What do Poles think of how they are treated in Germany, in comparison to the Muslim migrants

The "far right" here would jump on the Palestine bandwagon, light the fuse, jump off, and smile when it goes boom....

Then watch those 72 virgins giving blow jobs to the lucky guys.

Are you joking? Polish kebabs are basically just sh*tty beef and cabbage wraps. British kebabs use better bread (naan or pitta, not some cheap thin wrap), they contain more variety and better veg (raw onions, tomato, lettuce, etc, compared to merely your sh*tty surowka), and the use of lamb means they actually taste of something. I'll add that what passes for "hot" sauce in both Poland and Germany could be served to toddlers in countries that can actually handle heat and flavour.

Polish kebabs are even blander and worse than those served by the krauts. That's quite an achievement.

No, they're overwhelming flown by utter morons.

on the left.... please find examples of non-left non-muslims waving the pali flag

@mafketis
You clearly haven't been on 'X', formerly Twitter, much lately. There are plenty of people on the far-right superficially supportive of Palestine because they hate Israel, because they hate Jews. I saw one such recently who also happens to be an anti-vax flat-Earther who believes Europe is being purposefully allowed to be overrun by Middle Easterners and Africans, and native Europeans 'replaced', according to some 'Kalergi plan', which is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory loved by the far-right.

nitter.net/benwehrman < this lunatic. And he's not the only one.

They 'support' Hamas because they hate Jews, but then they also hate Muslims and don't want them in their 'white countries'. This guy also posted a Malcolm X quote attacking Jews, but at the same time he also hates black people. It must be hard keeping track of it all, but I guess when you reject basic science, it indicates being pretty comfortable with holding together a range of wildly illogical and contradictory beliefs.

The 21st-century right is a basket case.

....some links please?

Never heard of the Nordic Resistance Movement? archive.ph/uYmpX

....in Germany it had been always the radical Left embracing muslim/Pali/Hamas - terror!

Not for nothing Pali terrorists chose Munich for their Olympic massacre...they always had firm friends with the german RAF, training and educating them...

landshut77.de/en/background/left-wing-terrorism

adst.org/2015/03/targeted-by-germanys-red-army-faction/

In Germany only leftists would hang Pali flags into their windows and scream "Juden raus"!

I can't imagine that the AfD would invite Michel Friedman to their meeting. 🤔

Na ja....Michel Friedman has said he will pack his bags should the AfD come to power....looks like he canceled himself from any meeting?

Even as I think such a meeting would be interesting:


juedische-allgemeine.de/politik/die-israelische-demokratie-ist-eine-sehr-viel-vitalere-als-die-deutsche/

....it looks like many former progressive/left wing Jews are in a pickle right now.....the western Left is ready and willing to throw them under the Hamas-bus, but now its mainly the right wing movements likes "We stand with Israel" on X who truly support them....what to do...what to do?

I would pack my bags if I knew how I could help AfD.

....they will be glad to know....but honestly I doubt Friedman would truly leave if that time comes....he is not the youngest anymore...

This old line again, piously recited with characteristic Polish sanctimony. Poland certainly would have had if not for circumstances.

Brits, btw, never stole homes and possessions from holocaust victims while they were in the camps. Poles did, and that's why half the country is terrified 'the Jews' will come back and take what's rightfully theirs. Poles have a 'guilt' all of their own, which has manifested itself in being one of the most antisemitic countries in Europe - guilt doesn't really jive with Poland's messiah complex, which states that it is the most perfect and blameless of the nations - always the victim, never the villain.

Colonialism, btw, is why British multiculturalism has largely worked, unlike German and so on. Former empire peoples from the Caribbean, West Africa, India and so on have been a part of Britain for a long time, and cultural overlap has meant a functioning, harmonious society. They have been easily absorbed into British society in the former imperial core because they came from places that were once outposts of empire. In other European countries, foreigners can live there for generations and still never really be accepted - as evidenced by the Vietnamese and others in Poland, for instance, which will never really accept anyone unless they're a white Catholic Pole.

Coulda fooled me....

@mafketis
How many black and Asian people are prominent figures in UK politics, media, entertainment and so on, and how many Vietnamese in Poland?

Recent demonstrations in the UK are a reaction to recent economic woes and an influx of 'alien' peoples from Syria, etc. Poland, meanwhile, is supposedly 'on the up', has had next to no immigration in comparison, and still has a far-right march in the capital every year. Poland doesn't even have many Jews but yet still gives Grzegorz Braun over a million votes. Poles don't even need many foreigners in their country to be incredibly racist.

.....preferable actually!

I read recently a hijab muslima was swearing on the Quran as she was brought into a gov job...it seems the Brits are paying a damned high late price for their colonialism...no jealousy here!

@Bratwurst Boy

Not sure what you mean by that. You'd rather they swore insincerely on a religious book they don't believe in?

The idea of secularism seems alarming to certain Poles - not every country is a white Christian nationalist monoculture, I'm afraid. This is a good thing for the hundreds of thousands of Catholic Poles in Britain, btw, who would otherwise be shunned and cast out for not being Anglicans.

In America - the real far right - not whatever Democrats want to frame as the far right (but is in reality just moderate conservatism)... has become almost completely Pro-Palestinian.

That is, White Supremacists, or Nazis - in other terms - are now Pro-Palestinian.

Now, they never liked Jews to begin with, but in the post 9/11 world they had made some awkward alliance in opposition to the fanatical Islam.

Just like you BB, their frustrations about the "brownification" and "Islamization" of America, led them into an awkward alliance with Israel.

So then, what happened since October 7th, represents a true 180 in far right views.

It's not that Muslims are "up", it's just that Jews are "down".

I for sure wouldn't want to be governed by someone who sweares on the Quran in the first place....whats next? Ramadan-holiday? Halal-food? Hijabs for the school girls?
Official support for the Hamas terrorists?

oooopsie....

Not exactly role-model material anymore! Especially since muslim societies tend to be/to become very strict mono-cultures themselves!


Any links?


....I guess you can call the Holocaust "awkward"....

In case you have forgotten...

It hadn't been the western far right dancing on the streets, giving out free baklava to bypassers, as the first images about the murdered babies and destroyed bodies of raped women had been shown by the TV stations.

And I dunno about the US but in Germany it's the left taking to the streets along side their Pali friends, screaming "from the river to the see..." what would mean nothing else but the annihilation of Israel...no far rightist in sight!

....frankly I doubt that at all....which USian would ever forget 9/11....no one with any patriotic bone in his body, I very surely guess!

It's just something I feel, sitting here. But if you want links, here's one:

middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/far-right-activists-advocating-palestinians

Trump recently said: "My people are very angry with Israel." That's important. Because Trump himself doesn't believe in anything. He's not antisemitic, and he's not pro-Semitic. He honestly does not give a f*ck about the Jews. But what he cares about is how his "base" feels. And the base is angry.

One of the more prominent people who went on a serious "anti-Israel" bent, was Charlie Kirk - who got shot recently. Ditto Steve Bannon.

The "actual" Nazis of America, have been spending lots of ink discussing Hitler's positive views on Islam, and his plans for the Middle East.

I think Netanyahu inadvertently dialed the clock back to 1935 with his actions.

Interesting link Bobko....did you read it at all?


....not that this is an objective source with real facts in the first place!

Did you read it all, lol :)

Do you like Islam? Are you a leftie in hiding?

I don't like it. But I think it has a right to exist, just as Voodoo, and Rastafarianism, and Hinduism, and other -isms can exist.

I don't think the bad behavior of Muslims, is due to a some fundamental evil within their scripture. I think it has to do with demographics, historical accidents, and bedrock-level encoded behavior in tribal societies - which existed long before Muhammad made his first speech.

Many of my very good friends are Muslims - and they are very intelligent and very caring people.

I think your problem is you are importing the trash of Syria, Libya, Pakistan, etc. Trash is trash - anywhere in the world.

That and no actual police force at the time who were legally able to do anything. Just local Bavarian cops with no anti-terrorist training.


You read wrongly. There is no religious oath for civil servants. When police and army take their oath (or affirmation if they are not religious), it is not sworn on any book.

It has two forms (you can choose which) and the wording cannot be changed:

"I, [full name], do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."

Under the Oaths Act 1978, individuals may make a solemn affirmation instead of swearing a religious oath:

"I, [full name], do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and sucessors, according to law.."

People taking government jobs do not however do this. Only Members of Parliament, Members of the House of Lords, Judges and certain court officers, Members of the armed forces and Police Officers .

....of course....I wasn't born that way....in the GDR we were even groomed to support the PLO and their " freedom fight".

No...its totally a recent development, thanks to the **** we let into our Heimat...and frankly I don't see any way back....every attack...every rape...every murder by one of them here makes it worse!

I better take my leave now, not to sour the mood even more...'night all!

Isn't, every arrack, rape or murder by anyone a problem?

Yes, but when you have external attack, rape, or murder attached to your already indigenous rates - I feel it is fully normal for the population to ask questions. No?

Like, "Why exactly must we suffer this?"

And if you give them arguments about: "poor demographics", "structurally unbalanced budgets", and "declining labor productivity" - they are not very happy to receive them.

BB is a super nice guy, and he still says these things. This should be a warning sign to others.

Same same.


I suspect it is a big part of his life and has been for a while.