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If you were to compere Polish Unis and Unis/Colleges in your country...


OP zetigrek
7 Dec 2010 #61
they couldn't mask the reality that Scotland is a small country with far too many graduates

So you have also that problem in Scotland that there is to many people at colleges and too little on vocational courses? Shortage of common electricans but too many socjologists, does it sound familiar? ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
7 Dec 2010 #62
Yeah, I'd say so. You can do as well as you want at uni in terms of passing exams and essays but when that course ends.....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
7 Dec 2010 #63
So you have also that problem in Scotland that there is to many people at colleges and too little on vocational courses? Shortage of common electricans but too many socjologists, does it sound familiar? ;)

Same problem. Perhaps not so many sociologists, but more "media studies" graduates and so on.

Heck, you can even get a degree in "sound production" these days.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
7 Dec 2010 #64
Yeah, my dad interviewed sb with an HNC in shampooing from Aberdeen College. OK, shampooing a dog is a bit different but it's sth most people do every day or every other day. Tragic!

There is much redundant crap tbh. There should be a far greater element of tailoring a course to the needs of industry but many are behind in that regard.

Simply put, you need to target your future workplace and gear yourself up towards working there as best you can. Many elements of courses will not help you in that sense.
MrBubbles 10 | 614
12 Dec 2010 #65
Note that Polish IT specialists are highly valued everywhere. I know many people who graduated such faculty (at public unis, not private which sucks) and they work around the world. So if you don't know something stop talking bs.

Maybe, but considering the huge demand for IT specialists at the moment, the typically uncreative nature of the job (perfect for Polish degrees) and the fact that most of the graduates spend all their leisure time playing with computers, it's not surpising is it? That and they charge half the price of graduates from the UK
OP zetigrek
12 Dec 2010 #66
the typically uncreative nature of the job

are you sure that's it's uncreative? I think programme developement is creative...
MrBubbles 10 | 614
12 Dec 2010 #67
I think programme developement is creative...

You obviously have a lot to learn about IT jobs.
Rogalski 5 | 94
12 Dec 2010 #68
Speaking from the inside, Polish universities are left far too much to their own devices. Individual teachers can just about put what they like in their courses without any reference to a central syllabus. This does allow good lecturers to produce high quality courses but it also means that less good teachers can get away with mediocre teaching, as students will conform to whatever the teacher teaches, in order to pass the course. The Polish students I teach are highly motivated and diligent in the main. It's a shame that the system lets them down sometimes!
landora - | 199
12 Dec 2010 #69
Individual teachers can just about put what they like in their courses without any reference to a central syllabus.

This is very odd for me - I cannot work out why the programmes aren't validated in some way.
ItsAllAboutME 3 | 270
12 Dec 2010 #70
usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/09/21/worl ds-best-universities-top-400-.html

I searched for Poland in all the categories, including by subject and by region, and I couldn't find one Polish university.

On the other hand, the Financial Times listed Kozminski (?) University as #39 in European business schools. Haven't heard of that school.

rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankin gs-2010
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
12 Dec 2010 #71
I searched for Poland in all the categories, including by subject and by region, and I couldn't find one Polish university.

As far as I recall, there's not one public university in the top 500 in the world.

On the other hand, the Financial Times listed Kozminski (?) University as #39 in European business schools. Haven't heard of that school.

Yep, it's not a bad place. Well known as the place to go if you want to meet the movers and shakers in Poland.
ItsAllAboutME 3 | 270
12 Dec 2010 #72
As far as I recall, there's not one public university in the top 500 in the world.

that's not true. Michigan & CA-Berkeley are both public.
Pinching Pete - | 558
12 Dec 2010 #74
Not even, Krakow? I would think for the sciences they would make it.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
17 Dec 2010 #75
you can even get a degree in "sound production" these days.

What do you mean "even" ?!

It's pretty technical, scientific etc. I'm sure there are much more mickey mouse courses than that.

Ah just saw Seanus's example - that's more like it !

Not even, Krakow?

AFAIK the Jagellonian is the best regarded Polish university - but I think it's ranked at 300 odd in Europe.


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