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OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #481
This thread is about dumb Polack "culture", not Russia.

Tell me, as a Polack - are you offended by the use of the word?
convex 20 | 3,978
28 Nov 2010 #482
This thread is about dumb Polack "culture"

What is "dumb polack culture"? Why are you offended enough to open a thread?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
28 Nov 2010 #483
The wieśniaki here are a bit like American rednecks. Offensive? Nah, funny if you ask me.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #484
What is "dumb polack culture"? Why are you offended enough to open a thread?

Hmm. I think it's the way that they patronise, look down on and act superior to Poles that annoyed me, along with the way that they seem to want to dictate to Poles how Poland should be, without actually being here to make a difference.

But - it's dumb Polack "culture"...schematics, I know, but the point is that they have no culture ;)

(too much time on my hands, I think)
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Nov 2010 #485
What is "dumb polack culture"?

It's something that a bored PFer thought of. It doesn't really exist outside this forum ;)
MediaWatch 10 | 945
28 Nov 2010 #486
What is "dumb polack culture"? Why are you offended enough to open a thread?

That's a good question to Delphiadomine.

He seems to be offended at just the existence of Polish people.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #487
He seems to be offended at just the existence of Polish people.

Nope. Not offended at all.

I'm offended by American Polacks acting like they know best about Poland when none of them pay tax here or indeed do a damn thing to help the country. Now - that's offensive.

Don't you see MediaWatch - I like real Polish people. You know, the ones who lived most of their lives in Poland, who want to see it develop and who passionately care about the place. Even the ones who don't care less are still fine by me, because they live here and pay taxes here and contribute to society, even if their contributions are worthless.

American Polacks on the other hand can get lost.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Nov 2010 #488
I'm offended by American Polacks acting like they know best about Poland when none of them pay tax here or indeed do a damn thing to help the country. Now - that's offensive.

We know everything about everything because we have Google :)
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #489
That's the problem :(

The English language media in general doesn't "get" Poland and the complex dynamics here at all. I still don't think I've read one English language source that really gets to grips with the people-Church-State dynamic for instance.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Nov 2010 #490
Somebody should write a book about it translated into English or in English so everyone can read about the real Poland.
convex 20 | 3,978
28 Nov 2010 #491
PlasticPole

You've created a monster through the simple registration of a nick :)

I'm offended by American Polacks

Do you consider the word Polack offensive? what does it mean to you?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Nov 2010 #492
You've created a monster through the simple registration of a nick :)

Lol, I got the idea from a thread on PF where posters mentioned "plastic poles". I thought it sounded cute.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #493
Somebody should write a book about it translated into English or in English so everyone can read about the real Poland.

They would probably refuse to accept it if it wasn't written to conform to their viewpoint. It's not a bad idea, but remember - the potential audience thinks that Poland still has the values of the 1930's, not the 2010's.

Do you consider the word Polack offensive? what does it mean to you?

Not a damn thing. I asked quite a few Poles what they thought about it, and they all said "why would we be offended by the word for a male Pole?"
MediaWatch 10 | 945
28 Nov 2010 #494
LOL

You are so full of Baloney. You hate Polish people despite whatever you say.

So do you vote in all the Polish elections?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Nov 2010 #495
It's not a bad idea, but remember - the potential audience thinks that Poland still has the values of the 1930's, not the 2010's.

That's why we need a book about Poland 2010. People are still thinking about 1939.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #496
You hate Polish people despite whatever you say.

I seriously wonder if you can read or not.

What part of "I like Polish people, just not dumb American Polacks pretending to be Polish" don't you understand?

So do you vote in all the Polish elections?

In the ones where I'm entitled to, of course. It's a civic duty to be well informed about the election and to vote according to one's conscience. I have a horrific decision to make next weekend, and not voting isn't an option either :(
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
28 Nov 2010 #497
This thread is about dumb Polack "culture"

Why don't you get your dumb a** out of Poland if you don't like us, who invited you anyway? leave
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #498
Sorry, as a European Union citizen, I can stay in Poland all I like. And guess what - I like Polish culture and her history. The arts scene is booming in Poland :)

Anyway, you don't even live in Poland, so what makes you qualified to comment? You're just another Plastic Pole who eats kielbasa and thinks that he's a patriot. When you pay taxes in Poland, you can comment, sunshine.
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
28 Nov 2010 #499
Anyway, you don't even live in Poland, so what makes you qualified to comment?

Me being Polish by blood and birth qualifies me.

You're just another Plastic Pole who eats kielbasa and thinks that he's a patriot.

You're not a Pole anyway you can look at it and never will be, EU "citizen".

And guess what - I like Polish culture and her history.

But you come on here and talk about Polish people call them Pollacks, get your head checked. Let me guess ur situation, you moved to Poland they don't wanna give you a job cause you're a foreigner, can't get no girl there cause you're ugly and so you come here and take your frustration out, getting close??
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Nov 2010 #500
You're just another Plastic Pole

He could be a marshmallow Pole. You never know.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
28 Nov 2010 #501
Me being Polish by blood and birth qualifies me.

But what do you know about Poland today? Nothing.

You're not a Pole anyway you can look at it and never will be, EU "citizen

Sorry, another 3 years and I'll be entitled to apply for Polish citizenship. I think I shall as well, just for fun :)

But you come on here and talk about Polish people call them Pollacks, get your head checked.

You don't get it, do you? I don't call Polish people "Polacks". I call American Polonia "Polacks" because that's what they are - they're certainly not Polish!

Let me guess ur situation, you moved to Poland they don't wanna give you a job cause you're a foreigner, can't get no girl there cause you're ugly and so you come here and take your frustration out, getting close??

Sorry, I have my own business here, I'm getting married in a few months and generally - I'm much more productive in Poland than you are. At the end of the day - you're just a Plastic Polack who is only Polish when it suits him.

Tell me, what would you do if America and Poland went to war? Would you come and fight for Poland? Would you ****.
Ashleys mind 3 | 455
29 Nov 2010 #502
Hmm. I think it's the way that they patronise, look down on and act superior to Poles that annoyed me, along with the way that they seem to want to dictate to Poles how Poland should be, without actually being here to make a difference.

Don't the Yanks have this approach with every country...? They have had the lead role in world political affairs through representational multilateral alignment and have dominated the world's economic and political spheres for decades...

If you want a well evaluated and dignified reverence for a country, why would you approach an American for that per se?

To be fair though, It's easy to think you've still got a grip on the goings on in any country once you've spent some time there, and especially if you have had it projected like some myth by your immigrant parents through your ancestral ties.

But this doesn't make that parcel of information necessarily correct or incorrect... it's just harder to maintain a real notion for any place unless you're actually there surrounded by the people, the media, the politics, the everyday life. And it's pointless to pretend otherwise.

The "brotherhood" between Poles and Polaks is dubious at most. I know of many Poles who have family in the States which they simply do not maintain contact with... this says alot about family ties once a cultural barrier is put in place.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
29 Nov 2010 #503
Tell me, what would you do if America and Poland went to war? Would you come and fight for Poland? Would you ****.

That will never happen.
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
29 Nov 2010 #504
But what do you know about Poland today? Nothing.

since i came here i've been back to Poland 8 times each time for 2 or 3 months, you just presumed that i havnt been there in 20 yrs.

Sorry, another 3 years and I'll be entitled to apply for Polish citizenship

I was born a citizen

American Polonia "Polacks" because that's what they are - they're certainly not Polish!

What YOUR theory on the meaning of that word is and what it means in reality are two completely different things. Its an American term, for Polish people all Polish people, specifically they mean Polish people who came from Poland or are in Poland NOT Polish Americans, who have assimilated and been educated there, they mean dumb Pollacks from Poland, like the ones who came here in the 1920's with no education.

you're just a Plastic Polack who is only Polish when it suits him.

Tell me, what would you do if America and Poland went to war? Would you come and fight for Poland?

And you're still a dumb f**k, of course i would in a heart beat, Plastic? you probably can't even speak or language well so shut up
Ashleys mind 3 | 455
29 Nov 2010 #505
Tell me, what would you do if America and Poland went to war? Would you come and fight for Poland? Would you ****.

That's a stupid question. The ties between the two countries still exist... maybe because so many American's have Poland in their hearts (THAT can never be removed).

And Delph, at what point do you consider yourself no longer British...? I just wonder if you are challenging the reality of still being Polish in a foreign land because YOU have shed your love for your homeland...?

Are you jealous that someone may still maintain their kinship for their country despite the great distance in time and space that separates them geographically?

You can spend years yearning for your "home" to find out that it has changed indeed... But where you feel you belong is something more than tangible. Ask prisoners this who have spent 20 years in the slammer yearning to be free only to realise they have lost the ability to function in that modem anymore...
MediaWatch 10 | 945
29 Nov 2010 #506
In the ones where I'm entitled to, of course. It's a civic duty to be well informed about the election and to vote according to one's conscience. I have a horrific decision to make next weekend, and not voting isn't an option either :(

So there are some elections you are entitled to and some you are not? Really?

You can't vote in all the Polish elections?

Can you vote in the key elections like for Prime Minisister and President?

May I ask what elections you have voted in?
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
29 Nov 2010 #507
So there are some elections you are entitled to and some you are not? Really?

As a European citizen, I can vote in local and European elections. Normal European law, applies to all EU citizens in all EU countries.

Can you vote in the key elections like for Prime Minisister and President?

Sadly, no. Not yet, anyway - though I'll likely be able to vote in the next Presidential election.

Personally, it irritates me that Poles abroad (who don't pay taxes in Poland) can vote, but I, as a resident and taxpayer can't. Reminds me of the old DC "no taxation without representation" argument.

May I ask what elections you have voted in?

The elections last week, the last European elections and the 2nd round of the city Presidential election next Sunday.

Both my votes went to centre-left candidates who are concerned with social justice - I'd like to see a Poland that allows anyone who can, to do. The current situation where children have to go without schoolbooks if they can't afford them is nothing short of scandalous.

For what it's worth, I'm in the middle of setting up a foundation which will (hopefully!) provide scholarships to poorer children with potential. Do you think the American Polonia would support such an organisation? It really makes me mad whenever I hear about some cases here, such as kids being deprived school trips through not having the money :(
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
29 Nov 2010 #508
another 3 years and I'll be entitled to apply for Polish citizenship.

You're one of those people that imagines things to be a certain way and believes them. So what? you'll BECOME a citizen over time, you're a foreigner who moved to Poland, i was born a citizen and am of Polish blood and you'll think once you get your citizenship and live there you'll be more Polish than i am ?????? don't make me laugh. You must have some kind of issues with yourself with belonging there to even start a thread like this one.
landora - | 199
29 Nov 2010 #509
I dunno. Maybe they only want to comment on Russkies? ;)

My goodness, you are obsessed!

Why don't you get your dumb a** out of Poland if you don't like us, who invited you anyway? leave

Can you people read? We are talking about Polonia, not about Poles in Poland.

Although I'm quite happy with the Polonia at the moment, after they refused to interfere in the Smolensk crash inquiry when PiS asked them to.

I still think they should not be allowed to vote in our elections though.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
29 Nov 2010 #510
The elections last week, the last European elections and the 2nd round of the city Presidential election next Sunday.

So as of now you can vote in the next Presidential election in Poland?

So you being an "EU citizen" you can vote in local Polish elections? It allows you to vote in the 2nd round of your city's Presidential election? So you being an EU citizen allows you to vote in some Polish elections?

I'm just trying to get a feeling as to what elections in Poland your EU Citizenship allows you to participate in. It seems like half of the Polish elections you are allowed to vote in.


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