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Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture"


OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
4 Nov 2010 #361
I heard a bunch of Germans, Austrians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Russkys, Swedes and others came into Eastern Europe, mixed up with each other and became the nice milkshake we today call Poland. ;)

Pretty much. Add in Jews, Ruthenians, even some Scots (Napieralski? Hmm....) and more. Modern day Poland is really a melting pot - and this is fantastic. It does mean that Polish ethnicity is pretty much unclear, but who cares? The nationality is still Polish, and with it, the shared history and so on.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
4 Nov 2010 #362
That was beautiful, but if you wanna say nice things about Poles, why you keep referring to us Pollacks? i don't call u a Mick or whatever you call a Scott.
Havok 10 | 912
4 Nov 2010 #363
But how do they know that they are actually 100% Polish?

a 100% right... go ahead and start reading mein kampf, you're behind a bit... I'm sure you will agree with it. Let's just do a clean up... real poles on one side and plastic poles well off to a summer camp for indoctrination lessons, hopefully they'll "pass" otherwise it's "shower time".

after all arbeit mit frei

Do i have to be 100% polish to feel polish?
Maybe 12 | 409
4 Nov 2010 #364
i don't call u a Mick or whatever you call a Scott.

..groan.....

no but for a comment like that you might be accused of being ignorant...
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
4 Nov 2010 #365
How's that? on this thread alone he's referred to us as Pollacks or dumb Pollacks knowing full well that that's offensive in the English language, last time i checked this forum is in English.
convex 20 | 3,978
4 Nov 2010 #366
Need to work on your slurs. No one wanted to comment about PolackJohhnies that I posted earlier?
Maybe 12 | 409
4 Nov 2010 #367
i don't call u a Mick or whatever you call a Scott.

he's referred to us as Pollacks or dumb Pollacks

Do I need to say anything?
Havok 10 | 912
4 Nov 2010 #368
retty much. Add in Jews, Ruthenians, even some Scots (Napieralski? Hmm....) and more. Modern day Poland is really a melting pot - and this is fantastic. It does mean that Polish ethnicity is pretty much unclear, but who cares? The nationality is still Polish, and with it, the shared history and so on.

I'm a little confused by your post. First, you're saying that polish people in the US are plastic and shortly after that you post something that Poland is a melting pot where no one cares what they are.

You gotta make up your mind. which one is it? It's ok to change your mind just say it clearly.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
4 Nov 2010 #369
Do I need to say anything?

Is it not registering, he called us that first several times, that's why i called him that, i dunno what the hell you're talking about and what you're trying to prove
Maybe 12 | 409
4 Nov 2010 #370
i dunno what the hell you're talking about

Clearly, thus compounding the whole situation.

I'm sure some people understand the oh so painful irony....with specific reference to your goodself. ;)

Limey, Polak, Paki, Mick...... don't stress stick and stones will break my bones but.......

Personally I'm a Froggy/limey bourgeois c@nt. :)
Piast Poland 3 | 182
4 Nov 2010 #371
Of course people are all mixed to various extents no matter how recent or long ago, its works it way over time both. By every definition that matters I am 100% Polish. Despite whatever ethnic mixing I may have I am as Polish as anyone (Except for Polonia, which is mostly extremely mixed). The mixing goes for all groups in the area yet they, same as us are not any less of whatever it is that they are.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
4 Nov 2010 #372
I'm sure some people understand the oh so painful irony....with specific reference to your goodself. ;)

Limey, Polak, Paki, Mick...... don't stress stick and stones will break my bones but.......

If you can read i said Mick or whatever you call a Scott, meaning i wasn't sure i've stated that, and i already told you why i said it, he started using language like that not me, i don't care how you see it childish or whatever, if you're gonna say something about it say something to him also
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
5 Nov 2010 #373
I'm a little confused by your post. First, you're saying that polish people in the US are plastic and shortly after that you post something that Poland is a melting pot where no one cares what they are.

Because Plastic Polacks are not Polish. Is it that hard to understand?

No one wanted to comment about PolackJohhnies that I posted earlier?

Well, if "Polack" is so offensive, they should be getting rather upset, shouldn't they?

Or is it the case of choosing when to be offended?
wildeckireneget
5 Nov 2010 #374
Why do you keep responding to this obvious troll delphiandomine? Ignore him
I can't figure out why he isn't banned yet because his every post is poisonous towards polish people
Havok 10 | 912
5 Nov 2010 #375
Because Plastic Polacks are not Polish. Is it that hard to understand?

And who are you to argue they're not? You’re Scottish; you don’t fully understand Polish or the US culture. You’re a donkey giving lessons to a horse on how to be one.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
5 Nov 2010 #376
You don't have to be a genius to work out that a dumb Polack who can't speak Polish isn't actually Polish at all.

I quite admire the Polonia who got off their ass, learnt Polish and would love to move to Poland permanently if they could make it work - but dumb Polacks? They're about as Polish as I am - ie, not at all.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699
5 Nov 2010 #377
You don't have to be a genius to work out that a dumb Polack who can't speak Polish isn't actually Polish at all.

lol its apparent that your not a genius cause you cant even work out what you just said.

* Duh, my name is del and I live in Poland and pay taxes and my real name is BEN DOVER..

lol..
Havok 10 | 912
5 Nov 2010 #378
You don't have to be a genius to work out that a dumb Polack who can't speak Polish isn't actually Polish at all.

Bredzisz, jakby cię fura z gnojem przejechała...

I believe, it's a matter of preference.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
5 Nov 2010 #379
You don't have to be a genius to work out that a dumb Polack who can't speak Polish isn't actually Polish at all.

I quite admire the Polonia who got off their ass, learnt Polish and would love to move to Poland permanently if they could make it work - but dumb Polacks? They're about as Polish as I am - ie, not at all.

Well at least they are not Rancid Russkys.
noreenb 7 | 557
5 Nov 2010 #380
I wanted to say that a word "Polack" is negative and shouldn't be in a title as something what can cause direspectful attitude toward readers and writers who take part in the discussion at start.

Actually, it's as biased as a word "black" for them who have black skin.
Polish slang does not keep in its spoken language a word "Polaki".
It sounds bad.
JIMHO of course.
Literary translation would sound "Plastikowa kulturka Polaczków".
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
5 Nov 2010 #381
Well at least they are not Rancid Russkys.

Still wittering on about Russians, are we? Anyone would think that you've got quite the obsession with Russia.

I wanted to say that a word "Polack" is negative and shouldn't be in a title as something what can cause direspectful attitude toward readers and writers who take part in the discussion at start.

So is Polack Johnnys "negative"?
noreenb 7 | 557
5 Nov 2010 #382
So is Polack Johnnys "negative"?

YYY, Brit Tom?
I don't catch, what do you mean?
Ok, sorry, I haven't read the thread carefully.
Your intentions are good but a title is a bit like a magnet.
I felt I even didn't want to read it.
That's all.
But, actually, as far as I'm trying to read it now, I see that the thread is not as bad as I thought at the beginning.

:)
Actually it's very good.
But I think that a title is very bad.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
5 Nov 2010 #383
Still wittering on about Russians, are we? Anyone would think that you've got quite the obsession with Russia.

The only time I am "wittering about Russians" is when I see somebody, who in my opinion is a plastic dumb Russky, going on and on wittering about the Polish people. Other wise I really don't "witter about the Russians" at all.

So basically I don't "witter" about the Russians at all. Just the dumb plastic Russkys who try to fool other people about their ancestry and who they are. This is the same crap you pull on all the other East European forums. You go on attacking Poles, Ukrainians and Americans who say the slightest things about dumb Rancid Russkys. Who are you kidding.

What you do on this forum is just like what you do on the other East European forums. You are on these forums 24 hours a day. Didn't you say you had a job?? LOL

To either party, if this off topic nonsense continues a timeout will be given
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
5 Nov 2010 #384
To either party, if this off topic nonsense continues a timeout will be given

okay :)

But this does show something very interesting - here we have a "Polack" using the term "East Europe" towards Poland. Yet - anyone who lives in Poland will be acutely aware of how Poland has been pushing away from the Eastern European tag as early as the mid 1990's - and how Poles consider themselves to be Central, not Eastern European.

This is why, in my ever so humble opinion, these "Polacks" are not Polish, but rather some sort of sub-division-of-American ethnicity. They know very, very little about the cultural issues affecting Poland - apart from what they read in the heavily right-wing "Polack" press. Certainly, I haven't met a Pole yet who called themselves "Eastern European" - in their eyes, "East" is Russia/Belarus/Ukraine.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
5 Nov 2010 #385
To either party, if this off topic nonsense continues a timeout will be given

Fair enough.

But with all due respect moderator, why is a nonsense blatantly Anti-Polish topic like this allowed with an anti-Polish slur in the title and anti-Polish slurs and attacks made by the person who started it? Of course the party that disagrees with the anti-Polish attacks is going to react to it. If you're going to allow a nonsense topic you're only going to get nonsense comments on it.

This topic was never meant to get a better understanding of Polish Americans or "Plastic Poles". It was meant ONLY to attack Polish people in Poland and their relatives outside of Poland.

If you look at the comments, the party that keeps pushing the attacks and nonsense is the one who started the topic. But for some strange reason he keeps getting special treatment where he can go on and on attacking Polish people using slur words like "Polack" but God forbid somebody has the opinion that delphiandomine's ancestry is "Russky" and that he is a plastic Russky.

Since Russia has been largely involved in the history of Poland (negatively) would it be OK if I start a topic called "Russkys/Plastic Russians/How Russkys distort their identity on forums to bash Poles"?
Havok 10 | 912
5 Nov 2010 #386
This is why, in my ever so humble opinion, these "Polacks" are not Polish, but rather some sort of sub-division-of-American ethnicity.

how would you like me calling you sub-division-of-Polish ethnicity or Sub-Scottish-Polack for short?

You're just not very convincing.

They know very, very little about the cultural issues affecting Poland

try me,

damn, i gotta catch an airplane for new orleans, i guess i'll talk to you monday
Lenka 3 | 2,561
5 Nov 2010 #387
I was really mad at American Polonia once in my life.It was after elections for a president in 2000 when in Polonia Tv I've heard interviews with ppl from US that claimed that ppl in Poland are stupid because they chose Kwaśniewski (US Polonia chose Krzaklewski).I've got really pissed off.How ppl that never been in Poland can tell me who I should choose?If you want to decide bring your ass here and live here.And I don't mean someone who works there but plan to come back here-I'm talking about ppl who live there and don't want to change it.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
5 Nov 2010 #388
Happened this year as well. The whole condescending "oh, you don't know what's good for you" is just so absolutely insulting towards Poland - as is the way that they claim to be Polish, they interfere in the Polish state, yet they have no sense of the consequences of their actions.

Kwasniewski was a great success as President, drunken incidents aside.
pgtx 30 | 3,157
5 Nov 2010 #389
The whole condescending "oh, you don't know what's good for you" is just so absolutely insulting towards Poland

they were living in the US for too long and got carried away with the same way of "understanding" things... hehehe...
convex 20 | 3,978
5 Nov 2010 #390
But for some strange reason he keeps getting special treatment where he can go on and on attacking Polish people using slur words like "Polack" but God forbid somebody has the opinion that delphiandomine's ancestry is "Russky" and that he is a plastic Russky.

Is it such a terrible slur in the states? If so, what are your thoughts on Polock Johnny's in Bawlmer?

Since Russia has been largely involved in the history of Poland (negatively) would it be OK if I start a topic called "Russkys/Plastic Russians/How Russkys distort their identity on forums to bash Poles"?

Sure, but I think it's Russkies.


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