Famous Russian Poles

Well...I didn't ask for your approval...at least we had someone up there, now where is the polish space traveller?
Come to think of other Germans made it possible for the Amis to reach the moon!
Yes...we German can do it either in the west or in the east..:)

When you want to ignore the long list and people like von Ardenne, the Charitè, the Carl-Zeiss-Jena optics etc.etc.etc. I can't hinder you.

And Poles may be ruled by Prussians and Austrians and Russians for awhile but that shouldn't have stolen their brains, right? That is a poor excuse!

Quite to the contrary, a Pole could have achieved the same as a German in Prussia...Prussia never excluded someone if they seem to be an asset! They even invited the french Hugenots and the Jews to come and to work!

(And Austria was even more a multi-kulti empire than Prussia was...)

@Sasha
Stop be sucha anti-semit, just live with it that Slavs are so mixed with the jews. I bet your family has a little bit jewish blood in it aswell. I swallowed the truth about jews a long time ago and i dont have any problem to share my history with the jews.

What's so bad about the jews? they helped us build up our economy and made a great impact on our culture. It is because of us ( slavs ) that the Jews dont consider them selfs as a part of our family. we hated them, turned them in to the nazis, burned them alive, stole their money etc etc etc. This is something we have to live with, but also something we should learn from. And yes we should seek for their forgivness for what we have done to them and invite them back to our family where they belong.

ROFL! :)

No, my poor, deranged Pussy....that's a reality check for you (compared to your fever fantasies).

Now stop your tantrum because the world doesn't care for your "opinion" and drink another one! :)


Come back when you are sober again....

- At present I read Pushkin in an English translation, but have also a Polish translation of 'Pikovaya dama' and 'Kapitanskaya dotshka.' As far as I know, all of Pushkin's poetry and prose has been translated into Polish. Especially notable are Julian Tuwim's masterly translations. Tuwim is a great Polish poet.

I've heard of Tuwim, Puzzler. Why is he so great?

In your narrow minded way of thinking you even don't try to collect some information for the discussion.

Only we don't consider the Russian space travelling to be "Polish" achievement.
You obviously DO lol.

As for the rest of your posting...
Yep.
With closed universities, arrested or killed on purpose scientists we could run some great R&D project in our kitchens and coal cellars.

Well...last time I looked Sigmund Jähn was neither a Pole nor a Russian so I would count him for Germany!

It was german brilliance and german engineering which brought the american astronauts to the moon...does that mean the honor belongs in truth to Germany and not to the United States???


Oh pleeeeaaaase, cut the drama!
Yes I know the Poles have a monopol for suffering, yes...they talk about it often and loudly but you wouldn't exist anymore when everybody would had only be out for sending Poles to Sibiria or arresting or killing them. Get real!

East Germans were occupied for decades too and they still managed quite well.
(And yes people got arrested and killed too...)

- On what basis would you assert that I am in a tantrum? Prove it.

Hehe, your world is coming to an end, kraut; my world only begins.
:)

Do I say everybody ?
Germans and Russians only.

they still managed quite well[i][/i]
I've been to the Zone many times before and after the Anschluss.
Have seen the ruins of your Wirtschaftswunder lol.

Well, those that got out probably did....

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Says who? A Pole??? I'm shaking in my boots!

- He is a very good, in fact great, poet. I'll try to translate a piece by him and post here.
:)

That'd be nice, just to see how great he really is :)

Compared to Poland you must have felt quite intimidated...but then....compared to Poland it isn't very hard! :)
After the war you were given the most fertile land, the granary of whole Germany, wonderful old towns and the whole silesian industry - still no polish Wirtschaftswunder.

(Wait...how could I forget...again the bad Russians fault!)
I wonder how much the EU (Germany mostly) will have to pour now into the polish hole till something starts to happen....(And who else will be blamed this time for every polish wart...let me guess....the Germans! No...the Russians...or both again???)

- Hehe, it may happen you'll be begging to be let into Poland, as it used to be with you, krauts, in the past. Do you think your Getohe, Shcllire and Beetvhone will help you then? Better attempt to learn some Polish,and without the thick stupid hunnish accent.

:)

How much vodka did you have already Pussy?

- Do you suggest the quoted passage from my post is an indication of my having had lots of vodka? If yes, explain why.
:)

Even that is not true as compared to the pre-war East-Poland.
Then once again - I was shocked with the disastrous shapeof the East-German economy and infrastructure visiting it after the Wall had fallen.
We all (including the BRD public opinion) were fooled by commie propaganda and believed it MUST look better.
It was by far worse than in Poland.

Am I? :) Probably you're right... depending on what we call anti-Semitism. I'm not at all concerned about the genetical question, all I care about at that point is the turn of mind. In general and in most of cases Jewish turn of mind is not close to me. I don't accept it for myself. Neither it's close for those who we call "Slavs".


No more or I would better say less than any other folk. :)


I can't exclude that. As soon as I take DNA-test I'll provide you with the more precise data. Honestly I don't care, because my way of thinking defines my nationality rather than anything else.


You're right about the impact on us. Finally neither me nor anybody else can say how well it was. One however can be said for sure: there's no other nation that has ever perfomed such a bloodshed for Slavs as they did in the past century. Unfortunatelly it arose in Russia... I'm not surely gonna shift all the blame to Jews. Russians shouldn't have been that stupid to give a power to bolsheviks.


Have you ever thought of why Jews are the most hated nation ever?
Have you ever thought of why there's no definition of "antislavism" despite the fact that antislavism ideed exists and thrives?
Why haven't you ever thought of word "anti-Semitism" itself which purposely perverted and inacurate? As we all know semits are the large group of folks speaking semitic languages including some north-african tribes. Why not call that anti-Zionism which would be much better or at lest anti-Jewishness?

They need you to feel constantly embarrassed always guilt about something you've never done... meanwhile thanks to them my grandparents dispossessed and millions of Russians, Poles, Ukranians, Belorussians, Germans, Tatars, Caucasians etc... were shot.

Don't take it as if I stay away of Jews. Some who were brought up not in Zionistic (Zionism=Jewish fascism FYI) traditions are my friends. I'm open to them, but they're not always open to "goys"...

I just find it amusing. You put an ideological notion like communism into a national framework where corruption rules the roost. Communism has many preconditions to operate effectively/for its successful operation. It was destined to failure from the outset.

Rule 1: Question propaganda with the sternest tests and most critical eye.

So it wasn't so bad then after all? God Borrka you try everything...
At least bring some stats for your posts!

- Preferably from your 'entry' in 'Wiki,' eh, dumb animal?
:)

Wiki would be a start Pussy because I would really like to learn more about the alleged higher living standard of Poland compared to the GDR.

I mean forget about that half of middle german industry and farming soil was stolen by Poland, that the other half was not reachable because of the wall, also forget that the Sovietunion instead to pour money in as the western powers did into western Germany they still demanded reparations and took what they could get - even if you forget about it all, it would be still news to me that Poland would lead us in any way!

(Maybe because we didn't whine all the time, blaming others but rather rolled up the sleeves and got to work?)

Moderator comment: Please keep the name calling within the bounds of normal conversation.
This also applies to puzzler.
Thank you.

- Well, no offense, but who really gives fuk about what you would like? Quote from your own 'entries' in 'Wiki' yourself, scum.
:)

Have not enough time to look for some old commie figures.
If they are at least close to be true.
My impression of that time is what counts today.
I have absolutely no reason to present some negative picture of the GDR.
Prove me wrong if you can.

Well...I found some interesting articles to help you out:

East Germany: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Democratic_Republic#Economy


Poland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Poland#Late_years


But you say Poland was better off than the GDR...yeah...sure...
West-Germany was the best in the West - and East Germany was the best in the East...see a pattern here?

Exactly your level of technical skills.
Your opinion on pre 1989 Poland ... just a piece of commie propaganda from the DDR-times.
Are you collecting the old stuff from Honnie ?

But enlighten me pls:
half of middle german industry and farming soil was stolen by Poland
What do you mean with East-Germany then ?
Brest'-Litovsk ?

BTW. Sometimes I wonder would you have guts to post something like that on any board in Germany ?
My guess is NO!

You know Borrka you are awfully quick denigrating other peoples achievements be it space travel or economical success as exports shows...you know...EXPORTS....selling stuff other people like to have actually pay money for...(aside from unemployed plumbers swarming the continent that is).

East Germans at least DID something with the little they had (without sitting all the time whining and blaming in the corner).
Such criticism sounds quite funny coming from a Pole who managed exactly NOTHING, sorry!


Why should I? There aren't Pussies, Crows or Borrka's to find to answer their brain dead allegations!

was kept at an higher level for the purpose of showing the west, that communism does work.
My point to the discussion:
The Stasi, the devotion of the people for the system was only surpassed by early soviet one, where sons betrayed their fathers. This shows very clear how Germans work, how easily they are manipalated. While beeing the prussian Germans and models for the nazis a decade earlier, they addapted like a flag does to the wind.

Poles instead allways had their own head, maybe a little stubborn, as we are, but without us, you BwB would live in a polarized NWO-anti-utopia up to now.

You should thank us. For that and for liberating your country from fascism as you call it ;)

You liberated us from farm and house! THANK YOU!


Yes exactly....revolutions aren't our thing...we really prefer to work hard!
You should try it...