress also can be a famous icon. For example Marilyn Monroe - she didn't contributed to anything serious or important, I think, but she's a famous icon ;)

But Krystyna Janda is a different type of icon than Marilyn Monroe ;) She usually plays strong, independent, unhesitating women. And this is the way she was and is in real life, I think. When I think of her I think of a strong, independent, intelligent, successful woman. And about anti-communism because she played in such films like "Man of Marble" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Marble), "Man of Iron" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Iron) and "Interrogation" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przes%C5%82uchanie. I think you have to have some courage to play in anti-communist films in a country where there's a communist regime :) She's one of only 6 women, I think, who have their "star" in a Walk of Fame in £ódź (the rest 41 are men). She was awarded one of Poland's highest Orders: The Order of Polonia Restituta, also Gold Cross of Merit, The Order of Gloria Artis and French Ordre des Arts et des Lettres (third class). She was also awarded Médaille Charlemagne pour des Médias Européens (Karlsmedaille für europäische Medien:

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlsmedaille_f%C3%BCr_europ%C3%A4ische_Medien
for her actor's style and for committal in European integration, brining the East and the West together and her fight for women's rights. She was the first to create a private dramatic theatre (Teatr Polonia) in Poland. She's also a founder and president of the Krystyna Janda Culture Foundation.

culture.pl/en/culture/artykuly/os_janda_krystyna

"One of Poland's most popular theatre and film actresses. Also a director of theatre productions and films. Born on December 19, 1952, in Starachowice.

Janda is perhaps the only actress in Poland to enjoy star status. She has a vast number of fans whose admiration for her surrounds her with an aura resembling that which surrounded artists who enjoyed public favor during the "star era" of 19th century theatre. She owes her status to both powerful performances and a strong character that shines through in every role she undertakes.
"
Paulina   
26 Aug 2010
Life / Famous / Iconic Polish Women [48]

This thread is about Polish famous/iconic women, not British ones...

or about the fact Poland got the womens vote in 1918 which was ahead of a fair few of the so called advanced countries in the "west" but hardly anything is published about their fight for the vote, certainly not in English....

I don't think there was any fight... They didn't have to fight for it, I think, they just got it when Poland became independent in 1918 ;)

I remember I wrote an essay about the Pankhursts and was interested in this topic :)
Paulina   
26 Aug 2010
Life / Famous / Iconic Polish Women [48]

I would say that actress Krystyna Janda is both famous and iconic in a way (in Poland): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystyna_Janda

imdb.com/name/nm0417370
Paulina   
25 Aug 2010
Love / Are all beautiful Polish girls as crazy as this? [262]

Any genuinely 'nice' Polish ladies out there? I'd love to hear from you.

Sure, there are plenty, but why Polish ladies? I can see in you profile that you live in Scotland, right? Is there something wrong with Scottish ladies?

Prove me wrong.

Maybe pick better next time ;) And someone closer to your age...
Paulina   
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]

and stating that the murderous roman empire which enslaved the world and even murdered whole people for his own gain is hold up as "civilization" whereas their enemies and victims are sold to us as "barbarians".

Yeah, you tell him, BB! ;) I think this is one of few moments when I can identify myself with Germans:
youtube.com/watch?v=d39FBRxBM8k
;D
Paulina   
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

Yet present day Germans are blamed over and over again on this forum for what happened 75 years ago.

Not by me :)

Ender, I'll answer you tomorrow, I hope.
Paulina   
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

Learn from mother of friend ask her details ask her about her opinion.

My mom isn't from Kielce and she wasn't born yet at that time :)
As I wrote before, mother of my university professor witnessed what happened. He told us during the classes what she saw (of course, he should be teaching us instead but I'm glad he told us about this).

check Yad Vashem stories like this

I watched a documentary not so long ago on TVN about a Jew living in Israel who wanted to get his Polish citizenship back and he said that he was saved by a Polish family somewhere near Jedwabne, I think.

and for God sake START THINKING.

I am :)

Ender, do you live in Poland?
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

scale, premeditation, and soviet state apparatus

But the denial machanism is the same. People don't want to be viewed as monsters.

on the other hand if we assume than some polish elements did it ......

It is known that Poles did this, even if we assume that it was inspired in any way by the communist authorities or the Soviets. It was carried out by inhabitants of Kielce. Even some policemen were arrested for doing nothing to stop the killing.

there was criminal or deranged element demoralised by war

Probably, but I'm afraid not only.

and a few victims.

Eh... 37 innocent people isn't "a few victims".

I don't feel responsible for that at all.

And you don't have to, I think. We (me and you) didn't do this. It happened over half of a century ago.
But we have to face the fact that it happened (and that there was anti-semitism in Poland). I think Jews want us to admit that, and that it was wrong, that killing those people was a horrible crime and it shouldn't happen again. I know I would like to hear that from Russians about the Katyń massacre.
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

I don't think the comparison is right, you should know it yourself...

Why not? Both for Poles and Russians it's difficult to come to terms with what happened and both nations have a communist past (and it was 50 years of propaganda for Poles nad 70 years for Russians).

It may be different in this way that Polish officers were killed by a selected group of people and it was done due to a secret order of Stalin. And the Jews were killed by ordinary Poles, people from the same city :/
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

kiss the ass would be appropriate now...

You know, Ironside, I know a Russian who is a member of Memoriał
( pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoria%C5%82_%28stowarzyszenie%29 )
and dug the bones of Polish officers killed by NKVD, created a blog about Katyń where he puts information and evidence concerning the massacre and is discussing it with Russians and trying to convince them on the internet that NKVD did it. And you know how some Russians call this? Kissing the ass of Poles :)

The same is with one Russian woman from Moscow and I've learned a lot from her (but probably not enough).

I'm not kissing anyone's ass. I just try to explain some things and find out something for myself too.
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

"yes, it was us. We did it and we are deeply ashamed of it that we have done so."

But I didn't kill anyone :P
;)

(I've learned this from Russians ;D)

So, maybe it should be like this: "yes, it was the Poles. Poles did it and we are deeply ashamed of it that are compatriots have done so."

Paulina (just wondering if this version would be acceptable ;))
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

That it was them who committed the Pogrom in Kielce. Besides you and a few others on here, the usual suspects all deny it.

Well, for most normal people in Poland it's pretty obvious that Poles did it, I think. And there is a memorial plaque at 7 Planty Street and a monument nearby (not very impressive though, I must admit :/) uncovered during an aniversary of the pogrom (it was transmitted live by Polish TV) and on this occasion there was a concert in an open-air theater of Jewish kantors from Israel which I attended with my mom (there were a lot of people, whole families with children) so I guess we're getting there slowly...

And admitting that one's history might not be as glorious as one always has thought it was, is the first step to accepting that it was just that, which in turn means coming to terms with it, which in turn means letting the past go and move forward instead of remaining in the past.

I agree.
But after 50 years of hibernation facing the truth is painful and we're probably still in the stage of digesting it all...
It's not pleasant to know that your compatriots killed their neighbours out of some irrational prejudices, so people try to rationalise it or blame it on somebody else or deny it.

And, I think, some Poles are afraid to admit what was done in the past because they think that also present-day Poles will be labeled as some monsters who have anti-semitism in their genes.

I can see sometimes the same fear in some Russians blaming the Nazis for the Katyń massacre. It seems they don't believe that Russians could do such a thing. And probably they don't want to.

I've noticed the same about Turks denying Armenian genocide. They don't want to be viewed by the world as monsters.
Of course, people who deny such things or try to blame it on others choose the wrong way, they just make the world believe they didn't change. But it's sometimes difficult to explain this to them :)

Well, I guess the best way is to educate people in a calm and not agressive manner.
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

One day the Poles will admit

Admit what?

and then the road lies open for acceptance.

What acceptance?
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

Well, it was a period of widespread violence against Jews with of course the culmination in the Kielce incident. Most of them in Eastern Poland, however, there was violence in Western Poland too and in Krakow, which doesn't really lie in Eastern Poland.

Yes, Kraków is in the South and was in the Austrian partition. Well, as I wrote - it's just a theory ;) Maybe Russian partition had some influence, maybe it was because it was the poorest partition and least developed, I don't know.

It's not like, of course, Russians invented anti-semitism and it came from Russia to Poland :)

Paulina, ender is an anti semite, not covertly but openly. He even proclaimed himself to be proud of it. I mean stupid is as stupid does, but to be actually proud of it, takes the biscuit :)

I was just curious if by writing "Kosher Zeitung" he meant "Gazeta Wyborcza" :) Because I gave a link to an article in gazeta.pl and this newspaper is called by people with radical right-wing views (those who are anti-semites at least) as "Jewish", "communist", "anti-Polish" and stuff like that ;)

I said nothing like that, and it didn't.

I meant that there were pogroms before and Jews were killed.

Easy Terran was saying that the Poles were only puppets in Ruskie's hands.

What do you mean by that? A crowd of ordinary people killed the Jews. The police did almost nothing to stop this. Do you have any evidence to prove it wasn't the case?

Important date, important meating (July, Nurymberg... do I have to draw a picture here???)

And what about other pogroms in history of Poland? How would you explain them?
Paulina   
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [302]

For those interested - I found this:
niniwa2.cba.pl/lato_sasiedzkich_pogromow.htm

Next, place - why Kielce not other town left in good state ? Where the independent forces were strongest at the time, where national movement were strong as well ? ?

Well, there's this theory that anti-semitism grew stronger because of the Russian partition and Kielce was in Russia during the partitions. But I don't know if that was really the case... One would have to check in which regions of Poland pogroms were most common, I guess.