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Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians?



Grzegorz_ 52 | 6,190    
9 Feb 2008  #91

UPA, but you were asking for It... Go somewhere else If you want to lick Gerries ass.


NormalRussian - | 16    
9 Feb 2008  #92

Half of Ukraine kis*s our as*s. We know it is fear. More and more western countries think, Ukrianians are such a divided nation, maybe we shouldnt angry Russia :)

Learn Russian :) we are coming. Sory we will turn off gas and you will vote on prorussian politicians and will come to us and beg to be part of our country.
southern 76 | 7,116    
9 Feb 2008  #93

What a mess.NormalRussian are you really Russian or a provocateur?
miranda    
9 Feb 2008  #94

UPA, but you were asking for It... Go somewhere else If you want to lick Gerries ass.

I wasn't, I don't dislike them. Normal attact me because he has something against Ukrainians which is not the topic of this thread. I wonder how he knows about my Polish citizenship. He must have read my threads.
NormalRussian - | 16    
9 Feb 2008  #95

I am Russian, and I tell things Russians know, Germans know, Poles know. Corect me in points I am wrong. About Germans serving us in EU, about Ukrianians killing Poles in WWII, about operation "wisla", about German companies we bought.
miranda    
9 Feb 2008  #96

Corect me in points I am wrong.

your are right. I am going to other threads because you are really boring me now. Learn some Ukrainian, it migh come handy in the future.
z_darius 14 | 3,975    
9 Feb 2008  #97

I didn't forget, but I am interested what is happening now vs what has happened before.

That's not what you wrote.
NormalRussian - | 16    
9 Feb 2008  #98

Poles like to talk about Katyń. They don't talk about hundrets thousends Poles killed by Ukrianians.
z_darius 14 | 3,975    
9 Feb 2008  #99

Incorrect.

Poles make no secrets of that. They even talk about millions of Ukrainians killed by Russian policies. In short, Poles are very well aware of Ukrainian history.
miranda    
9 Feb 2008  #100

They don't talk about hundrets thousends Poles killed by Ukrianians.

Ukrainians should talk about the famine caused by Stalin in 1933-34 where approx up to 6 million people starved to death. Did you know about this particular genocide?
NormalRussian - | 16    
9 Feb 2008  #101

It is polishforums.com . not Ukrianinan. and Ukrainians were killing Poles with Tatars, with Austrians, with Germans, with Russians. at the end always were punished.
miranda    
9 Feb 2008  #102

I know, but YOU are the one who started the Ukrainin topic, NOT ME, so what are you crying about? There is a Polish - Ukrainian thread, so go there and cry your Russian hart out:)

he, he.......you are really annoying.
z_darius 14 | 3,975    
9 Feb 2008  #103

It is polishforums.com . not Ukrianinan.

You were the frst to mention the word Ukrainian in this thread. If you write something, especially a lie or half-truths, expect responses.

dear Poles do you remember WWII and Ukrianians serving Germans... we punished them :) ?

Did you also punish yourself for Russian co-operation with the Nazis and for Soviet attack on Poland, and for plans to exterminate the Polish nation in co-operation with krauts?
Filios1 8 | 1,336    
9 Feb 2008  #104

As much as NormalRussian is coming off as a provocator, I have to agree with what he is saying with the Ukrainians. It is FACT, that they served in special SS units and stabbed Poles in the back, murdered, pillaged, raped, the Poles living in the East.

Ukrainians have never been "perfect" example of a friendly Slavic country to Poles. Poles have always had to deal with these barbarian Kossaks. That will never change.

However, NormalRussian, when you said that Poles concentrate on Katyn rather than Ukrainian SS units, you are wrong. This is well known, and both issues have been discussed. Russians were in fact, a lot worse than Ukrainians with their peace treaty with Hitler in 39' to eat up the rest of Poland in the east.
TRAISKIRCHEN - | 23    
9 Feb 2008  #105

Asking who you hate more, Germans or Russians is like asking what you like more, headache or toothache. The answer is “none”. Both these powers killed millions poles and would not hesitate to occupy Poland again under right circumstances. There is no doubts in my mind that WWII was not the last military conflict in that part of the world. Sooner or later the borders will be rewritten again. What Poland should do? Seek a partner with the similar history, similar size, and the similar suffering from German or Russian occupations. This country is Ukraine. Poland should help Ukraine to get to NATO and become economically stronger. After that Poland and Ukraine should develop nuclear weapons. Most of the military industry of the former Soviet Union was located in Ukraine, and it would not be a big deal for Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons again.
celinski 31 | 1,260    
9 Feb 2008  #106

half of Ukriane is Russian

1/2 are Polish.

Whom do the Polish people hate more: Germans or Russians?

I don't like the word "hate" I think respect is better. As I see it, Germany did a lot of harm to Poland and did not deny or try to blame Russia. On the other hand Russia continues to pour salt on open wounds. I do not respect Russia and feel they are heartless.

So if we are using "respect", I have no respect for Russia at this point in time.

As for Ukraine???

GENOCIDE COMMITTED BY UKRAINIAN NATIONALISTS
ON THE POLISH POPULATION OF VOLHYNIA
DURING WORLD WAR II (1939-1945)

kresy.pl/wolyn/english.htm
Filios1 8 | 1,336    
9 Feb 2008  #107

This country is Ukraine.

No, my friend. You are very badly mistaken. Ukrainians are not Polands friend.
z_darius 14 | 3,975    
9 Feb 2008  #108

Ukrainians have never been "perfect" example of a friendly Slavic country to Poles. Poles have always had to deal with these barbarian Kossaks. That will never change.

Don't forget that those "barbarian Kossaks" were Ukrainian equivalents of Polish freedom fighters in 1831 and 1863. Poland occupied Ukrainian lands. This is not a popular topic in Poland but the fact remains that Poles were the occupying country.
Filios1 8 | 1,336    
9 Feb 2008  #109

popular topic in Poland but the fact remains that Poles were the occupying country.

No my friend. That land was Polish by nature, Polish by agreement. The savages that lived there didn't know when they were conquered. Poland was doing all of them a favour by spreading their civilized ways to these people.

Ukrainian equivalents of Polish freedom fighters in 1831 and 1863.

Do not offend the Polish freedome fighters by comparing them to the brutal savages who raped and murdered anything in their path to get their way!
z_darius 14 | 3,975    
9 Feb 2008  #110

No my friend.

I'm not your friend.

The savages that lived there didn't know when they were conquered. Poland was doing all of them a favour by spreading their civilized ways to these people.

This sounds very similar to WW2 Nazi propaganda against Poland.
miranda    
9 Feb 2008  #112

1/2 are Polish.

so according to you there are no Ukrainians. ha, ha - so who am I ??? Marsian?

Ukrainians are not Polands friend

but Poles want to be Ukrainin friends for obvious reasons, Russia is one of them.
TRAISKIRCHEN - | 23    
9 Feb 2008  #113

No my friend. That land was Polish by nature, Polish by agreement. The savages that lived there didn't know when they were conquered. Poland was doing all of them a favour by spreading their civilized ways to these people.

Using this argument, Germans should occupy western part of Poland to "spread civilized way" of building better roads.
Filios1 8 | 1,336    
9 Feb 2008  #114

No, simply because that land was never German. It was through history, Polish. Ukrainian lands on the other hand, were Polish. The people there were a hybrid of Poles and Russians who interbred. The end result was quite a lot of barbarians who respect nothing, and nobody, except blood.
celinski 31 | 1,260    
9 Feb 2008  #115

so according to you there are no Ukrainians. ha, ha - so who am I ??? Marsian?

Lets see if you were married to a Polish you had to kill your spouse and offspring.

but Poles want to be Ukrainin friends for obvious reasons, Russia is one of them.

Poland wants friendship due to blood ties also.
z_darius 14 | 3,975    
9 Feb 2008  #116

o, simply because that land was never German.

That's a lie.
Much of this land was German. Szczecin, for one, was never Polish. Ziemia Lubuska was sold to Germans, it was a financial transaction.

The people there were a hybrid of Poles and Russians who interbred. The end result was quite a lot of barbarians who respect nothing, and nobody, except blood.

You are one sick man. I wonder whether you are a result of interbreeding between Gestapo and KGB.
TRAISKIRCHEN - | 23    
9 Feb 2008  #117

No, simply because that land was never German. It was through history, Polish. Ukrainian lands on the other hand, were Polish.

So, how far back you want to go to claim "your" land. Sixty years, one hundred years, or one thousand years?
Filios1 8 | 1,336    
9 Feb 2008  #118

You are one sick man.

No, you are the sick man, for not seeing the light of truth. We are talking about Ukrainians, the same people who found any possible way to kill their Polish friends from the beginning of their being. They were never happy with Poles being there, and their barbaric tendencies always drove them to do what they did best. That is to murder.

Polish hussars should have driven them deeper into Russia when they had the chance.. we would now not be facing this challenge. They are only a stumbling block in our negotiations with Russia.

I wonder whether you are a result of interbreeding between Gestapo and KGB.

You laugh. But indeed I am not fully Polish, but I at least I am a true Pole, whilst the rest of you are nothing but "moderators"
Grzegorz_ 52 | 6,190    
9 Feb 2008  #119

Szczecin, for one, was never Polish.

Not true. Gerries stole all that land. Even current east Germany.
TRAISKIRCHEN - | 23    
9 Feb 2008  #120

No, you are the sick man, for not seeing the light of truth. We are talking about Ukrainians, the same people who found any possible way to kill their Polish friends from the beginning of their being. They were never happy with Poles being there, and their barbaric tendencies always drove them to do what they did best. That is to murder.
Polish hussars should have driven them deeper into Russia when they had the chance.. we would now not be facing this challenge. They are only a stumbling block in our negotiations with Russia.

Filios1,
Where your hatred towards Ukrainians is coming from? Yes, there were fights between Ukrainians an Poles in the past, but Ukrainians, as opposed to Germans and Russians, never wanted to occupy and destroy Poland. All they wanted was to have an independent country. Can you blame them for that. What nation does not want to be independent?




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