If you were to compere Polish Unis and Unis/Colleges in your country...

So you have also that problem in Scotland that there is to many people at colleges and too little on vocational courses? Shortage of common electricans but too many socjologists, does it sound familiar? ;)

Yeah, I'd say so. You can do as well as you want at uni in terms of passing exams and essays but when that course ends.....

Same problem. Perhaps not so many sociologists, but more "media studies" graduates and so on.

Heck, you can even get a degree in "sound production" these days.

Yeah, my dad interviewed sb with an HNC in shampooing from Aberdeen College. OK, shampooing a dog is a bit different but it's sth most people do every day or every other day. Tragic!

There is much redundant crap tbh. There should be a far greater element of tailoring a course to the needs of industry but many are behind in that regard.

Simply put, you need to target your future workplace and gear yourself up towards working there as best you can. Many elements of courses will not help you in that sense.

Maybe, but considering the huge demand for IT specialists at the moment, the typically uncreative nature of the job (perfect for Polish degrees) and the fact that most of the graduates spend all their leisure time playing with computers, it's not surpising is it? That and they charge half the price of graduates from the UK

are you sure that's it's uncreative? I think programme developement is creative...

You obviously have a lot to learn about IT jobs.

Speaking from the inside, Polish universities are left far too much to their own devices. Individual teachers can just about put what they like in their courses without any reference to a central syllabus. This does allow good lecturers to produce high quality courses but it also means that less good teachers can get away with mediocre teaching, as students will conform to whatever the teacher teaches, in order to pass the course. The Polish students I teach are highly motivated and diligent in the main. It's a shame that the system lets them down sometimes!

This is very odd for me - I cannot work out why the programmes aren't validated in some way.

usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/09/21/worl ds-best-universities-top-400-.html

I searched for Poland in all the categories, including by subject and by region, and I couldn't find one Polish university.

On the other hand, the Financial Times listed Kozminski (?) University as #39 in European business schools. Haven't heard of that school.

rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankin gs-2010

As far as I recall, there's not one public university in the top 500 in the world.


Yep, it's not a bad place. Well known as the place to go if you want to meet the movers and shakers in Poland.

that's not true. Michigan & CA-Berkeley are both public.

Ahh, I meant Polish public university!

Not even, Krakow? I would think for the sciences they would make it.

What do you mean "even" ?!

It's pretty technical, scientific etc. I'm sure there are much more mickey mouse courses than that.

Ah just saw Seanus's example - that's more like it !


AFAIK the Jagellonian is the best regarded Polish university - but I think it's ranked at 300 odd in Europe.