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The true causes of the current war between Russia and Ukraine


Paulina 16 | 4,356
27 Aug 2023 #121
Why, thank you!

Well, you didn't discover America with this observation, but it was spot on nevertheless :)

Russians can be realistic in assessments of themselves. Contrast this to Poles, who can only talk about themselves in romantic/heroic terms.

Oh, Bobko, I think it depends which RuSSians/Russians and which Poles you're talking to :)))
Novichok 4 | 7,826
27 Aug 2023 #122
Often when Poles go to RuSSia they are struck by this attitude.

Poles or stupid Polish bit*ches who still don't know the difference between Germans SS and Russians?
Paulina 16 | 4,356
28 Aug 2023 #123
stupid Polish bit*ches

I see that you're not only an amoral, hypocritical, ignorant moron, but also a lowlife :)
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
28 Aug 2023 #124
Oh Dear Paulina are you still having to deal with this crap after all these years .
jon357 74 | 22,000
28 Aug 2023 #125
this crap

It's summer. Possible that the mods are on holiday.

amoral, hypocritical, ignorant moron, but also a lowlife

That pretty well sums up anyone outside r*SSia who takes the r*SSian point of view, I see none of them rushing to live there, nor would they like r*SSia as a neighbour. Most don't speak a word of that language and couldn't tell the difference between it and Ukrainian if they heard both and few or none actually know any r*SSians or Ukrainians.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
28 Aug 2023 #126
@jon357
On Holiday or turning a blind eye to the worst possible racial abuse
jon357 74 | 22,000
28 Aug 2023 #127
Possible, though I think just on their jollies at the beach. That or busy elsewhere. There's been some pretty foul stuff over the past few days (like Katyń jokes) and normally they're good at removing stuff like that.

Nice to see you back, Dolno!
Paulina 16 | 4,356
28 Aug 2023 #128
(like Katyń jokes)

Yeah, I've reported it and no reaction from the mods.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
28 Aug 2023 #129
Nice to see you back,

Good to see you are well Jon , looks like the Racism Homophobia and antisemitism is still running rife here while the rest of the world has moved on , you and I didn't always see eye to eye but at least we kept a modicum of decency and respect. All of this seems lacking here now.
Novichok 4 | 7,826
28 Aug 2023 #130
we kept a modicum of decency and respect.

Hey, dolno, there is no decency when some a-holes try to connect the German SS with Russians today.
I told the SS morons here that I will get even for that RuSSia crap so it's their choice to stop or continue.

As far as you... You were not part of this Russia-hating sh*it so stay the hell away...

I see that you're not only an amoral, hypocritical, ignorant moron, but also a lowlife :)

You are that yourself. No, moron, Russians are not SS. They were victims of the German SS. Duh!
Novichok 4 | 7,826
28 Aug 2023 #131
while the rest of the world has moved on

Only in your bootlicking head. Go visit LA, SF, and NYC. Then London with 200 mosques...
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
28 Aug 2023 #132
As far as you.

A Russian is a member of my family so I am well acquainted with all things Russian, Do you live in Russia ?

Having lived and worked in the middle east I have never had problems with Mosques Salam brother.
Paulina 16 | 4,356
28 Aug 2023 #133
You are that yourself.

No, I am not, especially compared to you.

. No, moron, Russians are not SS.

I never claimed that they are.

They were victims of the German SS. Duh!

In the past, yes. They also helped Nazi Germany before they became the victims. Today's RuSSia and RuSSians, however, are the aggressors, the invaders, not the victims.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
28 Aug 2023 #134
London with 200 mosques...

Are you aware that there are eight Muslim Republics that are part of the Russian Federation . Thoughts ?
jon357 74 | 22,000
28 Aug 2023 #135
Then London with 200 mosques..

The entire ethnic minority population of the U.K. according to the last census is about 10%. Of that 10%, almost half live in Greater London and a few concentrated areas near particular industries, places of worship, shops etc. That figure includes Poles. You will find that despite your nasty, bitter, and patholgically sick whining about multiculturalism, the overwhelming bulk of the U.K. is actually less multicultural than that place you live in in Illinois.

They also helped Nazi Germany before they became the victims. Today's RuSSia and RuSSians, however, are the aggressors, the invaders, not the victims.

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pawian 222 | 24,343
28 Aug 2023 #137
a modicum of decency

No, you didn`t keep any decency. Quite the contrary, you were one of the nastiest and most spiteful rightists in the forum. That is why I have never missed you (which is quite an achievement coz one day I missed Ironside). hahahaha

All in all, fekk you and all rightists! :):):)
Novichok 4 | 7,826
28 Aug 2023 #138
Are you aware that there are eight Muslim Republics that are part of the Russian Federation .

KGB, FSB, and other such organs taught them to behave while in Russia proper. UK soft noodles are not even trying.
China has Muslims, too, Oh what a difference...I like that difference.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,869
28 Aug 2023 #139
Russians can be realistic in assessments of themselves.

They can.And this quote was said to be from Solzhenytsyn but I think it came from a Russian woman much earlier.

"We know they are lying.They know they are lying.We know they know that we know they are lying.But they are still lying.

Because they know we can't do anything about it"

That says it all about oppressive regimes but to be honest, this is also now happening in the supposed democratic west.....
Novichok 4 | 7,826
28 Aug 2023 #140
this is also now happening in the supposed democratic west.....

As I was reading your post, I was getting so pumped up .... and then this from you...I am so deflated...You left me with nothing but emptiness...
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
29 Aug 2023 #141
never missed

I Have missed you comrade commissar.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
29 Aug 2023 #142
looks like the Racism Homophobia and antisemitism is still running rife here

But these are exactly the sins you used to commit here when you visited the PF in the past, you little hypocrite!
amiga500 4 | 1,537
29 Aug 2023 #143
Worth repeating "Sługi za szlugi" youtube.com/watch?v=nCS48nKSeSs
pawian 222 | 24,343
30 Aug 2023 #144
I Have missed you comrade

:):):)
If that`s the case, then I have no choice but to retract my F words, apologise sincerely and request you to make yourself at home in the forum. Enjoy your stay and let our relations thrive like in the old days! :):):)
Atch 22 | 4,117
30 Aug 2023 #145
I have no choice but to retract my F words

Feck is not the F word, ya feckin' eejit so there's nothing to retract. And it's not spelled fekk either. Respect Hiberno-English! Respect yourself! Learn, live long and prosper!

Dolno!!!! Welcome back!!! :)

Yes indeed, welcome and thrice welcome! But I'm afraid he won't hang around for long. Also a big Witam to Ziemowit.
pawian 222 | 24,343
30 Aug 2023 #146
ya feckin' eejit Respect Hiberno-English! Respect yourself!

You are EXACTLY like Novi. You get furious when people reject education from the genius. :):):)

Sorry, tradition means a lot to me. I used fekk when you were still a little girl and didn`t know such a word existed. HA!
Korvinus 2 | 476
30 Aug 2023 #147
I will risk to say that Russians have a very realistic perception of the world

Yeah? So what about this argument "USA is only using Ukrainians"?

Assuming that this is truth, Ukrainians rather DIE than be absorbed into Russia.

Making an analogy, imagine that a guy kidnaps a woman, throw her into a basement for many years, keep abusing and starving her and after she finally breaks free, the same guy tries to kidnap her again and she decides to fight to the death to avoid being locked down in the basement again. IF someone arms her and teaches her self-defence, is this person "only using her to weaken the kidnapper"?
Atch 22 | 4,117
30 Aug 2023 #148
You get furious when people reject education from the genius. :):):)

The difference is, that unlike Novi, I actually know what I'm talking about. I speak with the authority of one who is properly informed so respect that authority and you will prevail. Ignore it at your peril ;)
Bobko 25 | 1,995
30 Aug 2023 #149
Ukrainians rather DIE than be absorbed into Russia.

Those guys were all made permanently a part of the past, during last year's battles.

Have you seen how mobilization happens in Ukraine now? No longer are there lines of volunteers, but instead recruiters are grabbing people on the street - often beating them violently before stuffing them into the party wagon.

Corruption around military recruitment centers was such, that Zelensky recently fired every single regional official in charge. People are paying their last monies, to avoid being sent to fight.

When you say Ukrainians would rather die, than join Russia - it's simply not true. As I said, the zealots (or as banderists call them - "the flower of our youth") - have already been fed into the meat grinder.

It's been this way in all past conflicts between us and Ukrainians. Once you remove the hardcore idiots, the rest don't care to fight.
pawian 222 | 24,343
30 Aug 2023 #150
I speak with the authority of one who is properly informed

Yes, which still doesn`t prevent you from seeing red when sb ignores it. :):):)

Listen to my motto! Tradition!!!! that`s how I keep my balance of nature. hahahaha

youtu.be/gRdfX7ut8gw


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