75 Years of Israel and the War - part 2

Simple. Kill as many as you can and make the damn place unlivable for the rest. They will go somewhere.
There are enough morons out there, including Biden, to take them. Problem solved. Pure genius...

@Ironside

I take umbrage with what you claim as obfuscation. I am not obfuscating. I may be unknowingly wrong in what I understand to be facts, and I'm open to correction, if given verifiable and sensible facts. You have not provided any and your retorts appear obfuscatory to me; so, I continue to hold my position.

From the Catholic perspective, we've had a long tradition of just war theory. We can legitimately argue whether Israel is conducting its war within those parameters. From what I understand about this war, I believe it is.


I have not heard anyone answer the basic premise of your question. The answer always strays off topic. So, Iron, I second BB's honest and serious question.

I admit; like flashy hyperbole but it doesn't change the fact that the logic you apply to the situation is absurd. I only presented an exaggerated example of your logic used to its ultimate conclusion.

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BB, it was the most secure border in the world not "penetrable" at all until one day out of the blue it wasn't.


Do not mix a state policy with revenge. That would be my advice. If that was about revenge I would think that more than 33, 000 civilians killed is more than enough or do you have a different number in mind?

Agreed! But it's hard....you as a Pole know it better than most, don't you!

Have to leave now....'night all :)

@Ironside

Now I'm severely perplexed. How did you demonstrate the absurdity of my logic?

And, you haven't answered the question BB presented. What should Israel do in response to Oct 7?

Night, beebs.

Indeed I like your approach you are a shameless immoral c'nt and have no problem with ethnic cleansing and war crimes against humanity. Good for you. At least you are not a wimpy hypocrite.

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Should a prudent man equip himself with veritable truthful facts before passing judgment in circumstances where civilians are being slaughtered left right and center? I'm not responsible for your low awareness of the facts about that part of the world.

From where do you get these numbers? It appears every media outlet that reports on numbers rely on the Palestinian Ministry of Health.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, you question the accuracy of the number of dead and wounded Israeli soldiers that come from Israeli gov, but fully accept what the Palestinian authority claims?

When a guy tells you that he wants to kill you, you don't ask why. You kill him.


Just as in the U war. What Z says is true. Always trust Z and never the other side.

100% correct.


100% wrong,
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I am never wrong. When you think I am wrong assume it is sarcasm.

No, I didn't. I said that I could question those numbers as your sources are biased but I don't and I (unlike you ) take your word for it. I fail to see what that number signifies in our discussion. It doesn't change a thing. That is what I said.

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Simple, you condone a logic in which to get one terrorist you are willing to kill 100 civilians. So why not a whole city? The logic behind it is the same.

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At least I can say that no Polish organization or state advocated or performed an operation that was aimed at killing all civilians indiscriminately including children. You as a German can't say the same, so I'm not surprised you are fine with the Israeli government policy. ( well BB it was you who first brought nationality into this debate).

I have already answered a similar question but can repeat it.
They should go into Gaza with a plan.
A. Withrow from the West Bank and let them set their government.
B. Allow all Gaza civilians to resettle into West Banks via Israeli vetting camps.
C, all those who stay in Gaza can be a legitimate target of the IDF.
Fair and logical and could work if properly implemented, would cost less than all those bombs and missiles they are using now to bomb civilians.

Aims to achieve - get rid of Hamas, acquire the Gaza Strip for Israel, and give Palestinians a land of their own where they can live.

I have a better plan: Put a dozen Gun-Free Zone signs in Gaza. That's how the US ended school massacres.

Or buy Hamas' guns the Australian way.

Why I really hate Europe...Quoting:

In France, government authorities are stepping in to draw the line. Courts have ruled that public speech condoning the Oct. 7 attack or legitimizing Hamas as a resistance movement amounts to condoning terrorism-a crime under French law, punishable by up to seven years in prison.

Go fvck yourself, you French mother fvckers...How many Americans had to die so that decades later you will be no better that the NAZIS and the USSR...

How about honoring those brave Americans and adopting their First Amendment? Too scary, morons?

Dear God, please let me be wrong just once before I see your son...

I don`t believe you.

Of course it is.

And for those who condemn Israeli Army's actions I have one piece of advice: go and live among palestinian arabs for a couple of months. You will start carrying ammunition for IDF yourselves.

Besides, you all have to realise that people that Israeli's were on October 6th 2023 do not exist any longer. They had their 9/11. They're a different nation now, they're different people.

עם ישראל חי

In a recent poll, 100% of Hamas and 70% of civilians said they would do 10/7 again.

Conclusion: Israel has the right to kill 100% of Hamas and 70% of civilians or about 1.5 million Gazans.

No further questions, your honor!

Israel negotiating with Hamas would be like the US negotiating with Japan on August 1, 1945.
It would be stupid. Really stupid...Just kill 'em...

Unbelievable!

Why do you engage emotionally in something that doesn't; concern Poland, especially after the Israeli state and its politics are F with Poland? Take a cold shower.

By the way no matter what they are they still need some land to live.
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Besides condoning genocide and ethnic cleansing is not something to be proud of.

Would you give Nazi-sympathetic Germans Breslau, Stettin and Danzig back?

There are 450 million Arabs. 2 million Gazans can join them.

Hey, I thought that was compensation for the war crimes against the Polish nation committed by the Germans. You said it so yourself. So I'm right that it means sh't lol!

Just lame excuses not to pay proper compensation now.
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Do those Germans have no land of their own? Are they homeless and Poland has the majority o their former lands? If that is the case I would give them some land to live on maybe Hamburg.

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There are billions of morons you can join them too.

So, you would not share your land with hostile foreigners who really really really hate you and your wife and kids???

BB your angle is too complex and you tangled yourself in it badly. Let's stick to facts, not hyperbole.

Do you realize that you can sue your argument to justify the destruction of the Israeli state?

I already did. They voted for Biden in 2020 and will vote for that POS again this year.

....these facts have reasons! Just saying....

(and I like my hyperboles:)

They closed Al Jazeera, not nice.