History / Why is Vatican traditionally on German and not on Polish side? [65]

Vatican now support Serbians. Does this mean that now Vatican support Poland, too? No more deals with German Protestant magnates? God knows we needs Vatican`s support if we were to form new Commonwealth because west of Europe already complaints.

In any case, Vatican agree with Serbia on Kosovo. Vatican refused to recognize separation of Kosovo from Serbia. Kosovo is Serbian territory and Vatican respect Serbian constitution where is status of Kosovo nicely explained. Plus, Vatican accepted Serbian complaint in case with stance of Catholic clergy in Croatia that issued beatification of the Cardinal Stepinac who was involved in genocide on Serbians during WWII. A mixed commission of the Serbian Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church would consider historical facts from the Second World War era and the role of Catholic Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac in the Independent State of Croatia (NDH).

Serbian president meets with Pope Francis in Vatican

More proofs that we are now loved and that we love

Source: "No rush to make Stepinac saint; no recognition of Kosovo" / b92/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=09&dd=11&nav_id=95409

another proof that love and mutual understanding exist

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

Normality is to accept that we Serbs want peace and normal neighborly relations between Poland and Russia. Its the first necessity in our Serbian big plan.


battle is battle, war is war.


jone, stop delude yourself, you have to understand reality. Serbia would be annexed by EU... he, he, same what Austro-Hungaria done and then Poland suddenly got its independence.

POLACY W OBRONIE SERBII Polish support for Serbian brothers

youtube.com/watch?v=QEeJPlXlsmY

and we Serbs are with you Poles. Eternally. If we can do something and right now we can, we won`t let anything happen to Poland.

Poljska, Poljska, Poljska!

Back to the topic please


yes pane (or panka)

Freedom to Polish apples!

Let us all eat Polish apples in solidarity with Polish apple producers!

repeat after me: ``Full mouth of Polish apples! Full mouth of Polish apples! Full mouth of Polish apples!``

Story says that when Russian trade ministry informed Putin that Serbian apples aren`t Serbian but Polish, Putin assured trade minister that are apples Serbian.

Good news, good news! why only Anglos, Chinese, Brazilians, Russians and Germans? We all want money

Russians and Serbians signed new documents and memorandums on cooperation in October. New chances for Poles and Czechs to stay and enter in business via Serbians. Russians decided to close their eyes. They even love it.

Russia, Serbia sign documents on cooperation
b92/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=10&dd=27&nav_id=95856

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

F*** stronger links between Poland and Russia. We Serbs aren`t utter morons to want that. It would be mission impossible. We Serbs demand peace and normality between Poles and Russians. Only that we want and, we Serbs always get what we want. Poles and Russians love us and won`t act against our Serbian interests.


European Union? what European Union?

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

again you with your repetitive nonsense. Are you now total moron jone357? We Serbians managed to perfectly articulate what we want and we want that Russians and Poles forget to their conflict now. We Serbians demand that. Its part of our plans and scheme.

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

Russia, Russia, Russia, bla, bla, bla.

Russia won`t dare even to think moving against Poland. That strong is Serbian love for Poles. It would be exactly as we Serbians want and we want peace and elementary normal relationship between Poland and Russia. Only that.

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

Being against Russia doesn`t necessarily means to be pro-Polish. Sometimes yes, that was the case. What we see these days is that is Poland`s regime anti-Polish and that no matter Russia. In numerous areas we see how is Poland betrayed by `its own` government.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]


BDW, i forgot to mention. Song that is sang by Serbian soldiers `I Kissing your White breasts` is old Serbian traditional lyric poem.


Yes. Its obvious


This is the ultimate truth


let us hope that would USA support re-creation of Commonwealth (ie Intermarium) in time. Still, Intermarium`s politics on global military alliance should be neutral.

Spot mark of belonging to the modern day army of Serbia- army that in past gave military elite of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Its an old Sarmatian insignia named `ocilo` (in Serbian) which means `from father`. Its a symbol of sun and solstice. In old books it often stays protected by dragon or even as a shield to dragon.

Serbian army ocilo

Now, spot same symbol



Monete of the Polish King Mieszko I, over 1000 year old currency

This is the very origin of the symbol. Tool for making the fire of the ancients - a Fire Steel known in Serbian as `sign from fathers` - OCILO. In Ocilo, fire steels stays around cross, with turned back to each others in ultimately defensive and protecting position.



Awake Sarmats! Unite in Intermarium! Commonwealth - last tower of defense!

Very good article on necessities for Intermarium in modern European and world politics. i warmly suggest this for reading

Plight of Central European Nations in the Wake of Western Oder Demise

August 6, 2008; by Ignacy Nowopolski
ignacynowpolski.blogspot.rs/2008/08/plight-of-central-european-nations-in.html


POLISH PRESIDENT DUDA SUGGESTS FORMATION OF NEW COMMONWEALTH

Finally

Intermarium Alliance - Will the idea become reality?

12.08.2015 | 17:45 /
unian.info/politics/1110820-intermarium-alliance-will-the-idea-become-reality.html





GOLDEN FREEDOM!

More then interesting

By Going to Tallinn on August 23, Poland's Duda Begins Forming Intermarium

Sunday, August 23, 2015 / Paul Goble
windowoneurasia2.blogspot.rs/2015/08/by-going-to-tallinn-on-august-23.html



These days Net seams to be full of comments on ​​Miedzymorze. We who live on Baltic-Balkan-Black sea line should start learning Polish.

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

Title of the thread is > Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia. i didn`t start the thread. i just came to say what i want. So, let regime in Poland just serve people in Poland.

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

i want to see pro-Polish government in Poland. That i want to see.

News / Food producers from Poland should stop suffering from obliged sanctions against Russia [75]

Polish government is obliged to tell truth to the Poles, not to tries to delude Poles for the sake of western European and USA interests (read ie interests of few greedy magnates there). Let`s not talk of `Russian bullying` when we on terrain in Ukraine have Nazi followers that abused rightful demands for changes of Ukrainian people (and even Russian people within Ukraine) and, at the same time pledge to commit genocide on Russian people, at the same time torturing Ukrainian people.

Right now regime in Poland endangering future of entire Slavic civilization. This what regime in Poland doing isn`t just betrayal. Its not irresponsibility. Its rather real dedication to destroy Poles first and then all other Slavs.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]


Pane moderatore, we all agree with rules but i warmly suggest you to rather take part in this discussion. This is thread for us who love Poland and don`t wish to see it sunk, while also don`t wish to see Poles assimilated.


Pane Randome, post isn`t related only to the Friedman`s work.

Still, Friedman`s "The Next 100 Years" nicely, this way or another, speak of rising necessity for Poland`s increased role in European affairs, especially in Eastern, Central and South-Eastern Europe.

It is quite realistically to expect that would at one point of time (soon, let`s hope) Poland refuse dictate from the Brussels and pledge to restore its own zone of influence, in order to prevent final destruction of Polish biological, economic and cultural potentials. What is most important is that these intentions of Poland for sure can count on support from regional countries- on the first place from Serbia and from Visegrad Group countries. Many other countries would follow being willingly semi-dependent on stance of these countries, for cultural and economic reasons.

By all Geo-Strategic signals, it is interesting that we can expect that Poland can expect Russia`s understanding for her `expansionism`. It would be in Russian interest (in interest of emerging Eurasian Union) to have strong Poland (conglomerate of countries united around Poland) on her western borders, rather then to have strong EU with assimilated Poles in it on those same borders. So, as great Pilsudski suggested it is the last moment for creation or rather for re-creation of Commonwealth around Poland. It is perfect historical moment that Poland establish long sustainable balance between western Europe and Russia. Let west of Europe have EU, let Russia have Eurasian Union, let Poland have Commonwealth or to say Intermarium (i like decent Polish word, Międzymorze; in Serbian its Medjumurje).


This work telling much about global processes that are real, no matter what would happen in a last of technical detail.

Idea of new Commonwealth becoming reality because we live in a time when is obvious that would, on one side- Poles would practically extinct in next 100 years if fails to form new Commonwealth and, on the other side- because Polish elite can see obvious personal interest in formation of Commonwealth around Poland. All this is followed with fact that Commonwealth as most serious option represent hope not only for Poland but for entire list of countries on Balkan-Baltic line, for all kind of reasons.

in most of what they told to Poles, Prince Adam Kazimierz Czartoryski and Marshal Józef Klemens Piłsudski, told truth to the Poles.

The national anthem of Serbia welcomed by Polish fans in Warsaw 2014



Velika je Poljska!

Serbian soldiers in peacekeeping mission in Lebanon, celebrate day dedicated to the memory of old Slavic Svetovid

Serbian peacekeepers celebrate Vidovdan in Lebanon

youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=qffCG1bBCBI

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

i don`t know for you people but, looking at the development of situation in Europe and world, being aware that is EU proven failure, that is NATO something wrong, realizing that every single global power ultimately seek to secure its survivor and dominance, .... i found that talks about future new Commonwealth around Poland becoming more and more realistic and desirable


i share my position with you on this. You said well but, its not that simple. Look on the example of EU. Poland isn`t directly responsible for the wave of refugees but only over shared responsibility via NATO/EU membership. Then, even without shared responsibility (even essentially perfectly innocent), Poland is in situation to calculate its position. There are moral questions. What to do with a refugees on your borders if they insist to come in. Let them in or keep them out at all costs? If let them in: how to organize that, how to reduce freedom of those refugees on your territory if they want to stay or maybe they are just in transit, put them in camps, try to assimilate them in society, expel them after some time, how to expel them if they don`t wish to go, etc, etc?

Then, if one decide to accept refugees, no matter following just moral standards or just fulfilling its international obligations what are consequences- for economy, for way of life, etc?


sure, millions of Slavs from Baltic to Balkan and Ukraine but, not only Slavs. It would be conglomerate compared to what are today`s USA, EU or Eurasian Union. It could be confederation or federation, republic or parliamentary monarchy, depend how organizers of the new Commonwealth decide. Polish language would be main language there (same is English in USA, German in EU or Russian in Eurasian Union).


for sure i don`t see it as dictatorship. Its neither the idea, neither would people, citizens, magnates and member states allow new Commonwealth to become dictatorship. It would be against their interests.

New Commonwealth have to have its mission. To be symbol of freedom, civilization and beacon of light. Have to endure from our time to the eternity. To reach stars together with humanity of the future. To last long enough to remain remembered and worth even after the eternity. Blessed creation of Slavic soul.

evening gift for my Polish sisters and brothers

Rota

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

All great conglomerates of the past and our time were formed by some leading people or nation and on the first place on the behalf of that leading people/nation.

with new Commonwealth would be different. It would be around Poland, initiated by the Serbians and on the behalf of all people there.

What crossed my mind these days.... what should be stance of new Commonwealth on problem of the refugees? Its not an easy question considering that would number of refugees in the world most probably continue to increase in next 100 years.

In a chain reaction on multiple catastrophic events, massive movements of population could even shaken the very fundaments of civilization.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

TheOther

does this mean that you suggest dissolution of EU or USA? for start

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

interesting. But listen, don`t worry. If world can survive one USA, Canada, Australia, UK, EU or Eurasian Union, world then for sure can survive one new Commonwealth around Poland.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

Warwicktiger

So you can imagine Canada, Australia, USA and even UK as the great Anglo commonwealths, while you can`t imagine new Commonwealth around Poland? Also, you for sure see that is EU nothing but a kind of Germanic commonwealth. Still, you deny right to Poles to try to form Commonwealth around Poland, not only for Poles, not only for the good of Poles.

Why do you vulgarize necessity and possibility of creation of new Commonwealth around Poland? i am not Polish. you can`t accuse me for speaking for the `Greater Poland`. i am Serbian and i feel necessity for a more active role of Poland on the Baltic-Balkan line. That vast region was the realm of old Polish Kings and i accept it and salute it. So, i telling it once more - new Commonwealth is necessity.

what are your political beliefs Warwicktiger? are you fascist, racist? do you hate Slavs?

Off-Topic / Which western European country would assimilate more Poles and other Slavs in next 50 years? [12]

Merged: What can prevent extinction of Poles due to assimilation ?

Is it even possible to prevent extinction of Poles? If you think that it is possible, please elaborate.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

fear from regime in Poland is possible only because is Poland`s ruling elite absolutely separated from Polish people and isolated from viable influences from Slavic countries such is Cezska, Slovakia and Serbia. At the same time, that same corrupted regime exposed Poland and Poles to merciless assimilation by Poland`s EU and NATO partners- USA and west of Europe.

History / Dacians in Poland [18]


Vlachs themselves are sub-group of Slavs that was exposed to foreign influence (to level of the Hellenic cultural influence).


yes

It is also interesting that greatest rebel slave Spartak (Spartacus - ie Sarmatian), great slave leader against Roman oppressors, also was by old sources of the Thracian origin. So, we again here have that ancient dualism (as a rule), that something that stays in connection with Sarmatian name (Spartak) also stays closely related to the Thracian name/Thracia (Th-racia).

News / Nazi gold train 'found in Poland' [90]

well, one can always sent mother of his wife in search. Suitable song for background could be `make at least one wrong step ...`


for what? for EU`s Nazi projects in Europe?


i concur

News / Nazi gold train 'found in Poland' [90]

This about `gold Nazi train` was on Serbian evening news today. Comment was that gold could be Polish, Jewish or Russian. At the end was said that Israel ask for return of gold to Jews

In any case, somebody paid with its life for that gold. Nazism was and is real evil

UK, Ireland / Polish Nazi's humiliated in London - anti-Jewish demonstration [60]


by the good God, what is this? More young Slavs deluded with germanic ideological constructions?

Our Slavic younglings needs clear mind.

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]

i would pray that Duda isn`t failure. i don`t want even to think about it, now when is obvious that time works against Poland, when we all see how so called Polish `friends` in fact consuming Poland.

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]

Duda would expose all anti-Polish and anti-Slavic activities of PiS officials. Transparency is now best cure against corrupt Poland`s politicians.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

we all know that. But, if Poland fails to form one, there will be no Poland. Look, Pilsudski was aware of it.

i sincerely suffer when think of Poland`s destine. I hardly can`t found words to underline how is important for Poles to try, even if it could mean their last charge,... at least to try once more to walk with dignity, in some new Commonwealth around Poland. It is so sad to be witness of the downfall of such a great civilization, that distinguishing itself in foreign wars and for the profit of actually its mortal foes.

i hope, God would save Poland.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

i found that video clip quite interesting.

But, pane smurfe, why is this topic stupid to you? you maybe don`t like idea of EU conflicting with idea of Commonwealth? you don`t think that even discussion about it can`t bring anything good? so you sense the reality of dilemma?

well, i contemplated on that, too. But, i think that we can`t avoid topic. As you know, time works against Poland. At one moment Poland won`t have capacities to abandon EU, won`t have capacities to initiate formation of new Commonwealth. Then, after a while, with more time within EU, Poland won`t have capacities even to join in new Commonwealth initiated by some others. It would be just too late. Or won`t be pane smurfe? on that you count? pane smurfe?

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [223]

Merged: European Union vs. Commonwealth - What is better for Poland, to stay within EU or to form new Commonwealth?

There are the `pro at contra` arguments for EU and for the formation of new Commonwealth around Poland. In my opinion, EU already demonstrate few weaknesses. Still i found EU interesting for Poland on the short run. On the long run, i think that EU can`t compete with the new Commonwealth. For many reasons.

Anyway, i think that it is time that we talk openly about topic and directly in discussions face different arguments.

Then, if eventual new Commonwealth became reality, how should be organized? As federation or confederation of states? Should Commonwealth have its army? What should be main principles of its economic and social policy? What about moral values of the Commonwealth? Position of religion in Commonwealth? Politics on other powers? There are many questions.

History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

time would give all answers

History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]


well, it was news on net, so there was very informative thread back in past of this forum.

When we are at it, i often wondered how did Poles managed to survive all historical sh** that Germans imposed onto them. Then i realized. It is about penises or at least have impact on it. Germans are inferior. Then, knowing that Eastern Germany was Slavic in middle age i wondered how is that possinble that penises there differ from Polish or Serbian penises. So i concluded that germanization destroys man`s libido and penises.

History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

ha, Germans have smallest penises in Europe. See, germanization affected even that. Not to mention that there are other things that are wrong on affected territories. People need relaxation, reason and beauty. After all, people have right on its own history.

Who normal could seek to stay germanized and shortened.