History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]


I said it without previous checking coz I know the region well from our regular vacation trips to Wysowa and the vicinity of it. I have a photo collection of a few dozen Orthodox churches.
However, it isn`t 170 km. Coz Orthodox Lemkos lived closer to the capital of Lesser Poland - only 100 km. Amasing!!!!
Check this map, the best I found - Lemko settlements close to Krakow in the red circle.
Where and when did they find themselves there???????????????

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History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]


Of course, Volhyn Massacre was a genocidal act and I have never denied it.


Exactly.
Yet, it happened coz Ukrainians remembered occupations, annexations, invasions, persecution and oppression which they had had to suffer for centuries at the hands of Polish kings, gentry and finally ordinary colonists.
Were Ukrainians aliens who appeared in Volhyn all of a sudden and started murdering people for no reason, just for fun?? No, they had their reasons - generations of Poles had worked for it before.


Good. Let`s not waste time on fruitless exchanges. I have already destroyed your whitewashing denials several times and now let me focus on my historical presentation.

Life / Adopting a cat in Poland? [13]


You don`t have to cover any costs coz such things are done by the shelter for free.


You don`t need to bother about it. The shelter fixes everything for you. Just sign an adoption contract and the pet is yours.

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Later on, there were more rebellions and risings in the part of Ukraine owned by Polish state. The pattern of events regularly included massacres of Polish colonisers and Jews in the areas where the unrest took place, mostly in cities and towns. Killings were done by enraged Cossacks or Rus peasants who had enough of Polish overbearing rule or the cruel exploitation by Polish lords.

E.g, Palej`s Rising of 1702-1704:
In 1699 a new Polish king Augustus II disbanded the Cossack militia and signed a peace treaty with Ottoman Turkey. Cossacks were angered by this situation, and in 1702 colonel (polkovnyk) Paliy started an open rebellion against the crown. Rebellious Cossacks massacred their traditional enemies - Polish szlachta, Catholic priests and Jews - in the area they controlled.
Palei was arrested, imprisoned for a year in a fortress and, at the request of Peter I, extradited and taken to Russia. The peasants taken prisoner, of whom there were about 70,000, had their left ears cut off to mark them as disobedient and prone to rebellion. They were not punished with death due to the lack of manpower in Ukraine. Only the leaders of the uprising were killed.

News / POcopalypse of Poland. [28]


I remember ice cream called Calypso in different flavours. Not bad.

Coffee flavour was genuine. Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk liked it the most!!! Me, too!!!

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History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]


Explanations have been made dozens of times: Ukrainians do what Poles do and there is a balance in nature. Simple.


You are obsessed with 4th graders coz you mention them regularly. Why??????

History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]


Another Polish whitewasher.

This only shows that whitewashing history is a popular national sport in Poland as I already mentioned.


You mean Polish colonisers made cultural genocide on Ukrainian minority legal.
In result, Ukrainians decided to make their own genocide on Polish colonisers.


They already existed when there wasn`t Moscow......
Lemko minority which is Orthodox live in southern Poland near Gorlice region. It is only 170 km from Krakow considered the capital of Lesser Poland. Did Moscow bring them there??? No.

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Don`t be stupid. Ukrainians are protecting the free world`s ass so the aid we give them is for free.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]


Wow! You are up at 4 am. Why so early? They let you out of detention an hour ago and you are still agitated and can`t sleep???

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]

Below: Poland officially celebrates the anniversary of infamous nationalist military formation which killed a lot of innocent non combatants and collaborated with Nazi Germans during WW2.

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History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Not really. Ukraine is famous for its fertile lands which in Polish is named black soil - czarnoziem. Czern aka blacks were peasants who worked on black soil.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]


Because according to Polish whitewashing policy which has become a national sport, Polish crimes are good while others` crimes are bad.

History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]


Polish whitewashing continued:
Our crimes weren`t crimes at all, they were the norm at the time, let`s consider them history and move on. .
Others` crimes on us were horrible crimes which we mustn`t forget.

History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]


Yes, for 14 years he still hasn`t grown up enough to apologise first.

But my views of 2010 haven`t changed, either.

Polish pre-war authorities, believing that it was possible to polonize Ukrainian minority, committed a grave mistake. After various acts hostile to Ukrainians, the Polish-Ukrainian relations became the worst in history and their tragic culmination was the genocide of thousands of Poles in Volhyn region.


Yes, but still too many Poles/Polesses prefer to keep it under the carpet. Fake history, fake history!!! they cry, like Iron does in this forum.
When will we become mature enough to admit out guilt????

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]


Yes, why not? We should always strive to achieve a perfect balance in nature.

History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]


AmaSSing that so many Poles/Polesses are still too immature to admit Polish guilt. Does this issue concern the whole nation? No, but most of it.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Yes, it is disgusting to see that descendants of Polish colonisers of Ukraine are still in denial about their crimes.

Darling, the proper order of events is:
first Polish colonisers apologise to Ukrainians for centuries of oppression and cultural genocide, and then Ukrainians should agree to exhumations and other. And when they get mature enough as a nation, they will apologise too.

So, down on your knees, azholes, and start practising your apology now!
Or are you still too immature as a nation to be ready for such an act???

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


Of course. Dmowski, the Founding Father of Polish nationalism, also prefered Russia to Germany. hahahaha

Are you proud of being a son of the Founding Father??? :):):)


Polish nationalist attitude concerning Polish crimes on others. Ha!


Yes, exactly, but a bit antiquated, as if he acquired it from the British literature of the 19th century. :):):) He can`t have spent too long in NYC - he must have studied English still working as a freshman in the Kremlin troll factory in Russia. He read Wuthering Heights, Pride and Prejudice, Emma and similar. :):):)

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


I am certain he already does. He treats the PF as a private hobby while he carries out the job of a professional Kremlin troll somewhere else.

Life / Warsaw - what's there to love? Semi-livable city? [42]


Monuments which show topless females carrying swords - Mermaid (the coat of arms) and Nike (symbol of Warsaw heroism during WW2).
Such monuments are impossible in the US due to American bigotry and political correctness. That is why more and more US pensioners are moving to Poland as I have just read.

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History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]

Weak. :):):)

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Exactly!!! That`s why you are such a psycho today. Ha!!!! :):):)

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


Not at all. Polish nationalists have always tended to support Russia. AmaSSing!


Exactly!!! European Polish colonisers and barbarian Russian invaders - go to hell and leave Ukraine in peace.

The sad thing is that the Kremlin propaganda which you spread here to drive a wedge between Poland and Ukraine is also infecting some Poles/Polesses. Mostly scum like nationalists or Russophiles but also normal ones. Fortunately, it works only on elder generations. Because younger ones don`t care. I can see it in schools where I work with Ukrainian students.

Life / Warsaw - what's there to love? Semi-livable city? [42]


Warsaw - the most patriotic Polish city ever. Nazi Germans complained that if not for Warsaw, they would have 80% less problems with Polish underground during WW2.

Being a southern Pole, I love Warsaw as if I was born there.


Exactly! Patriotic Warsawians have always felt like Polish Messiahs who came into this world to save Poland.


E.g, The Old Town which was razed to the ground during WW2 and rebuilt afterwards. An excellent example of Polish stubborness

Check more fantastic Old Town panoramas by Mr Gorgolewski here:
fotoblog.gorgolewski.pl/panoramy_warszawy.html

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History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


That`s what I am here for! EDUCATION!!! Once a teacher, always a teacher! Hough!


No matter if they were or not. What matters is they took place. Ukrainians remembered them well. And they eventually took it out on Polish colonisers.


It wasn`t Polish benevolence. Banning the language was mission impossible at the time.

Check this map of prewar Poland - green shows Ukrainian language use.

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History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Yes, cultural genicide is what Polish colonisers were doing in Ukraine.
Do you even know what it means???
Also, do you even know the notion was invented by a Polish Jew?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide


Exactly. Cultural genocide. Thank you for admitting it.

Genealogy / Want to find a person [777]


This forum is too general and broad to help you with such detailed search. You need to check local fora/sites covering Zgierz and its history.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Dispute?? AMaSSing attitude of nationalists like you to Polish prewar policy towards Ukrainians which was genocidal in nature - Ukrainian culture was to be eradicated and replaced with Polish one.
Is it a surprise that Ukrainian nationalists felt they had no other choice but to remove Polish colonisers in the most brutal way? Poles/Polesses had worked for such treatment for centuries of colonisation and polonisation of Western Ukraine.


No, why??? :):):)

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Where did I say it????? :):):)

An interesting fact is that Rus peasants who weren`t Cossacks were called czerń - blacks.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czer%C5%84_(ruskie_ch%C5%82opstwo)
Cherń ( Ukrainian: чернь ) - a term coined in the 17th century to describe peasants who did not have the status of Cossacks and lived in the Dnieper Ukraine , i.e. the Bracław , Kiev and Chernihiv voivodeships of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth . Cherń was also referred to as peasants who took part in Cossack uprisings .

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


That`s an attitude cherished not only by nationalist maniacs like Ironside but also by conservative Russophiles like Kania and millions of normal Poles/Polesses who suffer from Polish victim mentality syndrome. It means they only remember crimes and wrongdoing against the Polish nation by others, while at the same time they refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for Polish crimes. on others
Aren`t such Poles/ Polesses amaSSing???