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Polish graduate to stay in country & find a job?


jock3r37 2 | 11
27 May 2013 #1
Hi, guys. I am considering studying in Polish university but I am not sure whether I have any guarantee to settle in Poland after my graduation.

Question: Does graduation from Polish university entitle me to stay in Poland and find a job afterwards?

I don't want to go back home, I want to get some sort of a residence (permanent or temporary) in Republic of Poland and have a permanent job. Is that even possible? BTW, do Polish graduates have any advantages over other immigrants?

Thanks in advance.
OP jock3r37 2 | 11
27 May 2013 #3
I can't see the stupidity of my question. In some countries you can stay legally for a while to find a job after you graduated. So, I just wanted to know if Poland is one of those countries, that's all.
pam
27 May 2013 #4
BTW, do Polish graduates have any advantages over other immigrants?

They're native speakers for starters.
DominicB - | 2,706
27 May 2013 #5
@jock3r37: The most likely scenario is that you are NOT going to find work in Poland after you graduate, and you will NOT be able to get a residence permit. Make you plans based on that assumption, and you'll be safe. If you make them based on the assumption that you WILL get work and a residence permit, you are very likely to waste three or four valuable years of your life that you could have spent productively doing something more realistic.
OP jock3r37 2 | 11
28 May 2013 #6
Folks here on forum say that most English taught programs in Polish universities are not of high-quality. Well, at least they are recognized in EU and I cannot be rejected holding Polish diploma, right? I was planning to major in technical field and get first work experience in Poland right away, and then having some practical knowledge try to apply for a job in GB or Germany. Language is not a problem, but I have no idea what my chances of finding a job in Poland are and what salary I can expect to get with no prior work experience. And btw, are they willing to accept foreigners in the labor market?

I'm totally confused. Is it a good idea to graduate in Poland or I should consider another European country?
Thank you in advance.
mofo was gaged
28 May 2013 #7
I'm totally confused. Is it a good idea to graduate in Poland or I should consider another European country?

Whats wrong with your country? and which country do you come from?
DominicB - | 2,706
28 May 2013 #8
Folks here on forum say that most English taught programs in Polish universities are not of high-quality.

That's correct. Most of these programs are a joke and diplomas from them will not help much on the job market, in Poland, in the EU and elsewhere.

Well, at least they are recognized in EU and I cannot be rejected holding Polish diploma, right?

Having a diploma does not guarantee a job. Not by a long shot. The quality and reputation of the program are important to employers, and they can reject you because you diploma is not good enough, even if it is from Poland.

I was planning to major in technical field and get first work experience in Poland right away,

As I said above, this is a very unwise plan. Make your plans assuming that you will NOT get work in Poland.

but I have no idea what my chances of finding a job in Poland are and what salary I can expect to get with no prior work experience.

Chances of finding a job in Poland are poor. Don't count on it. Salaries are also poor, especially for entry level jobs.

are they willing to accept foreigners in the labor market?

Yes, if they are highly educated, highly qualified and very experienced, especially at higher level jobs. Not so much if they are not and applying for entry-level jobs that Poles can do. Generally, you're going to be fiercely competing with masses of unemployed recent graduates from Poland. Unless you're really outstanding, they are going to get hired before you.

Is it a good idea to graduate in Poland or I should consider another European country?

Graduating from an English language program in Poland is probably no better than graduating from a university in the Ukraine. Graduating from a serious program at a serious university in the Ukraine would be worth more on the job market in any EU country. If you want to study anywhere in the EU, make sure it is in a serious program at a serious university. If you study in an inferior program at a low-ranking university, your diploma will probably be worth a lot less than a diploma from a serious program at a serious university in the Ukraine.

So far, you haven't said anything to indicate that studying in your own country is the best option available to you. Without good reasons to study in the EU and a good plan for doing so, it would be unwise to do so. It seems as if you think that any old diploma from any old university in any old EU country is some sort of "magic key". It isn't.
OP jock3r37 2 | 11
28 May 2013 #9
Ukraine :) Well, most Ukrainian degrees are not considered equal to European ones. Say, MA degree in CS would be considered as BA in Europe. Btw, tuition fees are even higher than in Poland since you also need to give a decent bribe to get your diploma or they won't even consider you as a candidate. Finally, salaries are among the lowest in Europe, and that's in case you manage to find a job which is pretty difficult to do I should say. Education in my country is a business, not a way to start your career. So, I am trying to find better opportunities somewhere else :)
DominicB - | 2,706
28 May 2013 #10
Your best option then is to find a SERIOUS program at a SERIOUS university in the EU. Poland would be a poor choice. If your really serious about studying IT and really want to make a comfortable living, serious programs at serious universities in Germany, Holland, Scandinavia and the UK are where you should be looking.
OP jock3r37 2 | 11
28 May 2013 #11
Thank you for your detailed response. That's what I really needed to know before making a decision.
Chae
4 Jul 2015 #12
@DOMINICB so if he can't afford UK he should go for IT do you people reason at all.. U think its all about where u heard ur degree or what?... Mtcheeeew mehn everything lies in God's hands not the rubbish advise u are giving. So are u now trying to say everybody in Poland is poor or uv applied for a job dere and they paid u in a poor way. IF YOUR BODY DEY SMELL NO THINK SAY NA SO EVERY OTHER PERSON OWN DEY. NEVER DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM THEIR DREAMS PLS..
ElRancho
4 Jul 2015 #13
@jock3r37: what will you study? That's very important

You can find job in Poland as an hi specialized Msc graduated, but depends a lot in which kind of job.

In West Poland the big outsourcing IT companies are harvesting for good developers and they're hiring tons of non-EU programmers, especially ukrainians, but recently even a mid-east guy joined my team: he graudated in a Msc program in english language in Poland, he doesn't speaks polish, and started with a salari of 10k gross that allow you to live very well as a single
ephesus - | 1
3 Mar 2018 #14
Merged:

Poland's Residence Permit Applying Status



Hello everyone,

I am graduating from my master's studies in the next September but my current residence permit ends in July. I want to extend my residence permit but I don't know with which status I should apply again. Should I apply as a student again for two months or should I apply as a graduate already? (I will be able to have my diploma in September, of course)

I would really appreciate your answers, thanks in advance.


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