Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression?

Why such hostility against Jews, Novi?

I can't understand his hatred .....he makes me ashamed to be Polish...

you misread what he wrote. Is English you guys' second language? He was talking about Germans not Jews.

Correction: My personal regret is that the Americans and the Soviets killed so few Germans in the process.
I never meant Jews. I apologize for causing this unintended misunderstanding.


Thanks, Strzelec.

BTW, my best friend and my first love were both Jewish.

Error duly acknowleged and apology on my end hopefully accepted. In future though, kindly refer in said context to "Germans" as "Nazis", since obviously not all Germans were Nazis, or even Nazi leaning. Also, Germany's considered themselves kaisertreu and German to the core!

Less about reality, more about trying to trash a thread.

Germany's Jews felt themselves German.

I will never do that. Nazis were a political party and only part of Germany. The responsibility for the war rests with the entire country - every soldier, bomb factory worker, and every engineer who designed gas chambers and other killing machines. I will never forget the pictures of smiling and cheering throngs celebrating Hitler's conquests. Using "Nazis" in lieu of "Germany" is just another modern-day attempt at a whitewash.

I can almost hear it: It wasn't us, it was those bad Nazis. No, it was you. All of you.


No. This tread is accusatory. I have a moral right to represent the accused.

Not ALL Germans were Nazis any more than ALL Poles are were anti-Semites or ALL US Southern Anglos are born-again Klanies and similar generalizations!

OK, genius...

Who attacked Poland? Who attacked the USSR? Who annexed Austria? Who did the Brits declare war on? Who declared war on the US? Who signed unconditional surrender?

Germany or Nazis?

Yes. Generalisation doesn't help

Nobody gave a rat's ass about specifics when they were firebombing the hell out of Dresden. They killed as many Germans as they could without distinction as to party affiliation, age, sex, and other attributes or worldviews.

The crews and the bombs they dropped GENERALIZED. The US did the same in Hiroshima and Nagasaki - generalized: if it's a Jap, it's gonna die.

Very off topic.

Nothing to do with state censorship or the current lawsuits at all.

Erm....Hitler was an Austrian....many of the worst Nazis had been Austrians...and Beethoven was a German, not an Austrian....its abit complicated with the Schluchtenscheißer and us...

So it was the Austrians fault now.

Definitely...

It all started with WWI...a war Germany only got into to defend the treaty with Austria....the rise of the austrian Hitler and WWII was a direct consequence.

Now see what that got us!

Oh and about the "annexation":

encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/austria

I think the austrian/german word "Anschluss" hits it better than the somewhat dubious sounding english "annexation"....

To be honest this is all news to me interesting, its something I need to look into thanks.

Understandable...the Austrians had just alot better PR after WWII...they made themselves the first "victim", Hitler a German and Beethoven an Austrian...its an old joke here! :)

@A cheering crowd greets Adolf Hitler as he enters Vienna.

Look at all the hysteric girls storming the police cordon - one might think it was The Beatles coming to the city. *rolls eyes*

I think it was more a kind of a bender....the same as in Germany...the Sudetenland...the Saarland before....like drunks.

...and what a hangover followed.

A warning against politicians with promises if there ever was one!

Very true.

Again, you are yet to provide any accounts of Jews publicly demonstrating against Nazi Germany's invasion of Poland or any account of them risking their own life and limb to save a Polish life.

....in 1939??? Seriously?

Where should the few survivors had done that? In the camps?

Many german Jews where deported to Poland in the years before. They then where gathered in the Ghettoes, you know the rest....

The US TV series "Holocaust" centers around such a family from Berlin with polish/jewish roots....worth watching!

Don't be silly. Tiny Austria wouldn't have been able to start a war on this scale.

There began to emerge a signifacant Nazi movement in the US at the time. Luckily, it was nipped in the bud. Britain's and France's policy of appeasement had its share as well. There were quite a few Nazi sympathizers in the British rotal family too..

Undoubtedly the German nation had been bemused by several Nazi tricks which found a perfect background in the harsh living conditions caused by the contributions imposed on Germany by the winning nations. And not the least, let's not forget the US with its age of speculation in the 1920s which had led to the crisis of the 1930s.

So stop being silly, everyone, by blaming poor Austria for all this.

On July 28, 1914, one month to the day after Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife were killed by a Serbian nationalist in Sarajevo, Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia, effectively beginning the First World War.

history.com/this-day-in-history/austria-hungary-declares-war-on-serbia


I blame the Austrians for every of my warts...them and the Frenchies!

Thomas Jefferson wrote centuries before that 'whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.'


Polish resistance fighter Witold Pilecki voluntarily went to Auschwitz to start a resistance and to warn the world about your Nazi Germany's crimes against humanity. He was later arrested and executed by the communists after the war.

Polish resistance fighter Jan Karski also exhibited selfless bravery and sacrifice and made several dangerous courier trips (including being arrested and tortured by your Gestapo) in order to warn the West of your Nazi Germany's crimes against humanity.

So, talk to me again about Jewish privilege in refusing to help Poles.

So you've now introduced the WW I for blaming Serbia for its outbreak?

First, Austria to be blamed for WW II and then Serbia to be blamed for WW I.

It seems that Germany had been towed away to the North Pole in the years 1914-1945 in order to safely wait the turbulent times out.

What privilege!

There had been just not many Jews left to stage a pro-Poland demonstration back in Berlin 1939....there hadn't been any pro-jewish demonstration in Warsaw either during the years before I guess?


Definitely! As WWII was a continuation of WWI....Hitler got thirsty for revenge during the Treaty of Versailles!

Nothing of that would had happened without Austria declaring war..

Now that you are here, maybe you will be more successful in explaining how the Soviet feathers and diplomacy worked for them in Stalingrad, Kursk, and Berlin. The OP seems to have problems understanding how hugely effective those were.

....I have to admit I didn't read everything...My trigger word was actually "annexion" in the same sentence with "Austria"...that got me out of my daily slumber like a cat smelling catnip! :)