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Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English?


RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
27 Feb 2010 #31
Men who use prostitutes should be shot. Pimps too.

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if you wish to receive full-pro service, you go to professionelle ;)

The moronic ones choose not to integrate and only cause problems. They are little ingrates with little purpose to their lives. Good folk rise above that.

oh, yeah, right. no, actually wrong.
the moronic people do not think and do whatever other do (i.e. without thinking, 'just because'). less idiotic can think and chose: to integrate or not. question is: why should they integrate? why should they leave their old habits etc and replace them with the new ones?
Seanus 15 | 19,674
27 Feb 2010 #32
If others make sensible choices, the morons only do by default then. What are their old habits then?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
27 Feb 2010 #33
if you wish to receive full-pro service, you go to professionelle ;)

Men who view women as nothing more than a piece of meet are inhumane. They should be treated as such. I view the abuse of vulnerable women(prostitutes) as rape.
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
27 Feb 2010 #34
If others make sensible choices, the morons only do by default then.

right, it would be stupid to disagree with you.

What are their old habits then?

i've been thinking about something that could be described rather as 'mentality' than 'normal' habits

Men who view women as nothing more than a piece of meet are inhumane.

sure; of course it also apply to women viewing men as walking wallet are much better, right? and, seriously: why the f*ck viewing them as they are (in many cases just a meet) would be 'inhumane'

They should be treated as such. I view the abuse of vulnerable women(prostitutes) as rape.

lol. of course you exclude voluntary prostitution, right? ah, no, sorry: they have been enforced 'by society' (pimp, drugs etc) into it, without their faut, right?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
27 Feb 2010 #35
sure; of course it also apply to women viewing men as walking wallet are much better, right? and, seriously: why the f*ck viewing them as they are (in many cases just a meet) would be 'inhumane'

Drug dealers, pimps and abusers of vulnerable women deserve what they get. They abuse the most vulnerable in society, the working class.

lol. of course you exclude voluntary prostitution, right? ah, no, sorry: they have been enforced 'by society' (pimp, drugs etc) into it, without their faut, right?

No such thing. Do you think any mentally stable woman dreams of becoming a brasser?

I will put this to you, if your daughter decided to sell her holes for money, would you think "ah its her choice"?
Exiled 2 | 425
27 Feb 2010 #36
I noticed that in societies like Ukraine etc prostitution is widely socially acceptable.Many girls would wish to have borders opened for some prostitution in the West.
PolishNutjob 1 | 74
27 Feb 2010 #37
Drug dealers, pimps and abusers of vulnerable women deserve what they get. They abuse the most vulnerable in society, the working class.

This also applies to proprietors of liquor stores.
f stop 25 | 2,507
27 Feb 2010 #38
Yea! At this point, it follows that I should throw Rockefeller, and his dealing in illegal alcohol, into a discussion.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
27 Feb 2010 #39
This also applies to proprietors of liquor stores.

There is a difference between a working man purchasing a couple of beers after a days work compared to an impoverished female selling herself to cure her growling stomach. Some perspective, please.
Varsovian 91 | 634
27 Feb 2010 #40
Weird thread.

I've not particularly noticed any disrespect towards the English. Actually, I feel I get higher status treatment in Poland precisely because I am English - in the workplace too.

Moreover, the English are generally a bunch of chumps when it comes to treating ANYBODY with respect. They treat each other with disrespect - taking the mickey is a national sport - especially so if you're a foreigner. My Polish wife got a very mixed reception in England, despite the fact she was a top student at a prestigious Polish university (Warsaw). Some respectful, too many not.
Nika 2 | 507
27 Feb 2010 #41
Its seams to me they want our hospitality and the money they get from working here but they do not like us. It feels really very disrespectful.

Same in Ireland too.

Same in the US too

Same in Poland too.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498
27 Feb 2010 #42
Britain that earning a living there comes with an obligation to love UK and every Brit.

This thread is about Poles in England - in other parts of the UK, the term "Brit" is used as an insult.
stevepl 2 | 49
27 Feb 2010 #43
higher status treatment in Poland precisely because I am English

I totally agree. My wife always laughs when I praise the Polish health service, according to her they just treat me so well because I'm English.

On another occasion at work we had a problem with a complaint to a supplier. He was justifying himself and claiming that our companies engineers were in the wrong. When he heard that the engineer involved was English he completely changed his stance, apologised and corrected the mistake!! My wife was the person communicating with the supplier and again she was amazed at the total turnaround just because I'm English.

I must admit that the respect we used to get probably wasn't justified and was based off an archaic image of the english gentlemen. These days I notice that it's decreasing, probably due to an increased familiarity ( 'familiarity breeds contempt' ). Probably not helped by the drunken yobs visiting Kraków as well.
Varsovian 91 | 634
27 Feb 2010 #44
Brit is used as an insult by twats with massive complexes!!
Maaarysia
27 Feb 2010 #45
According to surveys English (or overally British) are among the most liked nations by Poles. In 2006 Englishmen were in the 1st place, in 2008 are the 2nd most liked nation. So I'm suprised to hear that you find Poles disrespectful. I think it might depend on a person not a nationallity (some ppl are rude just that or maybe the person you've met have some bad experience in UK).

Brit is used as an insult by twats with massive complexes!!

Never heard about it. Whenever I see in tv some british production I hear britishmen refering to themselves "Brits"!
irishdeano 5 | 304
27 Feb 2010 #46
Drug dealers, pimps and abusers of vulnerable women deserve what they get

100%
marqoz - | 195
27 Feb 2010 #47
Its seams to me they want our hospitality and the money they get from working here but they do not like us. It feels really very disrespectful.

Maybe the problem is with you, Nataliee.
You answered in your profile No thank god on the question, if you speak Polish.
You must hate Poles, and believe me it must be easily perceived by your Polish interlocutors. They give you tit for tat.
Ksysia 25 | 430
27 Feb 2010 #48
I'm not sure what is exactly perceived as disrespectful here?! disrespectful is opposed to friendly, then what happens to respectful??? I am respectful, though sometimes I wonder if the English around me really understand that I am. It seems to me that to them - the respect which means the 'recognition of humanity' (podmiotowość), is just an unknown idea.

But they do of course have some incomplete idea of manners. They say good morning, open the door and generally spend time paying attention to one another. They don't know about eating silently, looking either in the eyes or not at all, not listening to other people conversations, not shouting, the rules of who greets first etc.

And really, there is a problem of cheap labour. Think for a minute - if I could get one of the 40k jobs that I apply for, would I work for 18? But I can't, because such jobs are not offered to me. I'm not respected enough. I'm trying hard not to show it, but there is a neon light flashing a big 'FUVK YALL' hovering above my head.

Not because of the amount of money, because I could be in Admin and they get paid that much. It's because of what other Finance people are paid, and that I'm expected to accept less.

And I do. Otherwise I would have no job at all.

Puzzle for you - when the London market will crash again in 18-30 months, while Poland is making the oil contracts with Russia, Norway and Iran, and your redundant people will start coming to Poland (increasing over ten years), what will happen?

I can tell you - those Poles who have never been screwed over by the Anglos, will treat you like foreign royalty (like we and Russians treat foreigners). Those of us who have been to the Island, will not want to talk to you.

I bet that English have not enough class to just go about your business and content with a sign hovering over your head. I bet you will start yapping. Well, take into account that in Poland we don't have the damages trials. No no joy is awaiting you from yapping.

And is there any satisfaction for me? Not at all. I've given it a thought, and I will hire Anglos. One doesn't hire friends for liking them, but strangers for work. But I will only hire the ones who work like Poles.
Nika 2 | 507
27 Feb 2010 #49
Maybe the problem is with you, Nataliee.

I think Miss Natalie E doesn't have a problem with Poles in general, but with Polish women, hence the "especially women" in the subject of her thread.

Maybe her bf/fiancé/husband has left her, escaped with a pretty Polish girl, and Miss is now taking her anger out on all the Polish ppl of the world.

With all due respect Miss English, that is pitiful, however, I truly hope that all the above negative comments have comforted you, and made you feel better.
Arien 3 | 719
27 Feb 2010 #50
Men who view women as nothing more than a piece of meet are inhumane. They should be treated as such. I view the abuse of vulnerable women(prostitutes) as rape.

Not entirely, no. I wouldn't vieuw any woman as a piece of meat, but ofcourse there are women who choose to sell themselves. I fail to see how rape comes into this. If you would talk about women trafficking and the exploiting of women who live in poverty, then I'd say you're absolutely right.

sure; of course it also apply to women viewing men as walking wallet are much better, right?

You have a point, but it's not like every woman would agree with you. Oh, and vieuwing a woman as a piece of meat would be inhumane indeed. She's a human being with feelings and emotions, just like yourself, but maybe you'll understand when you're raising your own little lady one day. (You never know!)

It's because of what other Finance people are paid, and that I'm expected to accept less.

I understand you completely, but it's not like I'm expecting anything to change soon. I can only hope that one day the people who call themselves liberals will understand that it's in their best interest to treat people fairly. I'd almost call it a law of nature, because it's a very simple, yet universal truth. You reap what you sow.

For the ones who still don't understand; If you want people to respect you, you should treat them with respect. You can't expect people to respect you when you're talking about solidarity, respect in society and all that charity-talk about reducing poverty, when all you have to offer is lip-service.

I gave up on politics, but I will keep talking about simple values. It doesn't matter if you're left or right wing, or a centrist, because we're all human beings, and we all want a decent life for ourselves.

:)
Bzibzioh
27 Feb 2010 #51
This thread is about Poles in England - in other parts of the UK, the term "Brit" is used as an insult.

For me "Brit" is just short for British person. Definitely not an insult.
Ogorki - | 114
28 Feb 2010 #52
Bzibzioh:
That's funny cos English chavs on the booze in Krakow are an absolute nightmare. They’re loud, crude, immensely rude, and completely without respect. You must inform those rude Poles in Britain that earning a living there comes with an obligation to love UK and every Brit. Regardless how they are treated there and what they are blamed for.

Poland needs tourists more than the UK needs labour. If the Brits stoppep holidaying in Poland and repatriated all Poles working in the UK, whom would it hurt more?

The arrogance is spectacular.
So you think tourism means going to an ancient city full of churches - a place considered sacred by Poles - and getting pissed with yer mates, mocking locals because they can't speak English, pulling your trousers down and mooning nuns, urinating up a 1000 year old church, acting like animals with zero repect for your surroundings and host culture - because you think you are better - you have the right to do this - because you are British.

You don't get it - and unfortunately you never will.

I think Miss Natalie E doesn't have a problem with Poles in general, but with Polish women, hence the "especially women" in the subject of her thread.
Maybe her bf/fiancé/husband has left her, escaped with a pretty Polish girl, and Miss is now taking her anger out on all the Polish ppl of the world.

...oh and look at what other threads Miss Natalie E has been replying to...

Do you think that Polish people are rude?
Are Polish girls "gold diggers"?

Nataliee
Oh yes they.You should of seen that one coming. They are arrogant penny pinching, disrespectful gold diggers. I have had a polish friend who i had to get rid of she tryed to use my house like a hotel when i let her stay here once. Then lost her mind and got really angry at me when i cut her off because of it i think she thought she had me pegged as a permantant place to use as a hotel for her and her bf when she was in england. I have also had a polish female lodger who told me she was going to pay me £50 less rent a month because i removed my own vacum from the house, which i left in the beginning out of kindness for a month or 2!

Oh and yesterday i got told off in my local cafe by some nasty Polish girl because she charged me £2.40 for a sandwich instead of £2.65 which was her fault...Rather than just leave it she chased me out of the cafe and looked at me in discust before banning me from the cafe i have used for 15 years!! Over 25p!!!!! which i would of happily given her if she had asked me for it at the till!!

Your Lucky she diddnt get your house..I dont think they like us at all they just want our money..Keep away from them.


...MMMMMEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! LOL!!

Looks like you've been busted.
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #53
...oh and look at what other threads Miss Natalie E has been replying to...

Do you think that Polish people are rude?
Are Polish girls "gold diggers"?

I know, I've checked her profile as well. Poor girl, she must have been through a lot of problems with them horrid Polish women...

So you think tourism means going to an ancient city full of churches - a place considered sacred by Poles - and getting pissed with yer mates, mocking locals because they can't speak English, pulling your trousers down and mooning nuns, urinating up a 1000 year old church, acting like animals with zero repect for your surroundings and host culture - because you think you are better - you have the right to do this - because you are British.

That's probably why the British are now only 2nd most liked nation by Poles, as per Maaarysia's post :)
Seanus 15 | 19,674
28 Feb 2010 #54
I'm glad that the posters here have largely drawn the distinction between Scots and Angles. I can imagine quite a few Polish women being disrespectful but not necessarily because they are Polish, that's just how they are. Smart Poles will shun them too for being boorish.
Varsovian 91 | 634
28 Feb 2010 #55
My Polish wife got called a gold digger by my English family (but not by my English friends).
This helped us decide to emigrate to Poland, where we both got better jobs, have a better house and intend to build some houses on the building plots we bought a few years back as investments.

I can't remember what it's like living with a mortgage!

Emigrating away from underachieving dumbos was the bravest and best thing we ever did - certainly better than staying foreign language schoolteachers in England (even though my school was fantastic and hers was decent).
Seanus 15 | 19,674
28 Feb 2010 #56
My Grandma once made a joke that my wife was in it for the money too. We say in Scotland, 'many a true word spoken in jest'. Certain things in life you just have to brush off, like water off a duck's back.

What English folk must remember is that many uneducated buffoons went across and made a mockery of many things. I've had the great pleasure of meeting many educated Poles who cringe at the thought of those divvies representing their up-and-coming country. Those Poles see it clearly, perspicacious and conscientious folk worthy of the utmost respect. It's those people that I connect with the most, not some dumb kur*y in England. There are plenty sagacious minds here.
Roxanne
1 Jun 2011 #57
You must have lived in a different Poland than I did. They quite assuredly directed their contempt toward nationalities.

Who is 'they' exactly? The 38 million people living in Poland? Do we really think that all of us 'direct OUR contempt towards nationalities'? I tend to not tolerate people who generalize and create stereotypes. I don't really pay much attention to the citizenship of a person.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
1 Jun 2011 #58
It can be the anarchic side of those Poles coming out. Many don't want to work under those who they feel are not worthy. They will naturally rebel and express their dissatisfaction.
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
1 Jun 2011 #59
I've had the great pleasure of meeting many educated Poles who cringe at the thought of those divvies representing their up-and-coming country

Basically it's Poland B moving en masse to Britain B.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
1 Jun 2011 #60
It is and it's a crying shame that they are seen as ambassadors of their country. There are enough stroppy and sulky Poles to spoil it for many good folks here. Don't tar with the same brush.


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