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Abuse in relationships (my first Polish girlfriend)


johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #91
Thank you so much.
It is so nice to see a real Polish Woman make a post.
I have never seen this type of aggressive behavior either accept in Russian Girls.
I have seen other types of bad behavior, but not once this violent stuff.
jane73 - | 3  
16 Aug 2009 /  #92
u r welcome , just saying what thinking. anyway, at those days everything turns upside down. People are looking for any benefits to get from other people, being violent to each other. i been brought up with respecting other people, no matter who they are or where they are from. my ex husband was foreigner with different background, culture and religion. i believe with everything we can cope when its love and respect. when its gone, nothing going to work. when someone is violent to Us, means doesnt respect Us or need a prof.help. if u can`t help or don`t want, just get rid of it...

i do remember one holiday,when lived in Poland went seaside with a few couples .one evening was a witness of not nice situation, when man was abusive and violent with his gf, i couldnt stand without doing anything so bravely stand by her and had a words with her mad partner.he was so agressive and asked me if i could talk to him on the side, not in front of her.(not sure y i done that and wasn`t scared of him or the situation and problkem was more important to me), we spoke about 2hrs, he calmed down in seconds and listened his story about their relationship.he blamed her that she is pushing him to behave like that (wasn`t agree with it), he said he is going to proof, so he did. all of us spent togehter most of days coz was holiday, he didn`t pick up her fight and tried be very quiet as he promised me to be. she tried to provoke him to have a fight, but he didn`t .After coupke of days she got furious ending up with tears. we all asked her what`s wrong, she said her bf doesn`t love her anymore coz he stopped be violent with her. i was so shocked, that ppl might think that way. its a true, we all are different and looking for something different, but never we should be abusive for others, especially for ppl we love.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
16 Aug 2009 /  #93
she tried to provoke him to have a fight, but he didn`t .After coupke of days she got furious ending up with tears. we all asked her what`s wrong, she said her bf doesn`t love her anymore coz he stopped be violent with her

Yet, in the U.S. if he did strike her she would immediately be claimed as a "battered woman" by the viral anti-male feminists who run various political organizations including abuse shelters. Conversely, if she hit him it would rarely be reported. That is why objective organizations like the "feibert" one which is independent tell the real story; the full story about domestic violence.

Too many women (and politicians) only want to hear one side of this as is evidenced by what goes out in the news media. Feminists actually fear 'real equality' otherwise they'd demand it in full and not in their pick-and-choose methodology.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
16 Aug 2009 /  #94
Feminists

Malist, Feminist, Terrorist... too many ist we have in this battered world
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
16 Aug 2009 /  #95
You are right there are too many 'ists'. I do have one correction. While there are hundreds of feminist organizaions (usually funded by tax dollars in whole or in large part); there are really virtually no so-called "Malist" ones as you put it. It's really been a one-way show and it's purpose is to portray men as perpetrators and women as victims. Another way to put it is: men are bad, women are good. Unfortunately, the general media (including advertising) has done just that.
Alx123 - | 180  
16 Aug 2009 /  #96
Isn't the word 'abuse' a bit strong? I'd just call it bad attitude/personality. Abuse implies you act like a p*ssy and let the woman continue to get away with it instead of either pulling her in line or getting rid of her for good. Unless, of course, such behaviour turns you on ;)
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
16 Aug 2009 /  #97
men are bad, women are good.

The unfortunate part is that some women think that to be equal they must convert to ...: men are bad, women are bad aswell!

Its just... very unhealthy. See my Yoga page. It works for my mom, me ...many family friends, friends and neighbours. And I find fans here in Poland of this excerise from time to time. It works to cool the head aswell.
jane73 - | 3  
17 Aug 2009 /  #98
if U mean real Yoga i am agree with that. it opens other senses and calming down ... here in London very popular. if i noticed right U live in my hometown , Lodz, so would be glad if U will convince more ppl there to practice Yoga.....
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
17 Aug 2009 /  #99
Zimmy something tells me you write goth poetry and post pictures on dating portals.

Abuse implies you act like a p*ssy and let the woman continue to get away

Amen, a guy who fails to walk away at a certain point lacks in the balls department, it takes nuts to leave too.
LukeXX 4 | 75  
17 Aug 2009 /  #100
Amen, a guy who fails to walk away at a certain point lacks in the balls department, it takes nuts to leave too.

Well, I'd say that most times a girl is testing you, and she expects a reaction of some sort.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
17 Aug 2009 /  #101
Zimmy something tells me you write goth poetry and post pictures on dating portals.

I don't know about your "something"; I do know that I don't do dating portals (ugh) and my attempts at poetry have been mediocre at best (and I'm too old for the goth nonsense).

The example about the 'come-on' woman is true. Perhaps you haven't experienced such advances?

a guy who fails to walk away at a certain point lacks in the balls department

In our current western culture a man can walk away (usually recommended) and still get in trouble if a woman files a false accusation. That's the point!

most times a girl is testing you, and she expects a reaction of some sort.

Agreed; women constantly test men. Unfortunately, too many are such manginas.
southern 75 | 7,096  
17 Aug 2009 /  #102
Women always want double standards.For example they say:''I don't forgive lying when done by men''.So they justify women lying but they do not accept it from men because men have to be men.

Example:A russian girl asking me:''How many girlfinds have you had?''I answer and then I ask:''how many boyfriends have you had?''She:''I do not reveal it.This is private information.How can you dare to ask sth like that?''

The same with abuse.It is totally justified when done by women,completely wrong when done by men.Because a woman is supposed to always have a strong reason and is more emotional and deserves to be protected etc.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
18 Aug 2009 /  #103
U will convince more ppl there to practice Yoga.....

Actually people get convinced themselves after they try some of the steps and they work. I haven't found anyone who tried and didn't work. I myself tried a few and they worked. Which of course turned me into a fan.

Men who take part in abuse (or women) usually suffer from internal tension, or sometimes they also suffer from some kind of hidden physical restlessness. In such cases also, Yoga can work.

See the page about yoga in Poland.
southern 75 | 7,096  
18 Aug 2009 /  #104
usually suffer from internal tension, or sometimes they also suffer from some kind of hidden physical restlessness. In such cases also, Yoga can work.

Masturbation is better.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
18 Aug 2009 /  #105
I dont think so. It only moves you away from one problem and into another.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
18 Aug 2009 /  #106
Well, I'd say that most times a girl is testing you, and she expects a reaction of some sort.

If a girl is testing me by trying to kick my ass then she's messed up to begin with.

In our current western culture a man can walk away (usually recommended) and still get in trouble if a woman files a false accusation. That's the point!

So? Its still better than sticking in such a situation for years and then writing an article on how its terrible to become your own wifes b*tch.

The crux of the issue is that such guys lack the spine to simply leave, they prefer known territory even if it means being beaten by a woman.

The example about the 'come-on' woman is true. Perhaps you haven't experienced such advances?

God no, i'm fat and ugly and you're still using dating portals.

Women always want double standards

Everyone wants double standards.

@Oh and Zimmy you seem to try and strike a point that its ok to kick a womans arse if she starts it, i disagree, women are weaker (physically) and require a gentle approach, if a problem cannot be resolved by dialogue and/or therapy its just time to take a hike.
southern 75 | 7,096  
18 Aug 2009 /  #107
Everyone wants double standards.

Imposing double standards when the other does the same is called communism.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
18 Aug 2009 /  #108
God no, i'm fat and ugly

Hey, I know a woman who is a "fat and ugly" freak. She's "fat and ugly" too; maybe the two of you can...................(?)

you're still using dating portals.

Now you know how to get my goat; the answer is NEVER!

Zimmy you seem to try and strike a point that its ok to kick a womans arse if she starts it,

Never said that; you are projecting. Now, if a woman hits you then it is ok to defend yourself and attempt minimal force such as grabbing her flailing arms for instance. If absolutely necessary then yes, a good swift smack might be needed.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
19 Aug 2009 /  #109
If absolutely necessary then yes, a good swift smack might be needed.

What the feck does absolutely neccesary mean? I have nothing against kicking someones ass if he can remotely defend himself, for those physically weaker you're left with other solutions, if you allow a situation to develop to a point where its "absolutely neccesary to give her a good swift smack" then you're a weakling cvnt who apparently lacks the character to solve it any other way including leaving.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
19 Aug 2009 /  #110
Bravo, couldnt have said it better myself Sok! Good man, Id happily buy you a pint!
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
19 Aug 2009 /  #111
Only if you promise not be beat me up :)
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
19 Aug 2009 /  #112
What the feck does absolutely neccesary mean?

Tell me you're not that stupid. Let's say she's coming at you with a bat, or a gun, or a knife, or a (fill in the blank).

Hope that helps Pilgrim.

if you allow a situation to develop to a point where its "absolutely neccesary to give her a good swift smack"

You're still stuck in your small box. I've previously explained that in some situations, there is no such thing as "allow" with women. They'll do something whether you want them to or not. It's not 1955 anymore.

then you're a weakling cvnt who apparently lacks the character to solve it any other way including leaving.

You wouldn't say that to my face (without trembling). As to character, the next time a woman hits you with some object, lets say she pokes your eye out, just tell her you're leaving because you have more character than she does.

couldnt have said it better myself Sok!

Yes, you've been quite silent. Perhaps you've been knawing on a Porterhous steak?
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
19 Aug 2009 /  #113
What the feck does absolutely neccesary mean? I have nothing against kicking someones ass if he can remotely defend himself, for those physically weaker you're left with other solutions, if you allow a situation to develop to a point where its "absolutely neccesary to give her a good swift smack" then you're a weakling cvnt who apparently lacks the character to solve it any other way including leaving.

What a load of bullsh*t! If you say that you would never use violence against a female, no matter what kind of situ├Ątion it is, you are wrong. You will do it, I promise you. It's an evolutionary fact. You'd beat the sh*t out of the amphetamine psycho how is going to cut your throat, If you know it's your only chance to survive. If you say something else you don't know what you're talking about.
dnz 17 | 710  
19 Aug 2009 /  #114
You should never hit a female end of,

as for kicking the **** out of psychos do it its funny :) well it is if you win.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
19 Aug 2009 /  #115
Only if you promise not be beat me up :)

Does a slap on the ass count as beating you up? ;0)

You should never hit a female end of,

Ignore Zimmy he was the one fantasising about being hit on (not literally of course) by a hot chick, of course he rebuked her advances and apparently she became aggressive! Where do these people come from? Is there a hospital somewhere that allows mental patients to have internet access?
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
19 Aug 2009 /  #116
SzwedwPolsce

Sokrates has too much 'character' to save his life when a female attacks him. He's quite the gentleman.

Ignore Zimmy he was the one fantasising

Is there no end to your envy?

Is there a hospital somewhere that allows mental patients to have internet access?

Yes, I believe it's in England and it is known for its 12-step Envy Annonymous programs.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
19 Aug 2009 /  #117
If you say that you would never use violence against a female, no matter what kind of situ├Ątion it is,

No, if she ran towards me with a knife or tried to mug me in a dark alley i'd probably get medieval but we're talking relationships here and yes you should never use violence in relationships, some situations take character not fists.

If you know it's your only chance to survive.

Calm down, Zimmy argued that we should discipline our women by an occasional gentle kick to the face if they get physical not that we shouldnt defend our lives if a local crackpot comes at us with a chainsaw, its obvious.

Tell me you're not that stupid. Let's say she's coming at you with a bat, or a gun, or a knife

Zimmy dont fvck the cat by the tail, you've been arguing that we should discipline women if they get uppity and suddenly it changes into Jenny the Jigsaw assaulting a man with a rusty nailbat.

You wouldn't say that to my face (without trembling).

Seriously man ... Between your milf fantasies and this i'm starting to feel sorry.

As to character, the next time a woman hits you with some object, lets say she pokes your eye out, just tell her you're leaving because you have more character than she does.

You know the way you're writing i'm wondering how did i even survive my dating years, its been over a dozen girls and somehow i managed not to end up a bloodied corpse.

Does a slap on the ass count as beating you up? ;0)

According to Zimmy thats practically murder!
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
19 Aug 2009 /  #118
Zimmy dont fvck the cat by the tail, you've been arguing that we should discipline women if they get uppity and suddenly it changes into Jenny the Jigsaw assaulting a man with a rusty nailbat.

Having had a very bad day (we've had redundancies :0( at work ) That really really really did make make laugh!! Seriously!

Is there no end to your envy?

I think you have penis envy, because you aparently dont have any balls!
ZIMMY 6 | 1,602  
19 Aug 2009 /  #119
Zimmy dont fvck the cat by the tail, you've been arguing that we should discipline women if they get uppity and suddenly it changes into Jenny the Jigsaw assaulting a man with a rusty nailbat.

Now, now, now, you are attempting to somersault from fact, and thus have landed on your buttocks. Here is what I stated; "if a woman hits you then it is ok to defend yourself and attempt minimal force such as grabbing her flailing arms for instance. If absolutely necessary then yes, a good swift smack might be needed."

I will say this though; if a wacko woman smacks me hard on my face then I would likely smack her right back. I believe in teaching women real equality.

Does a slap on the ass count as beating you up? ;0)
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According to Zimmy thats practically murder!

According to you thats foreplay.

I think you have penis envy, because you aparently dont have any balls!

In another thread I discussed 'women's shaming tactics' and listed a batch that women use. Examples include; "you're gay"; "you hate women"; you have a small ....."; etc.

As a woman, it is too bad that you are still stuck with your attempts at 'shaming' and sexism. It belittles only you and your inability to debate.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
19 Aug 2009 /  #120
As a woman, it is too bad that you are still stuck with your attempts at 'shaming' and sexism. It belittles only you and your inability to debate.

Really?

In another thread I discussed 'women's shaming tactics' and listed a batch that women use. Examples include; "you're gay"; "you hate women"; you have a small ....."; etc.

And your point is?

According to you thats foreplay.

It is, a tap on someones ass isnt grounds for charging them with assualt, or is it in your book?

If absolutely necessary then yes, a good swift smack might be needed."

Now that is assault, two wrongs dont make a right, you can walk away from some crazy woman, as pointed out by Sok, women are physically weaker than men or are you one of these midgets built like a ballet dancer? In which case, I'd pay good money to see you try and slap a woman that's gone all Mike Tyson on your ladyboy ass!

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